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Re: The actual 52: THE LIST
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Yeah...Marvel has pretty much dragged the #1 thing to the edge of the cliff kicking and screaming, and DC is about to join in and push it over the edge.


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I'm surprised DC has never listed a comic called Bizarro #1.

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Hopefully, they'd be smart enough to make it Bizarro #-1!

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Yeah...Marvel has pretty much dragged the #1 thing to the edge of the cliff kicking and screaming, and DC is about to join in and push it over the edge.
You're not kidding. Captain America has about 5 #1's and all of them except one are probably worth about as much as a snickers bar.

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I'm surprised DC has never listed a comic called Bizarro #1.
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As if on cue to answer Double Chinner's question in the other thread, Blue Beetle is announced.

Also announced is Suicide Squad.

Looks like Adventure is out, Batman Beyond is not included in the 52 and JSA is out? Secret Six also done since Deadshot is in SS.

Unless Action is also delayed because of Grant Morrison...

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Batman & Robin will feature Damien as Robin. No word on Tim Drake.

Ugh. If Damien is Robin and Tim Drake is written out, that will infuriate me. Moreso than anything else that DC could do.
Since I haven't seen you comment, I'm curious what you now think of the news that Tim exists... but has apparently been ripped out of Bat-history to be introduced as a newbie in Teen Titans . (Also, Cassie as "belligerent thief"? Huh?)

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Watchmen – this is entirely unsubstantiated, just heresy thus far.
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Must be! laugh

As for Tim and Titans, I think it's terrible. Ridiculously awful and possibly the worst part of all of this. The Titans premise really looks like crap.

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Hearsay about the heresy is what I say.


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Via Nicholas Corrin over on facebook, here's the alphabetized list as of now:


All-Star Western (Justin Gray, Jimmy Palmiotti & Moritat)

Animal Man (Jeff Lemire, Travel Foreman & Dan Green)

Aquaman (Geoff Johns & Ivan Reis)



Batgirl (Gail Simone, Ardian Syaf & Vicente Cifuentes)

Batman (Scott Snyder & Greg Capullo)

Batman & Robin (Peter Tomasi & Patrick Gleason)

Batman: The Dark Knight (David Finch)

Batwoman (J.H. Williams III, Haden Blackman & Amy Reeder)

Batwing (Judd Winick & Ben Oliver)

Birds of Prey (Duane Swierczynski & Jesus Saiz)

Blackhawks (Mike Costa & Ken Lashley)

Blue Beetle (Tony Bedard, Ig Guara & Ruy Jose)



Captain Atom (JT Krul & Freddie Williams II)

Catwoman (Judd Winick & Guillem March)



DC Universe Presents (Various/Anthology Series)

Deathstroke (Kyle Higgins, Joe Bennett & Art Thibert)

Demon Knights (Paul Cornell, Diogenes Neves & Oclair Albert)

Detective Comics (Tony Daniel)



The Flash (Francis Manupul & Brian Buccellato)

Frankenstein, Agent of Shade (Jeff Lemire & Alberto Ponticelli)



Green Arrow (JT Krul & Dan Jurgens)

Green Lantern (Geoff Johns, Doug Mahnke & Cristian Alamy)

Green Lantern Corps (Peter Tomasi, Fernando Pasarin & Scott Hanna)

Green Lantern: The New Guardians (Tony Bedard & Tyler Kirkham)

Grifter (Nathan Edmondson, CAFU & BIT)



The Fury of Firestorm (Ethan Van Sciver, Gail Simone & Yildray Cinar)



Hawk and Dove (Sterling Gates & Rob Liefeld)



I, Vampire (Josh Fialkov & Andrea Sorrentino)



Justice League (Geoff Johns & Jim Lee)

Justice League Dark (Peter Milligan & Mikel Janin)

Justice League International (Dan Jurgens & Aaron Lopresti)



Legion Lost (Fabian Nicieza & Pete Woods)

Legion of Superheroes (Paul Levitz & Francis Portela)



Mister Terrific (Eric Wallace & Roger Robinson)



Nightwing (Kyle Higgins & Eddy Barrows)



OMAC (Dan Didio, Keith Giffen & Scott Koblish)



Red Hood & The Outlaws (Scott Lobdell & Kenneth Rocafort)

Red Lanterns (Peter Milligan & Ed Benes)

Resurrection Man (Dan Abnett, Andy Lanning & Fernando Dagnino)



The Savage Hawkman (Tony Daniel & Philip Tan)

Sgt. Rock and the Men of War (Ivan Brandon & Tom Derenick)

Static Shock (John Rozum, Scott McDaniel & Jonathan Glapion)

Stormwatch (Paul Cornell & Miguel Sepulveda)

Suicide Squad (Adam Glass & Marco Rudy)

Swamp Thing (Scott Snyder & Yanick Paquette)



Teen Titans (Scott Lobdell, Brett Booth & Norm Rapmund)



Voodoo (Ron Marz & Sami Basri)



Wonder Woman (Brian Azzarello & Cliff Chiang)


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It's good to see that Yildray is still out there (on Fury of Firestorm). I may not love the Frank-designed costumes he got stuck with, but his art has been cool.


