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Zatanna in her blue and white Perez costume, Darden.

And Gazer... That's not to say it's actually Ray, or these aren't a red herring... Issue 7's big reveal should be interesting, though...

One thing's been bothering me since the first issue, though. (Not the crap with Sue, that will ALWAYS bother me! )

The kids who shot up Bolt... they seemed crazed during their shooting spree, or possessed... Afterwards, one runs off while the other drops his gun in shock before calling 911 for Bolt. And how does Luthor's armor figure into any of this???

Like I said, it should be interesting to see how everything fits together.

I'm curious about that fed's line to Boomerang's son about how all these villains end up getting resurrected whenever someone's allowed to see the body. It could be a throwaway line about how villains seem to die then come back all the time, but I dunno...

D'OH!!

I just had a real senior moment yesterday.

I was in my local comic shop to pick up GL Rebirth and saw IC on the shelf. Thinking it was the new/last issue I bought it, then when I opened it up I realised it was the reprint of issue 1.



I think I'll just book the room in the home now.

DC and Marvel will be counting on the failing memories of aging fans to boost their sales!

Faraway, can't you return it? I'm pretty sure my dealer would do that for me.

Actually, offer him the first printing for 10 pounds store credit and KEEP the Rags cover. I am so FREAKing sick of Michael Turner, and Rags' cover is so much better than any of Turner's...

Hey, that is a good idea! Actually, the Turner cover is probably worth more; it might not hurt to try to ebay it.

Now that it's over, I'm a little underwelmed by the whole thing and not sure all of it was necessary. I wish this was linked to that DC Super-Team storyline somehow to better explain the killer's actions.

BTW, it was Jean Loring!

Sue died for this.


What a frelling waste.

Utter, utter horsecrap.

i havent got it yet! i mustve missed it at the store.

someone can spoil it for me though...

I did. Above ^.

i mean, what happened?

Ray Palmer figures out the truth. The killer goes in Arkam Asylum. We see how life goes on for the rest of the DCU.

The Atom and Firehawk seem to retire. Batman chooses to ignore the fact he was mind-wiped.

WTF?

The DCU must have some messed-up court system, where anyone can be deemed "criminally insane" at the drop of a hat. What evidence do they have that [the killer] is insane, other than the supposed heinousness of his/her crimes? So [the killer] was tried, found insane, and committed to Arkham Asylum in what seemed to have been a matter of days? What? And do all serial killers in the DCU end up in Arkham Asylum? Too bizarre. (Plus, apparently the torture of specific inmates in Arkham Asylum is obvious enough to make front-page news, but not so heinous that anyone actually does anything about it.)

It also annoyed me that about nine different loose ends were not even addressed, let alone tied up, in the last issue. I suppose we'll now have to buy all those IC tie-ins?

Bah.

What a freakin' rip-off, cop-out, horsecrap ending. Whoever edited this book and let this ending happen should be fired.

1. Ray always held a torch for Jean. To go to these lengths is just ludicrous. Since when do women have to kill to get guys back??? Wouldn't just putting out have accomplished the goal??? But I guess a booty-call doesn't sell a million issues.

2. What was accomplished by this entire story? The elimination of 2 heroes wives. The intro of an Oracle for crooks. Knocked off Tim's dad. Rebooted Capt. Boomerang. Wow. Great job. You could've done all this by a simple building collapse. Or a gas line explosion. A random act like that would have been more powerful, in retrospect, than this dung heap.

3. Oh, here we go. Batman mindwiped. The JLA torn apart by secrets. I liked it better when it was "Tower of Babel" and Ra's al Ghul was behind it.

4. I could go on, but why? This series had the opportunity to be great. Ray as the killer made sense. This is poop. Someone at the DC editorial staff should grow a pair.

Identity Crisis my ass. More like Credibility Crisis to me.

Yeah, I was pretty disappointed by the thing myself but at this point my enthusiasm had dimmed considerably. The ending seemed pretty anticlimactic to me and worse, left me feeling like a lot of it didn't make sense.

