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Hey guys, do you think maybe people should be sending in suggestions for new heroes to appear in Dial H like they used to?
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More cancellation rumours.One of the very rare books with an old woman and a fat man as the heroes. If it's cancelled, I'll be very sad to see it go. Mieville has done a good job of developing these two characters as everything around them changes, including their own superhero personae.
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Agreed, this has been a great story with unconventional leads you can relate to and an interesting narrative. Plus, they're in Canada, and it's not one big joke after another.
I will be sad if it's on the block.
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I'm actually thinking of buying an eBay lot of this because it sounds so quirky and indie. Plus, those Bolland covers are exquisite!
Can anyone push me over the edge here? Cobie, did you try this out like you said you planned to earlier in this thread?
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I thought #1 was "okay" but never followed up. Admittingly, I was feeling pretty "no more DC unless I'm knocked off my chair" at the time.
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I'll give you that push. It's creepy and it's kooky - great characters, great use of the H-Dial concept, very interesting "deep mystery" plot.
I'm seriously hooked.
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Push! Push! Push! It's not like other DC books, and, until the Flash appeared (I haven't read that issue yet), had no connection to other DC characters. I think it's gotten stronger as it's progressed. Mieville is developing a complicated secret history for the Dial itself.
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It's developing a nice deep mythology and the characters are unlike anything DC's had in a protagonist role in a long time (if ever). My only criticism is they are definitely playing the long game on the plot, which tends to mean you have to refresh yourself on what's happening every few months, but I imagine in one sitting this wouldn't be an issue.
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Okay, guys....I just received an eBay lot of Dial H issues 0-9. Those 10 issues only cost me $8.95 + $3.75 S&H! Whether I love it or hate it, $12.70 ain't a bad price to pay for 10 books with EXQUISITE Brian Bolland covers!!!
I'll let y'all know what I think!
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I really liked the Flash issue. It was great to see Nelson simultaneously freaking out about his night with Roxie and coping with controlling Flash's speed. I also liked how the ramifications finally hit them about how the dial works. And finally, the Centipede/Fixer combo looks like they'll be a step up form the Ex Nihil/Abyss duo. Hope this book continues it's upward trajectory from here.
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Four issues in....liking it a LOT! It's really too bad that such an entertaining book is being wasted on the DCnUCoke. With some tweaks I can see how this could have been the latest critical and commercial success over at Image. Yep, at DC it's doomed to be cancelled before the year is out, I'm sure, but I will enjoy the ride and appreciate its place among many cancelled series I forever hold in high esteem if this quality continues throughout.
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BTW, I've already told my comic book guy to order/backorder issues 10 and up for me!
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Glad you like it Paladin!
I was pleasantly surprised by the Flash issue, very creative, not your standard crossover at all. Miéville makes the dial so interesting, exploring not only its hidden history but how it actually works and what consequences may follow.
The notion of an S-Dial opens up a lot of territory, how it makes one feel and behave relative to the H-Dial.
The Nelson-Roxie relationship is so real - regrets, anger, annoyance combined with fundamental trust, caring and reliance.
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I would've been so all over this series if I still bought DC Comics.
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P.S. I'm sure most people are already aware of this but Abyss and Squid appeared in the old Adventure Comics run of Dial H.
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Abyss_(New_Earth)
I love it when writers reinvigorate obscure old characters.
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Oh no, I heard about that last year.
They fought Chris King and Vicki Grant.
Also, that horribly racist Dial hero, Chief Mighty Arrow? Robby Reed dialed him during the Silver Age.
And Mieville made a sly dig at Alan Moore in #6 with "Golliwog."
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I would've been so all over this series if I still bought DC Comics. As a general rule, I don't 'buy DC Comics' either, Blacula. I 'buy' comics that I think are worth getting. Dial H makes four DCnU comics I'm currently getting (or in one case--the LSH--just haven't had the heart to drop yet). I'm also currently getting Batman and Detective. None of those three have guarantees I'll continue buying them. Dial H is possibly the most non-DCnU DCnU book I've seen so far. It has its own unique creative and quirky flavor to it like Secret Six had. It doesn't feel editorially-butchered like so many of the books are infamous for being. It sounds like even the Flash appearance, which I would assume has been the most editorially-driven thing to happen in this series, was well-received. Most of all, it's not the same old stale stuff that DC's been manufacturing lately. If this is part of a personal boycott of DC, Blacula, then buy issues or collections of Dial H on the secondary market where DC won't see a dime. If it's something you think you'd enjoy, go that route!
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I'm curious to read the Flash issue, btw. I'm wondering if the Flash himself appears as well or if it's just Nelse taking his form.
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I'm curious to read the Flash issue, btw. I'm wondering if the Flash himself appears as well or if it's just Nelse taking his form. Do you want spoilers? Dial H is possibly the most non-DCnU DCnU book I've seen so far. It has its own unique creative and quirky flavor to it like Secret Six had. It doesn't feel editorially-butchered like so many of the books are infamous for being. I was wondering if China Miéville's contract limited editorial interference or had something like no participation in DCnU events. Seems unlikely, given how they've dealt with other creators.
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No spoilers necessary, Cramey. I'll have the book for myself soon enough! As for the perceived lack of editorial interference, specifically how isolated the book seems, I'm pretty sure I heard that Dial H was originally supposed to be a Vertigo book before it got co-opted into the DCnU. Like, to the extent, that most of the early issues were written and planned out before that decision was made. I think with that factor, plus the likelihood that it wouldn't last long being obvious out of the gate, helped Dial H be what it is. Or I could be totally wrong! 
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I would've been so all over this series if I still bought DC Comics. As a general rule, I don't 'buy DC Comics' either, Blacula. I 'buy' comics that I think are worth getting. Dial H makes four DCnU comics I'm currently getting (or in one case--the LSH--just haven't had the heart to drop yet). I'm also currently getting Batman and Detective. None of those three have guarantees I'll continue buying them. Dial H is possibly the most non-DCnU DCnU book I've seen so far. It has its own unique creative and quirky flavor to it like Secret Six had. It doesn't feel editorially-butchered like so many of the books are infamous for being. It sounds like even the Flash appearance, which I would assume has been the most editorially-driven thing to happen in this series, was well-received. Most of all, it's not the same old stale stuff that DC's been manufacturing lately. If this is part of a personal boycott of DC, Blacula, then buy issues or collections of Dial H on the secondary market where DC won't see a dime. If it's something you think you'd enjoy, go that route! Thanks Paladin but I think my disappointment in DC is such that I couldn't even buy Dial H in back-issues at the moment. I can't even bring myself to buy any of Morrison's DCnU Batman Inc. run despite it being the third and final chapter of one of my favorite Batman stories ever. I think a lot of time will have to pass before I can buy any DC comics post 2011.
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Not even for Open-Window Man?
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You know what's funny, yet really sucks at the same time? I betcha anything that if China Miéville had put a very slightly different spin on her concept for this book, omitted any cosmetic similarities to the "Dial H for Hero" DC property and then pitched the series to Image instead that this would be the latest in a string of Image red-hot launches instead of a book doomed to obscurity and imminent cancellation!
This book is as good as any of those launches and better than quite a few of them! It pisses me off royally that such a great book is so criminally overlooked because it's stuck in a mainstream line where anything unrelated to Batman, Superman, Justice League or GL has virtually NO chance of succeeding!
By quality alone, Dial H should be a top-tier seller. It's sad, really.
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