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What's been happening in "NXM"??

To answer Drake's question (Hey, I'm a New Mutant nut):

Rahne returned to the mansion after taking some time off from the mutant life with Moira's death and the loss of her powers. She's left behind some of her timid roots and has become more outgoing and more partial to leather and tank tops than plaid skirts and sweaters, all as her way of trying to find the "lost wolf" inside. Even with her powers back, she's kept with the more outgoing person she's become.

The biggest change though (the one SoM is noting) was that she lost her accent, explaining she had been in the States far too long. This was all followed up on in at the end of the New Mutants v2 series (#9 - on) and continues in New X-Men. It's a little jolting to have it back in MadroX, but I'm just glad to see Rahne get some use.

Loved the first issue, but haven't seen the second one anywhere yet. Glad to see Guido out and about too, even if he has been thrown into every part of the galaxy the past seven years as writers bring him in as a supporting cast member. Nice that they at least mentioned he left Lila, who I can only presume is doing the small-time club touring we saw in X-Treme X-Men.

I can relate. I loved seeing Adam Warlock in the last two issues of SHE-HULK, but a)he was depicted in his classic 70's outfit and b) was shown dying and "cocooning" to be reborn again, when most recently in Infinity Abyss, Marvel:The End and the Starlin THANOS issues, he was updated visually and could no longer be reborn-- next death's the last! --like that matters at Marvel... :rolleyes:

I'm greatly enjoying this 5 parter, and wouldn't mind seeing more MadroX mini-series down the road. I don't think it warrants an ongoing, it feels more refreshing in this format. It's like when you go visit old friends. Great for the first few days, but then you've worn out your welcome!

This is the way I remember Guido and Rahne (thank goodness I haven't been buying all the "X"-books for the past few years!!!), so I'll just pretend the other stuff doesn't exist (ignorance is bliss!)...

Yeah. Just read New Mutants 7-13 and NXM: Academy X #1-6. Even though there's some bad art on a few issues by Khary Ranolph (sp?), you still won't regret it

Nah - that was Starlin's "dead is dead from now on" from The End's universal reboot.

Which Captain Marvel undid straight away with it's universal reboot (Technically, the CM story was published 5 months earlier, in CM6 (The End 6 was published the same month as CM11). But since Genis was in the red'n'blue in The End, that has to have been earlier. Besides, that the Dead means Dead rule had been wiped wasn't confirmed in CM until CM18, which was definately after )

And Warlock & Kismet don't die when they cocoon anyway - they cocoon before they die. Warlock's only actually died once (in Avengers Annual #7).

And as for his look - Bobillo doesn't even try to draw the right looks. His Spidey had a weird cross between the Ben Reilly and "classic" suits, and as for his Thing

Another great issue, although it might get annoying if any more Madri die in the course of the series. I hope Rahne & Guido get more panel-time next issue.

Agreed, ActorLad. I think the Madri need to be treated with a little more respect! But Jamie did seem to really feel it when that last one died.

Look at it this way - at least if some Madri die, it doesn't reduce the number of Madri there can be, unlike Lu.

Oh yeah, btw it bothered me when the assassin guy threw that other guy off the Empire State Building. There's almost no way he could've done that without people noticing. But that's a minor quibble I guess... (and thanks for the NXM update)

Madrox #3 [SPOILERS]

"Everything okay? Why aren't you letting me out?"
"What's the point in letting you out? What's the point of anything?"
"Aw Lord."

Buy it.

I did but I haven't read it yet. Half of me wishes this was an ongoing, but the other half knows what happens when PAD stays on a book too long.

I'm loving this series.

Normally I stay away from the Marvel Universe as I somehow fixated on the DCU at an early age (thanks to a box of old Silver Age Superman comics an elderly neighbour let me read), but in recent times I've wandered into the Ultimate Marvel Universe (following Millar, mostly). So the rare times I delve into the regular Marvel U I view with trepidation of sorts, like the MU is some kind of murky pool wherein may be found all sorts of spiky, gooey and ugly things... and the occasional gem.

I view Madrox as one of those gems. I knew nothing about the character apart from the basics, and I honestly thought the character seemed rather stupid from what little I knew of him. But when I learned that his duplicates had a bit more stability and longevity than I imagined, and that PAD planned to cast Madrox and some other 'fringe' characters in a film noir setting, I thought I'd give it a try.

