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Did anyone else get this? It was a great first issue. Man did a lot of stuff happened!
<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text"> The new force of July is called Freedom Rings. Monolith is in the issue. We get a new Firebrand. We meet Father Time and the begining of the new Freedom Force. And we get the retun of the Atomic Knights? Now that came out of left field for me.</span></span>
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Wow. See, I thought it was pretty but...
I understood nothing. Seriously. Like, whoa. No idea who anybody was except <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">the Teen Titan/Doom Patrol cameo</span></span> and that wasn't even set OYL!!
So confused. Brain hurts.
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It was all setup Cali, all set up a a new batch of legacy heroes in <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text"> Firebrand and the Freedom Fighters and a new interpertation of the Atomic Knights who haven't been around in ages. In fact the only time i have ever seen the Atomic Knights was in the orginal Who's Who entry when they were a future police force.</span></span>
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actually the last time we saw A**** K***** was in Outsiders series.
Freedom Rings do not mean anything that related to gay freedom?
anyway, can't wait to pick it up soon.
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This series totally lost all interest for me once I learned that the Ray in the Freedom Fighters miniseries to follow isn't Ray Terrill at all - if you can believe Dan Didio.
I'll get the next issue to see how it goes, but I'm not sold on this one at all.
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I'm also pissed that Ray Terrill isn't the Ray.
But Father Time? That's pretty cool! I've only just learned the extent of the Quality cadre of characters, so I wonder what other concepts might be revived.
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Guys, you forgot this:
<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">We see the new Human Bomb as a result of government testing and the radiation from the Chemo Drop.</span></span>
And it was great to see the new heroes, specifically, F*********. Always was a fave but I wished they had kept aspects of the original costume.
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I finally just read this and I think its really pretty cool! There's a lot going on and different concepts being shown all over.
So we've got Firebrand/Monolith/protesters outside the walls, villains breaking into Bludhaven, the Force of July (suddenly can't remember their new name) patrolling the streets, heroes attempting to help, Father Time arriving to take control of the military operation, radioactive citizens of Bludhaven about to become the new Freedom Force, the [new] Atomic Knights appearing...I feel like I'm out of breath!
Re: the Force of July people. Are they all new? Also, did it look like all but Major Victory were dead by the end of this issue?
Graypal kicked ass on this issue and you could just feel Grant Morrison's hand on this in the background. Very cool.
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I liked this issue quite a bit. Firebrand and the Atomic Knights were pleasant surprises. I'm not too upset about The Ray substitute yet-- let's see whether what happens in IC #7 changes that.
I kind of think that when Uncle Sam shows, he'll be tailoring the group more to his liking. Or he'll lead a group that opposes it. I'm betting Ray Terrill will be included. Eventually.
Wonder if an Atomic Knight or two will be in the new Freedom Fighters? Or whoever's left breathing from Freedom's Ring?
So, Father Time *is* an old Quality or DC character, then? I couldn't find anything in a brief search. If so, coolio-- a nice continuation of what the writers did in HAWKMAN with the GA Hawk-villains (though I still wish they'd included that centaur that lived in a volcano!!!). I thought an updated Firebrand (miss the puffy sleeves) and Atomic Knights were the nods to the past.
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i know nothing about the atomic knights but i thought some of the insignias on their armor was reminiscent of the legion monitor board sysmbols. lightning lad, saturn girl, kid quantum, and a bit of a streatch polar boy.
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Father Time appeared in Seven Soldiers : Frankenstein #3 as a bald-headed black guy! Don't know how he's suddenly switched to a long, white-haired white guy but I'm hoping there's a better reason than artistic error.
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I have a feeling that Father Time will end up being one of those beings (like Uncle Sam) that really has no actual 'look', but changes his form all the time. In other words, he is beyond 'having a look'.
I feel like this is Morrison's interpretation of the New Gods too. Its all in how we (normal humans) percieve them.
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yeah but does he have to be white??
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Can one of the moderators put 'Ray fans check here' in the thread title for a few weeks? For Wayne  <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">So here's what the latest rumors are, and we'll nkow soon enough. These 'new' Freedom Fighters are really nothing more than government mercenaries right now...but Uncle Sam is preparing to make his return and reclaim the 'Freedom Fighters' moniker as a pro-civil liberties/anti-oppression group. This will take place both here (initially) and then 'Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters'. It will be very political, and the new Firebrand will come into play, etc., etc. BUT, more importantly, the rumor is that when Uncle Sam reappears he'll have his own group helping him, and its there that Ray Terrill will be found, reclaiming the mantle of the Ray (and battling the new Ray). Somebody on Newsarama passed this on to me, so take it for what its worth, but it sounds kinda cool...</span></span>
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Also, Newsaram has posted a six page preview of the new FF: Freedom Fighters Preview
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Good show, Jamie-- I just saw that and came here to post it... 