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So the JSA may not be published any more, but we will have All-Star Western. It's like 1951 all over again! wink


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I realize a big shock is no Superman / Batman! Perhaps the biggest dropped ball of them all, as it should easily be the #1 comic every month.

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Not likely to pick up the new Suicide Squad book. It's a shame because I really have been jonesing for one since the Secret Six/Suicide Squad team-up last year. I'd be totally onboard if John Ostrander or Gail Simone were writing. Instead we get this Adam Glass whom I've never heard of.

The real deal-breaker, though, is that the book features....Harley Quinn?!? REALLY?!?! I LOVED Harley on the old Batman animated series, but, IMO, she's translated very poorly into the DCU. And putting her in the Suicide Squad seems like the worst fit yet. Punch and Jewelee fit in just fine, but Harley is a different matter, I feel. Even with an unknown writer, I would've given it a chance if the lineup was appealing. While having Deadshot aboard is a plus, I'd rather see him with Bronze Tiger, Boomerbutt and some of the other standards.

Too bad.


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I'll get the first few issues of Squad at least, just to give it a chance. I liked Secret Six well enough, but I really didn't think Deadshot ever fit well enough there (his best issues were Ostrander penned). I also doubt it will be just a three person squad, so the rest of the cast may surprise. We'll see.

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The books I think I am going to be buying... using my strict 1, 2, 3 policy I expect it to get several cuts in October...


All-Star Western (Justin Gray, Jimmy Palmiotti & Moritat)

Animal Man (Jeff Lemire, Travel Foreman & Dan Green)

Aquaman (Geoff Johns & Ivan Reis)



Batgirl (Gail Simone, Ardian Syaf & Vicente Cifuentes)


Birds of Prey (Duane Swierczynski & Jesus Saiz)







DC Universe Presents (Various/Anthology Series)


Frankenstein, Agent of Shade (Jeff Lemire & Alberto Ponticelli)






The Fury of Firestorm (Ethan Van Sciver, Gail Simone & Yildray Cinar)



Hawk and Dove (Sterling Gates & Rob Liefeld)



I, Vampire (Josh Fialkov & Andrea Sorrentino)



Justice League (Geoff Johns & Jim Lee)

Justice League Dark (Peter Milligan & Mikel Janin)

Justice League International (Dan Jurgens & Aaron Lopresti)



Legion Lost (Fabian Nicieza & Pete Woods)

Legion of Superheroes (Paul Levitz & Francis Portela)



Mister Terrific (Eric Wallace & Roger Robinson)






OMAC (Dan Didio, Keith Giffen & Scott Koblish)



Red Hood & The Outlaws (Scott Lobdell & Kenneth Rocafort)


Resurrection Man (Dan Abnett, Andy Lanning & Fernando Dagnino)



The Savage Hawkman (Tony Daniel & Philip Tan)


Stormwatch (Paul Cornell & Miguel Sepulveda)

Suicide Squad (Adam Glass & Marco Rudy)

Swamp Thing (Scott Snyder & Yanick Paquette)



Teen Titans (Scott Lobdell, Brett Booth & Norm Rapmund)




And likely Superboy and Supergirl when they are officially announced.


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I agree with Lardy about Harley Quinn in the comics. The way she's been written has been way too Mary Sue-ish, as if she's sacrosanct and can't be shown for an instant as anything but the coolest character that ever lived. Which means I want someone to beat the living crap out of her (c'mon Huntress!).

I'm really on the fence about Suicide Squad. I love the Squad and everything about the premise and history of the title but the preview didn't really excite me all that much.

I'm also unsure about Blue Beetle. I bought Jamie's first entire series and liked it well enough; but at the end of the day, he's still the most second-rate of all Blue Beetles from what we've seen so far. The one plus is Tony Bedard who might be able to change that finally. But I'm giving it the Lash 1,2,3 rule: one issue to hook me and the second issue better keep me around or its dropped.

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I think I will try ACTION and SUPERMAN as well. Why not?


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I agree with Lardy about Harley Quinn in the comics. The way she's been written has been way too Mary Sue-ish, as if she's sacrosanct and can't be shown for an instant as anything but the coolest character that ever lived. Which means I want someone to beat the living crap out of her (c'mon Huntress!).
Huntress? If anybody should get to knock Haryley around, it should be Molly Mayne-Scott. And then make her a sidekick to the *original* Harlequin.

But that ain't gonna be happening, since a line in the solicit for the new ACTION COMICS states: "This momentous first issue will set in motion the history of the DC Universe as Superman defends a world that doesn’t trust their first Super Hero."

Bye-bye JSA and all characters derived from it. No Obsidian or Jade. No Sand or Atom-Smasher. No Hourman or Dr. Midnight. No Crimson Avenger.

Unless they all have operated in secret since WWII?

Perhaps ACTION takes place on a different Earth-- as indeed I've read the supposition that all the 52 titles take place on a different of the 52 Earths.

