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I thought Paul Levitz did a good job of detaching Brin from the obvious Wolverine connection. He replaced the ill-defined beserker/loner personality with the slow/inferiority complex Brin of the 1980's.

Visually, I liked the way the artists of the era drew T-Wolf very angular with long legs emphasising the super-acrobat aspects of the character.

Although I loved it, removing Brin's feral look was also probably a step in the right direction and I liked the way his feral look briefly returned when he was in full berserker attack mode.

I think that Mark and Barry should probably take their cues in re-imagining T-Wolf from this version of the character. Well defined as a character and less associated with Wolverine.

Wolverine doesn't even have the cockrum wolf hairstyle anymore. give it back to Brin WITH the furry eyes! yes.

if and when BRIN returns .... i'd like to see him looking more human again !!!

my favourite look was STEVE LIGHTLE's version !!!

although i'd prefer to see his more complex original orgin coming through in his personality ....

Matthew.

I can agree getting him away from the Wolverine motif would be a good thing, but he is pretty much boxed in as a scrapper-type character now.

Maybe if his perceptions altered in such a way that everyone else is moving in slo-mo type of thing coupled with a sense of balance/acrobatics and enhanced strength/agility (though certainly not Ultra Boy levels), he'd be a better character?

Were I writing it (here we go), I'd give him an animal instinct too (which I believe he always had, but they never developed- reference the Sensor Girl mystery, wherein he stated 'no one can really do what she appears to do' or some such). When Imra's psionics got nothing, Brin's hackles would tell him differently, something along those lines.

Lone Wolf would work for me. But I think the character needs "a Blok" type side kick, if you will, to balance him out. I think the two had a great relationship that made them very likeable and extremely funny at times. I miss "pebble head". Bring back Brin ("Lone" or "Timber") and Blok!!!

Myg I gotta agree. With all the Legion members we really don't have a "buddy" duo do we. Two characters that pretty much just work off each other. Wolf and Blok worked perfectly IMO. One of my fave things of the old Legion. I'm a big fan of Blok and Mysa as well. Blok ruled

Jorge

Brin & Blok were a great pair, they were sort of the Riggs and Murtaugh of the Legion. There really hasn't been anything like it since, and I miss it. One of my quibbles with the Zero Hour team was that the friendships and rivalries just weren't there. I am optimistic that the new book will move back in that direction.

One thing that we learned in the pre-boot Legion was that Val and Brin were good friends, although I never saw (on panel) evidence of that while Karate Kid was alive.

It seemed like Sun Boy (Dirk) and Star Boy (Thom) were good friends. They were always playing D&D together during any down time.

Pol Krinn and Grev Mallor seemed to be developing a friendship while they were at the Academy in Montauk.

The classic friendship was of course Garth and Rokk. They were like brothers, always there for one another.

I once heard mention that Jan and Dirk were supposedly good friends as well. In Superboy & the Legion issue# 215, Element Lad was forced to punch out an "out of control" Sun Boy, and regreted doing so to a "close pal".

Other than Ayla and Vi, I think Tasmia and Tinya were probably the closest of the female Legionnaires. Although I'm not so sure Lar Gand and Jo Nah were all that close.

Oh, I dunno. I always got the feeling that Jo and Lar hung out quite a lot together, leaving Shady and Tinya to their own devices.

During the Levitz period, they were practically a foursome from my memories.

That may have been just a double date type of thing though.

Your'e right, they were a foursome back then. But I think that the Jo/Lar "friendship" was based primarily on Shady and Tinya. Neither one was really close to any of the other women on the team. So where they went, the guys followed. I don't remember Jo and Lar hanging out socially, without the women. Brin & Blok hung out. Garth & Rokk were always close (on and off panel).

These are the Legion dynamics that I miss most. The character interaction and the lack of it for some members. If you think about it, there were members that rarely had two words to say to one another, and to me that made things really interesting! There are actually Legionnaires (pre boot) that never met. Tyroc joined after the original Invisible Kid. Lyle of course never got the chance to meet most of the newer members. Ferro Lad and Chemical King had little interaction with members while they were alive, and never got the chance to meet many others. Dawnstar really couldn't care less one way or the other.

Last time I saw Myg, he had a "chip" on his shoulder, so I can't imagine he made many friends. I often wonder how he got along with Grev Mallor while they were both at the Academy and both served briefly in the subs together.

Last but certainly not least, Dawny and Mysa were not the best of friends either!

My impression was almost the opposite. Lar and Jo's friendship was more based on the fact that they has similar powers and would work together a lot when strength was needed. Tinya and Shady's friendship seemed to me based on the fact that they'd be left behind while the big boys were out doing their thing.

I also miss the vaious relationships. Not just the close ones, but the ones that were tense or just not very friendly as well. It was interesting to see a character get along with one Legionnaire then trade insults with another. It makes you see the character from different points of view.

My favorite example of this is when Wildfire was with the trainees, a fight actually broke out between the ones that thought he was a noble hero and the ones who thought he was a jerk. Both were justified in their interpretations which only made Wildfire seem more interesting to me.

There was an another important link between Lar and Jo that wasn't touched upon very much: Superboy. I think because they both lived in Smallville near or with Superboy, they had a unique relationship to him. That carried over to the 30th century between these two, even with Kal out of the picture. That's something I always saw. I don't know if anyone else did or it was just some weird perception on my part.