"Anytime a good book like this is cancelled, I hope another Teen Titan is murdered." --Cobalt
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Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: Can one of the moderators put 'Ray fans check here' in the thread title for a few weeks? For Wayne
<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">So here's what the latest rumors are, and we'll nkow soon enough. These 'new' Freedom Fighters are really nothing more than government mercenaries right now...but Uncle Sam is preparing to make his return and reclaim the 'Freedom Fighters' moniker as a pro-civil liberties/anti-oppression group.
This will take place both here (initially) and then 'Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters'. It will be very political, and the new Firebrand will come into play, etc., etc. BUT, more importantly, the rumor is that when Uncle Sam reappears he'll have his own group helping him, and its there that Ray Terrill will be found, reclaiming the mantle of the Ray (and battling the new Ray). Somebody on Newsarama passed this on to me, so take it for what its worth, but it sounds kinda cool...</span></span> Man I hope that rumor is true. Cause I like Ray Terrill.
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That art is so freaking good I could cry!
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<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">Gee... Doll Man made that man's head explode. So much for the shiny, happy new DC  </span></span>
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<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">I'm sure he was smiling a shiny, happy smile when he did it... </span></span>
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I only read through the first page of discussion over at Newsarama, but there didn't seem to be many positive comments posted so far regarding the Freedom Fighters preview. Of course, it's hard to just the value of an entire issue based solely on the first few pages, not that people don't do that all the time
Some people are like slinkys: not really good for anything, but they bring a smile to your face when you knock them down a flight of stairs
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A pox on message board geeks! Oh, wait...
"Anytime a good book like this is cancelled, I hope another Teen Titan is murdered." --Cobalt
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Originally posted by Nick Vinson: Originally posted by Cobalt Kid: [b] Can one of the moderators put 'Ray fans check here' in the thread title for a few weeks? For Wayne <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">So here's what the latest rumors are, and we'll nkow soon enough. These 'new' Freedom Fighters are really nothing more than government mercenaries right now...but Uncle Sam is preparing to make his return and reclaim the 'Freedom Fighters' moniker as a pro-civil liberties/anti-oppression group. This will take place both here (initially) and then 'Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters'. It will be very political, and the new Firebrand will come into play, etc., etc. BUT, more importantly, the rumor is that when Uncle Sam reappears he'll have his own group helping him, and its there that Ray Terrill will be found, reclaiming the mantle of the Ray (and battling the new Ray). Somebody on Newsarama passed this on to me, so take it for what its worth, but it sounds kinda cool...</span></span> Me too! Me too! Thanks so much to my cadre of Ray-watchers, always on the lookout for vitally important Ray news such as this.
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Originally posted by Spellbinder: I only read through the first page of discussion over at Newsarama, but there didn't seem to be many positive comments posted so far regarding the Freedom Fighters preview. Of course, it's hard to just the value of an entire issue based solely on the first few pages, not that people don't do that all the time If I had to buy comics blind (not knowing creative teams) based on the response by the peanut gallery on Comics news sites there is a good chance I'd never buy another comic. Something else else about comics fans and the internet.
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#4's out!
Loved the cover! Particularly Robin and Dream Girl- oops- I mean Wonder Girl. Not so wild about Kid Devil there, but he's new.
The Nucleur Family! I'd all but forgotten about them! It was fun being reintroduced to their unique family dynamic.
I like large casts, but this *is* getting a bit crowded. Whoops! There goes another Lady Liberty... so not *quite* as crowded. Guess there's a replacement waiting in the wings.
We know Phantom Lady and the Human Bomb wind up in FREEDOM FIGHTERS (at least, I *think* we do). Who else should make the cut?
I'd pick Monolith over Big Foot. One surviving Atomic Knight. The Ray (the *real* one, as in Ray Terrill, but apparently that's not an option). Firebrand. The next Lady Liberty, perhaps? Major Victory?
I'm still curious about Father Time. Hope we get more of an idea about what he's really up to before this mini ends.
What do you think of this trend of mini-series leading into more mini-series? I'm of mixed opinion.
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