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I don't know, from interviews it looks like it's all one Earth, one history, one status quo.

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My List:

- JLA
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- Green Lantern
- Green Lantern Corps
- Legion of Super-Heroes
- Legion Lost
- Batwoman

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Edited this into the first post there, but here's the list of titles by-week (also numbered by how many there are per-week. The 21st is the "light" week at "only" 11 titles.).

August 31
  1. Justice League #1 (Geoff Johns/Jim Lee)


September 7
  1. Justice League International #1 (Dan Jurgens/Aaron Lopresti)
  2. Green Arrow #1 (J.T. Krul/Dan Jurgens)
  3. Action Comics #1 (Grant Morrison/Rags Morales)
  4. Detective Comics #1 (Tony Daniel)
  5. Batwing #1 (Judd Winick/Ben Oliver)
  6. Batgirl #1 (Gail Simone/Ardian Syaf)
  7. Swamp Thing #1 (Scott Synder/Yanick Paquette)
  8. Animal Man #1 (Jeff Lemire/Travel Foreman)
  9. Stormwatch #1 (Paul Cornell/Miguel Sepulveda)
  10. OMAC #1 (Dan Didio/Keith Giffen)
  11. Men of War #1 (Ivan Brandon/Tom Derenick)
  12. Static Shock #1 (Scott McDaniel/John Rozum)
  13. Hawk & Dove #1 (Sterling Gates/Rob Liefeld)


September 14
  1. Wonder Woman #1 (Brian Azzarello/Cliff Chiang)
  2. Mr. Terrific #1 (Eric Wallace/Roger Robinson)
  3. Superboy #1 (Scott Lobdell/R.B. Silva)
  4. Batman & Robin #1 (Peter Tomasi/Patrick Gleason)
  5. Batwoman #1 (J.H. Williams III/W. Haden Blackman)
  6. Green Lantern #1 (Geoff Johns/Doug Mahnke)
  7. Red Lanterns #1 (Peter Milligan/Ed Benes)
  8. Frankenstein: Agent of SHADE #1 (Jeff Lemire/Alberto Ponticelli)
  9. Resurrection Man #1 (DnA/Fernand Dagnino)
  10. Demon Knights #1 (Paul Cornell/Diogenes Neves)
  11. Grifter #1 (Nathan Edmondson/Cafu)
  12. Deathstroke #1 (Kyle Higgins/Joe Bennett)
  13. Suicide Squad #1 (Adam Glass/Marco Rudy)
  14. Legion Lost v2 #1 (Fabian Nicieza/Pete Woods)


September 21
  1. Captain Atom #1 (J.T. Krul/Freddie Williams)
  2. DC Universe Presents #1 (Deadman arc; Paul Jenkins/Bernard Chang)
  3. Supergirl #1 (Michael Green/Mike Johnson/Mahmud Asrar)
  4. Batman #1 (Scott Synder/Greg Capullo)
  5. Nightwing #1 (Kyle Higgins/Eddy Barrows)
  6. Catwoman #1 (Judd Winick/Guillem March)
  7. Birds of Prey #1 (Duane Swierczynski/Jesus Saiz)
  8. Red Hood & the Outlaws #1 (Scott Lobdell/Kenneth Rocafort)
  9. Green Lantern Corps #1 (Pete Tomasi/Fernando Pasarin)
  10. Blue Beetle #1 (Tony Bedard/Ig Guara)
  11. Legion of Super Heroes v7 #1 (Paul Levitz/Francis Portela)


September 28
  1. Aquaman #1 (Geoff Johns/Ivan Reis)
  2. Flash #1 (Francis Manapul/Brian Buccellato)
  3. Fury of Firestorm #1 (Ethan van Sciever/Gail Simone/Yildiray Cinar)
  4. Savage Hawkman #1 (Tony Daniel/Philip Tan)
  5. Superman #1 (George Pérez/Jesus Merino)
  6. Batman: Dark Knight #1 (David Finch)
  7. Green Lantern: New Guardians #1 (Tony Bedard/Tyler Kirkham)
  8. Justice League Dark #1 (Peter Milligan/Mikel Janin)
  9. I, Vampire #1 (Joshua Hale Fialkov/Andrea Sorrentino)
  10. Voodoo #1 (Ron Marz/Sami Basri)
  11. Blackhawks #1 (Mike Costa/Ken Lashley)
  12. All-Star Western #1 (Justin Gray/Jimmy Palmiotti/Moritat)
  13. Teen Titans #1 (Scott Lobdell/Brett Booth)


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Thanks for posting the breakdown. Only have one heavy week with this stuff. Most of them are 4 or less issues.


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I'm curious how many people pick up Batgirl and whether it's A matter of "give it a chance" vs "hell no, screw them for devolving Barbara from Oracle".

Plus, with more than 10 Bat-titles (including Batwoman), Babs comic has to compete with others since it's unlikely someone is going to buy them all. (Which is why Winnick's Bat-Wing isn't even in consideration for me). Is there still enough there to make her as interesting as Bruce and Dick?

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