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#484245 05/11/05 05:49 PM
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I'm hoping it's not Zemo, either. That would spell "hack" to me as much as reviving Bucky. Heck, I'd rather it be Bucky.


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#484246 05/11/05 05:57 PM
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Here is a sneak peek at #6.

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Ah, typical Newsarama page. So many bells and whistles that my weak little system will time out before the page opens.

Pretty easy to guess where the site of the "failure" is, though.


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I'm hoping it's not Zemo, either. That would spell "hack" to me as much as reviving Bucky. Heck, I'd rather it be Bucky.
With you totally on this. Those two are probably the worst two that it could possibly be.

Of course, Jason Todd was probably the worst idea...(I just can't let it go)

#484249 05/11/05 06:15 PM
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I understand what Winnick wants to do with Todd, but the moment is gone and the opportunity lost. Todd should have been Hush.

The Zemo arc is closed. Has been for decades and works best that way.


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#484250 05/11/05 06:26 PM
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Yup. Just like the Norman Osbourne arc should have stayed closed.

Ever since Norman returned, the Green Goblin (in my mind) has lost almost all of his old mystique as Spidey's great enemy. If Zemo I were ever to return, I feel like it'd be the same.

Discounting Zemo and Bucky, do you have any theories on who it could be? There's the old Captain Americas, but besides that, I'm not really positive on any one person being a major suspect.

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I really don't have a candidate.

The other Caps are all dead and should stay that way, again IMO. Plus, there's no real impact if it's one of them.

The focus on Cap's flashbacks to '45 and on the war in general sure make those events look crucial to the reveal.


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#484252 05/11/05 06:37 PM
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They certainly do.

I'm kinda stumped too, unless it's one of those we don't want back.

BTW, I thought Bucky was pretty kick-ass in those scenes too. It didn't bother me at all to see him killing during wartime, and actually added some more depth to him than I ever saw before.

#484253 05/11/05 06:41 PM
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Yeah, it's nice seeing Bucky portrayed as actually competent instead of just as the kid hostage.

The killing part was a little unnerving at first, and still is a bit, but Brubaker seems to have actually kicked Bucky's age up a few years.


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#484254 05/11/05 06:47 PM
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Yeah, and it makes kinda more sense. More like Cap is in his young 20's here and Bucky in his late teens, so there more like older brother/younger brother than anything.

I do like seeing him competent and an asset in warfare. And I agree, that scene with him choking the guy was really unnerving!

#484255 05/11/05 07:08 PM
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Yeah, I know I commented on that somewhere, just not here. :rolleyes:

It was unnerving, as you guys said, but I realized I like the idea of Bucky being there to do the things that Cap, as a visible symbol of America, isn't able to do comfortably. Much better than being the Invaders' "teen mascot". Props to Brubaker for that neat twist.


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#484256 05/11/05 07:45 PM
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Newsarama (sorry Miner) has a good interview with Brubaker and his use of Bucky. This is the article that made me decide to pick up the first five issues.

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Question. I've only read the first issue so far but do we know yet who that was in the tank? And did anyone else notice that the Skull saluted it?

#484258 05/12/05 09:18 PM
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Newsarama (sorry Miner) has a good interview with Brubaker and his use of Bucky.
No apologies necessary. The server thing is my problem, and cool links are always welcome.

Managed to download this one. Read the comments on the article as well. Some of them went off-topic, as is normal. Thought I'd quote this one from Newsarama administrator Matt Brady just for kicks:

"And I still mourn for the adult Legion, and secretly loathe those twerps who replaced them after Zero Hour."


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#484259 05/13/05 02:29 PM
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Should be more clues in #5... out today!
No clues. Well, there was something, but not enough for me.

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I love this title, but the delays are really killing my buzz. Hopefully this'll be in my subs shipment due either Friday or Monday... the wait since last issue's been long enough. frown
I think I'm better off not knowing when any issue is supposed to come out. That way I'm not disappointed when it's late.


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#484260 05/26/05 02:11 PM
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Issue 6 is here. smile


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#484261 05/26/05 04:28 PM
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#484262 05/27/05 08:54 AM
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Regarding #6 ... I almost can't believe it. But on the other hand, considering what's been happening in comics lately, I guess it only makes sense...

#484263 05/27/05 09:13 AM
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Only if it is suppose to be the original. Weren't there others who took the original's place?

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Only if it is suppose to be the original. Weren't there others who took the original's place?
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#484265 05/27/05 10:02 AM
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Not sure about how I feel about this, although I can say outright that Brubaker is an amazing writer and far better at story-telling than, say, Judd Winnick. Sooooo, he might be able to pull this off.

You’ve all seen my last six or so posts on this subject, so you know how I feel on the subject.

Still, Brubaker’s newsarama interview is very good and he makes a compelling argument. The writers really *have* always kinda left this door open. And it’s not a total disregard of Cap’s history, but Brubaker’s admiration of Cap’s history that’s shining through so far, unlike Bendis and the Avengers, despite him claiming otherwise.

And Brubaker saying that in 1972 ‘real change’ in Marvel became ‘the illusion of change’ really has a bit of honesty to it. When I reread the Silver Age marvels, I do see that excitement of ‘anything goes’, and yet that excitement hasn’t been around in a long time, as if nothing changes and nothing counts anymore. But in order for that excitement to come back, the whole company would have to change, and not in a half-assed way either, which Quesada comes across as. But that’s more a conversation about comics, continuity and Marvel than Cap itself.

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I just keep thinking its a red herring. He has to be someone else. If it is him then that leaves Uncle Ben as the only true death in the Marvel U. I can't think of anyone else who didn't come back (clone, twin, returned from the otherside, etc.).

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I just keep thinking its a red herring. He has to be someone else.
It's probably Clayface... or a Space Phantom? Maybe Zemo in Bucky's body? A sentient clump of Adhesive X given life by the cosmic cube?

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How about Modok's L.M.D. (Life Model Decoy) that fooled the FAKE Baron Strucker (alias The Hood, who was created by Machinesmith) into thinking he might be the real Bucky?


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I don't know guys. I have a feeling this is the real deal...


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