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Sorry, but Cap's a hottie, too. Plus, he's awesome.

i think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one....


<<besides he's the traitor...we'll that would actually earn him points in my book with this crew>>

what's so awesome about him?

I think Jan points out all the reasons Ulti-Cap ISN'T such a hottie after all. Ulti-Hank is WAY hotter.

Whoever the traitor is... needs to die a horrible, miserable, bloody death. Why go after Hawkeye's entire family like that? Horrid.

"Now you're just being stupid, soldier". Maybe the traitor IS Cap. That sounded a lot like him. Or Tony. Damn, I dunno. I am VERY cuious to see if Hawkeye survives this somehow. It doesn't look likely, though.

Scarlet Witch DOES have powers. Kewl!

I read ULTIMATES 2 ANNUAL # 1.

Very well-written. Color me curious about all these new characters introduced.

Plus the Ultimate DEFENDERS make a return appearance and we learn there's more to Son of Satan than we originally were allowed to believe!

oooooo i read it too. fury is a bad bad man.

i can't help but hope er...i mean think the new iron men and giant men, four seasons are all cannon fodder soon to be dead....

yet more dissention among the ultimates

I read # 8.

So. Cap as bad guy.

Something else else's going on here.

I guessed right!! I guessed right!! Wooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Except the part where Cap is a bad, bad man. That's not so much the woo.

P.S. WHY IS HAWKEYE DEAD??? I HATE THE WORLD!!!! ><

I'm convinced its Fury that's the bad guy. He got what he wanted out of the Ultimates and gained the public's support. Now they've outlived their usefulness--Thor, Hank, Clint, (kinda Jan) and now Cap. I bet Natasha is in on it too. Loki fitting in too...?

Great, great issue though. The Ultimates is excellent, and I keep forgetting about how good it is until I read it.

I think it's Loki twisting things around. I dont think Cap's the traitor -- he just doesn't seem that ambitious to me. Too bad that yet again, this book is about them taking down their own members. What's that all about? What's Millar trying to say here?

That's really all the Ultimates have been about, isn't it? Hmm. Do I smell a rut?

I don't think Cap's a traitor, either. I'm also not entirely convinced Hawkeye is dead. Otherwise, why would his body be missing? I'm thinking he's off recovering and biding his time before he kicks Fury's butt for murdering his family. I think if Ultimates Annual #1 didn't point the figure straight at Fury (who was, you'll notice, already planning to replace Cap - and this was before the video of the Hawkeye family was seen), I don't know what else would. The only possible redemption for Fury would be if he were under some sort of mind control.

As for why certain team members are be taken out? They're the ones that are least malleable and most likely to rebel against whatever plans Fury and/or Loki have.

ok after reading the latest issue i do not think that cap's a traitor. but he is a crybaby

loki could definately be screwing things up.

unrelated: the hulk is still missing too.

who's left to go to natasha and tony's wedding? i sense a dynasty style bruhahaha coming on next issue.

maybe the good ulti's will join together to beat fury.

The Hulk isn't missing so much as hiding. And it sounds like he's not a psycho this time around since he's helped people. Maybe he'll turn up and save the day. Heck, for all we know the traitor tampered with the Hulk serum and caused him to act so badly.

I'm sticking with the Black Widow man. I know it sounds obvious...but only she has the stones.

numero 9! spoilers!!!!!


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kicked butt, and there were actually some heroics by some ultimates versus someone other than their teammates.

ARGH! I just read this over lunch! And amidst all the explosions and action, all I can think is... Jarvis? Jarvis?! JAAAAARVIS!?!?

Those giant men got hammered -- and I thought Atom Girl had a violent attack style...!

I read it! New Avengers who? Man, I never thought I would like this title but I do. I always thought the proper Avengers needed a shake-up...a bit of modernatization...but I hated New Avengers. Ultimates I adore.

I was literally scared when Loki & co. attacked. The last page scared me. These guys are villains. America's enemies indeed. No political correctness here! You know in every WWIII scenario I've read the Russians do team up with China...scary scenario. Anyways, it rocked. Hawkeye isn't dead! Sadly his entire family is which I can only guess will make him really mad...and sadly probably more interesting. Yes...it's sad. I always guessed the traitor was the Widow. heck I think I guessed her as traitor before we knew there was a traitor.

I can't say enough about this title. The art rocked. Well worth the wait. Also I think Millar was trying to say something with the Ultimate reserves teams. You can have an army of Giant-Men, of Super Soldiers, of Iron Men...still not the same thing. Can't wait to see the Ultimates become Avengers! Cap, Tony, Thor, Hawkeye are going to whip some serious butt.

Certainly and 'OMG' issue. i'm with don jorge - i can't what for the avenging! oh and we see Fury is less limbered, but did wanda 'pop' and Quicksilver get fried? And what was Wasp doing...?

Also like the political comments made by Millar. This was a pre-emptive strike against the USA. And the way Millar wrote it they deserved it. SHIELD has been playing dirty pool for some time now with whole Super Soldiers programs...sneaking into other countries, etc.

In the end Cap is going to be the hero and Millar didn't make it obviously anti-American much...but it was. I wonder if Captain Britain is going to show up?! I love CB personally. Always loved he wasn't perfect like CA. This is good stuff.

See, I thought it was rather predictable. And, well, kind of dumb. I mean, the Russian?? Geez, what decade are we in???? Though, I did like her reasons (which they've alluded to on more than one occassion).

That said, I still admit to loving a lot of this issue. Including but not limited to Loki finally admitting to Asgard and watching the team get owned. Oh yeah, good times. Oh, and Hawkeye still being alive!! w00t!!!!!

Caliente, regarding Russians. The Cold War is over but as I said if WWIII started tommorrow no one knows if Russia will go with the east or west.

Eh, I'm not convinced.

I do like that she wasn't doing it for Mother Russia or whatever, though. At least, not directly.

Scary issue, for certain.

Loki looked so delciously evil and hot!

Heh. It was nice to see Thor vindicated. Guess it wasn't all in his head! I wonder if Banner will be back to help out his erstwhile teammates...