The writing is typical PAD, and since I choose my PAD carefully, I've managed to be quite happy with his work. I liked YJ and what I read of Supergirl (mostly crossover stuff), and I like his insightful dialogue, use of metatexual elements and intriguing interpersonal interplay. The concepts that PAD is playing with are intruiging as well - the fragmented personalities of the dupes I found to be fascinating, and rather than being annoying, I found the deaths of dupes to be an interesting character point. If Madrox continues to release dupes off like fire & forget missiles and the plot is revealled in thus fashion, I won't be disappaointed, and would find it quite appropriate.

I haven't gotten issue #3 yet (we get comics a few days later in OZ and I missed getting to my CBS this Friday), but am interested to see how things develop.

One thing about duplicating heroes like Madrox and Triad is the question of their clothes and objects that are duplicated as well. I mention this because it seemed "wrong" to me that he would've duplicated the handcuffs as well. I'm willing to take for granted that clothes get duped, but if he can dupe cuffs, could he put on a gold chain, dupe himself over and over then take off the gold and be rich? Do objects have a limited shelf life? Would they disappear the second he reabsorbed the dupe even if he wasn't wearing it anymore?

Anyhow, the last page revelation was interesting and unexpected but makes sense considering how his dupes have been acting. It'd make sense some of Jamie's darker aspects would be villainous.

Well, he's been wearing a necklace-thing the whole mini. And why should his power treat handcuffs differently from a T-Shirt anyway?

Does that mean he could stuff his pockets full of cash, duplicate a few time, empty them all into a big pile, reabsorb, and repeat? (Of course, they'd all have the same serial numbers, I suppose...)

Just finished the latest issue and I really liked it - this series continues to entertain in wonderful ways. The fractured personalities of the dupes make for excellent scenes, and the glimpses we see of Wolfsbane & Strong Guy could be seen as changes of scene for pacings sake, but are as exciting and fun as the 'main story'.

The last page made me wonder why I'd not considered this possibility all along, given the disparate personalities shown by some of the dupes. But can't Jamie reabsorb any dupes?

And... which one is the dupe?

Do the dupes have the ability to make more dupes or just the original? If so, would those dupes be like "copies of copies" and be even less emotionally stable?

Dupes can make more dupes, at least they've done so in the past. The Jamie in Fallen Angels believed himself to be the real Jamie and made dupes. And wasn't there a dupe in X-Factor who ended up dying? I think that one could make more dupes. This is one of the reasons why it's difficult to tell a dupe from the original - if "original" even means anything to someone like Jamie.

Like the slow descent of the dupes in 'Multiplicity'?

Paul O'Brien's review: http://thexaxis.com/minis/madrox3.htm

But if you can't be bothered reading the whole thing, the sum-up is:

I'll have to give a "ditto" to Paul's review.

Haven't got issue #4 yet, but it's out, so

********SPOILERS for #4************

Poor Steve Buscemi, I mean whateverhisname was. It's practically par for the course that the "dame" betrays the gumshoe, but she appears to have a disturbing mutation/means of attack (too bad we couldn't see it "full frontal").

I was a tad disappointed that the "evil" dupe had just been created - it seemed to me like he had been there awhile. I'm still not sure how plausible it is that he was able to convince the bad guy that he was on his side so quickly.

The new enhancement to Jamie's powers is interesting and makes him a bit more formidable - it's also a disturbing visual. Good to know that his "life lessons" pay off in interesting ways. I can see this being an ongoing if David keeps using Madrox in such interesting ways.

The Rahne subplot just seems tacked on at the moment - I hope it ties in somehow. I wouldn't mind it in a series but in a mini, it seems like fat that could've been trimmed.

Haven't read #4 yet, but I have to say I'm loving this series. I came on late, but read 1-3 the other night and really enjoyed them. B/t this and Fallen Angel, it looks like PAD is getting back to his writing best. This is the most likeable I've ever seen the Madrox character.

And since I saw mention of New X-Men Academy, let me reiterate: BUY IT! It's one of Marvel's best books right now!

Madrox is such a great series! Imaginative uses of Jamie's powers, perfect comic noir tone, five thumbs up. Buy it, everyone, buy it!

for the release of the MADROX: Multiple Choice TPB.