I read on the DC boards that Jean had been insane at one point - is that right? The Atom mentions how he remembers why they got divorced in the first place but y'know what? I don't! If that's at all relevant, why not explain it (or did I miss something from the other issue?)? And what's this nonsense about her bringing some other weapons just in case? Where'd she even get a weapon like that? Talk about forced.

So they spent all this time on Dr Light as though he was still a player in this drama, but we just see him with his newly recovered memory just sitting there. I suppose it's a lead up to his return in "Teen Titans" or something, but I felt cheated there.

And tell me again why Jean left no trace whatsoever? She wasn't even microscopic the whole time. The bungling, deranged ex-wife of the Atom was able to outsmart the entirety of DC's heroes?

And tell me again how Batman's miraculous detective skills were able to put it together?? Every other detective from Jessica Fletcher to Encyclopedia Brown explains how they figured it out - we're just supposed to believe that Batman looked over the evidence and it just came to him??

And I've criticized Meltzer for uveruse of heroes' secret ID's in this story, but c'mon - Jean Loring knows that Bruce Wayne is the Batman?? Does Doiby Dickles know too?

Man! I should put my first printings up on eBay before everyone ELSE figures out it was complete shit!

Overall I was less than impressed with the mini. Let's see... they killed off Sue, who I kinda liked. They pushed Tim into the Batman direction by murdering his father. They completely screwed up my favorite JLA era by making the heroes as bad as the villains by having them screwing around with mind control.

Just out of curiosity, is there some reason why they didn't just move the family members to the watchtower while they tried to find the murderer?

Cuz that would've made too much sense and Meltzer needed the heroes to run around like panicked idiots to create drama.

Well I hate to say it because I have *loved* this series so far... but I was also extremely let down by the ending!

So many loose ends left hanging - Who was Owen's mother? Why did Bolt seem to lose his powers? What was the significance of the Luthor suit? What is Batman going to do about the mind-wiping? Did Black Lightning and Katana get dessert to go with that meal? ... and so on.

And the series really accomplished very little too - Atom and Firehawk retired? Well not according to current issues of JLA and Firestorm they haven't! Tim Drake loses his father and Elongated Man loses his wife? Great - take away the best examples of what set them apart from most other heroes. For a series that was supposed to "ROCK DC TO ITS CORE!" as all the ads said - it really didn't. Now most of that is probably the fault of the DC Marketing department but still - it annoys.

Such a shame - Identity Crisis was a great journey but the destination sucked!

If I had bothered buying the last two issues (I think my copy of 7 comes with my first shipment from DCBS at the end of the month) I'd do it. At least this didn't suck as much as Identity Disk. Did anyone even bother finishing that series?

well even i was let down by this ending !!! and i'm usually easily pleased !!!

i thought we may have seen JEAN totally "flip out" and attack or stab RAY !!!??? .... go a bit "FATAL ATTRACTION" at least !!!

i had enjoyed the build up for the most part, and the JEAN's reason for "attacking" SUE [ did make sense ] but for the whole storyline to play out of a supposed accident, is pretty weak imo !!!

as as other people have said, we haven't really got any major "shake ups" from this series, apart from the senseless deaths of some of the more "human" characters of the DC UNIVERSE .....

Matthew.

I also found this unsatisfying: although I'm OK with the "big picture" of the killer and the motive, the details leave a lot to be desired.
For example: hard enough to believe that Jean would know the secret IDs of Superman and Batman, but why would she know the ID of the current Robin? I'm pretty sure Jean and Ray had already split up before Tim appeared, so why would anyone have told her? Heck, why would Ray even know? Tim's never been a JLA member.

Yep. Around the end of the Silver Age Atom title, and then into Atom & Hawkman.

Short answer: Jean was cheating on Ray (this dates from the period of the Power Of The Atom specials and minis, and I don't have those back issues handy to review the details).

Good points.

Especially since she was crying and stuff. Didn't any of those tears end up on the floor? And if not tears, or a stray hair or fleck of dry skin -- weren't there any, um, Jean particles in the environment that one of those high-powered folks could have detected?

I've heard the Bolt thing may get covered in a comic fairly soon. Owen seems like a good candidate to show up in FLASH. No idea about your other (good) questions.

I have to agree with folks here. #7 was a serious letdown.