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Jillikers!! If Cap hurts Thor's nads, I'll be pissed!!

Yeah, Disaster, I figure Scarlet Witch will be the only one who could take Thor down wether he's for real or a human using stolen tech.

# 5 is going to be great.

Something else else that someone posted elsewhere:

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I spotted him in the dner scene but missed him in the protestor crowd. Looks like Thor's on the level. Good.

Although I would still love him regardless, I think having him be an actual nutbag with stolen tech would horribly damage the character in the long run for the sake of one fleeting "SHOCK VALUE!!" moment.

As tough as Cap is I don't think he wants any part of Thor.

I hope that is Loki!

I've been buying Ultimates in trade but nice to read some spoilers.

I like the Tony-Natasha-Hawkeye thing. Hawkeye works with a wife and kids. Tony and Natasha IMO have always been a natural couple.

Part of the strength of the Ultimates is not worrying about old continuity or solo books as much. I mean the writer of the Avengers is writing a romantic thing for Tony but the Iron Man writer bring Pepper back yet again.(ugh) Geez if Ultimate Pepper shows up I may kill myself.

(so how are we going to make sure Jorg doesn't see the latest issue??)

Actually, don't worry Jorg - she only had one line and appeared to only be a member of Tony's support staff (as well as Happy). Whether she'll play a larger role in "Ultimate Iron Man" remains to be seen...

Drake...NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Ugh I'm so over Pepper already. She was cool in the Marvel Age flashbacks but I think she should stay there. doh!

The only "secret weapon" that could possibly take down Thor is the Hulk, and we know he's out of the picture for now. However, I admit that Cap lasted a lot longer against the Hulk than I would ever have suspected was possible.

where is lester spiffany when you need him?

Ok, it's more a glass cage than a rubber rooom, but still...

I like that they still left it a bit open to interpretation that he might still be nuts. The thing is, if he's really the son of Odin, why would the belt be the source of his power? Did Loki warp reality to make it so or was the power belt story a cover for a more mystic reason for Thor's weakness?

I thought the fight was done well - you couldn't help but feel sorry for Thor. It reminded me more of the villagers with their torches persecuting Frankenstien's monster than the Christ analogy Millar was trying to convey.

The notion of a traitor within the team is interesting. The only one it probably can't be is Pym cuz that's been done to death.

ahh the ultimates beat up my boy thor this week. i hate them all. except for quicksilver who probably hates his most likely mutie hating team mates.

thor went too easy on them cause he's a hero, otherwise natasha would be hammered in half. i expected at least some of the captains to eat it. i bet captain france saw more action than sideliner captain A.

why are thor's his powers dependent ona belt when loki's are not? maybe you are right drake.

and the loki that is haunting him happens to look just like gunnar? hmmm. well thor was right about the middle east deployment at least.

by the way, wasp should be dead. dead. stomach acid? i wouldn't say i missed that computer genius turned rebound mrs. steve rodgers. thor shoulda bit down instead of swallowed.

the ultimates are starting to all seem like government sheep or tools, which makes sense cause it's a government team. except tony who is spineless. maybe he's the traitor, i bet it's that natasha, who is my least favorite ultimate. can she at least get her own weapons other than a mrs. iron man suit? and hawkeyes right, why isn't everyone furnished with an iron man suit? expensive they may be but they can make 6 or 7. but, i get why tony would be holding out on them though.

oh and the scarlet witch is useless, and a bit needy and creepily involved with quicksilver.

that's my rant.

i am going to form the ultimate masters of evil now. don't the ultimates have anyone to beat up on besides non powered humans and their own teammates? boooooooring.

don't get me wrong i like the book. i'm so into it obviously.

samuel l. nick fury needs to GO too. he's slimy.

I'm betting on Black Widow or Hawkeye but we'll have to see.

I'm looking forward to Ultimate Wonder Man though, which Millar hinted that we might see sometime this year...

ultimate wonder man. hmmm, he was kinda ultimate before. interesting to see what they do.

I read in a similar thread that the Thor of Norse myth derived his great strength from his enchanted belt.

I wonder (no pun intended) if they'll play up the "back from the dead" aspect to his origin. I just have a feeling...

i think that was just strength, or i may be confusing my norse with my marvel

Dang, I need to hit the CBS ASAP!

If stomach acid is so strong that it can eat through flesh, how does it stay in your stomach? Is this a chicken & egg thing?

i believe the working stomach is different than flesh. stomach acid and saliva can break beef and evn some bones like the stray fish bone or chicken bone.

any one else know more about how the stomach protects itself?

Dodging the question of the stomach (though I'm curious, too-- I *think* there're agents/bacteria present that keep the acids in check... but I'm not sure), I'll say that I admire this book more than I like it.

Hulk and Thor are the only characters that I like (though I sort of feel some sympathy for Hank Pym-- his ex gave as good as she got, IMO). I don't know if it's a failing, but there has to be at least one character that I out and out *like* in order for me to really enjoy a book.

I wish it was this Wanda-- or this Wasp-- or this Black Widow-- that went kerblooey and single-handedly disassembled a superteam.

I can't argue that it's a well-made product, though.

i guess i feel the same way mystery lad.

OK-- I *was* looking forward to the debut of the Ultimate Defenders... but in all the press, the reporters/interviewers and the creators seem to be going out of their way to put down the characters of VALKYRIE, NIGHTHAWK and HELLCAT.

Now I know some of the first volume DEFENDERS stories were a little... eccentric, but are those characters really held in that little regard?

I've been sort of surprised by that. Hellcat, or Patsy Walker, anyway-- I can kind of understand... she did get her start as a character in one of Marvel's romance comics, after all.

*I* like her and think that's a cool tidbit... but I can see the more 'cool' driven fanboys pooh-poohing her. But Val and Nighthawk? Why!?

Frankly, I almost don't want to read this series anymore!

I'm sure I'll get over it by the time the next issue comes out, though...

valkyrie is cool.

i wanna see her chop a few ultimates in half.

It's the "cool" fanboys who LIKE Valkyrie, Hellcat & Nightthawk.

But re: ULITMATES # 5...


NoooooOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooo!!!

The BASTARDS!!!!!! Thor's HAIR--- Thor's beautiful beautiful HAIR---!!! DAMN THEM ALL!!!!! DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!!!!

I've never hated the Marvel-U Proper Loki like I DESPISE the Ultimate Loki.

Does Ultimate Scarlet Witch actually HAVE any powers? Have they ever been used on-panel anywhere?

And why did Quicksilver's snatching of the belt defeat Thor, if he really IS what he says he is?

Ultimate Natasha's a bit of a cuntessa, isn't she?