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The latest issue was a bit disappointing for me after the past few. However, I think it was probably needed to re-establish Dick's perspective.

The one thing that is really bothering me is the constant allusion to the fact that Dick was NOT supposed to survive IC. Does anyone else feel like we're seeing the groundwork being laid for the next BIG DCU event?

Vee,

I think so. We're also seeing the groundwork being laid in the following titles, I believe.

Mystery in Space
Omega Men
Ion
The History of the DC Universe backups from 52

The Monitors have appeared in every one of these series (MiS shows a shadow cast one) and Donna, Kyle and Dick have all been told that they should have died.

As for the issue itself, yeah, it wasn't really strong but considering what came before, it wasn't that bad.

Jamie

Wasn't that bad? Dick gets taken down by a guy with an iPod and a shovel. Okay a bum arm and he's no longer good at self defense? But he can still dig through 30 feet of dirt with it?

Marv's run has been okay, certainly better than Jones'. But it's not grabbing me. So far, we've seen Dick being himself, not Nightwing. When he does don the suit, he's been less than succesful.

I think Marv has Dick say roughtly the same thing in that issue.

Given that Marv only thought he had four issues initially, this ish is possibly him stretching things out a bit. Still, I liked that Dick was actually thinking instead of reacting here, and I liked that he got out of the situation without help.

CJ,

I look at it this way, it could have been worse.

Jamie

See I liked Devin's run for the most part. (I'm still waiting to see what happened with the proposal..) I listened to everyone complain about her having Dick act out of character.

Now, Marv has the book and there is a more positive tone that I do appreciate. But it seems he's writing Nightwing out of character now.

Where as Devin had Dick being moody and Nightwing having a tough go, Marv has Dick being more positive, but Nightwing is almost incompetent.

Guess as long as it isn't Jones, I'll be thankful.

CJ, I disagree with him being written out of character. I think he has been more "in character" due to the fact that he admits that he hasn't been himself for some time, and sees the need to get back on track. Now in reality, thats Marv telling us that we know that the previous turns haven't turned out well, but things are going to change. If he just did it out of the blue, that would be more than a little off. Four issues isn't a lot to repair the damage done to the character by the last two writers.

You may have liked Devon, but her stories were for the most part roundly hated because she turned him into a vapid weakling. The so-called "fight or f***" thing. The rape scene. His wishy washy attitude. The fact that a mary sue character became the focus of the book.

Now, the focus is on Dick and Nightwing. Both have to work for the book to make it. And remember, Marv thought he only had four issues to try and turn things around for the character. He has more now. And you can bet he wont be needing a last minute save by Dinah and Babs to help him out.

And Nightwing isn't incompetent, he is finally coming out of a long fog and clearing his thoughts. The body will heal, the mind needed refocusing.

He posts over on the DC boards. Check out this thread for his thoughts...

http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/web/thread.jspa?threadID=2000098853&tstart=0

Still, i hope it comes around more to your liking.

I can see where Marv was coming from, and what he was trying to do. But it seems Dick still spends most of his time internally whining about his life. With Devin is was monolouges about his failures. Now, it's monologues about his monolouges.

Readers didn't like the passive behaviour Dick went through after Blockbuster took his life away. That always seemed temporary to me, as if it was his grieving stage and that Devin was going to bring him around.

I wouldn't say he's been pro-active in Marv's arc. In the most recent issue, we learn Dick dons the union suit because it's all he can let himself do? Seems Dick spends more time avoiding his problems than dealing with them.

And for sake of my sanity- someone please give any artist drawing Nightwing a pinup by McDaniel! The wrist/ankle cuffs look like crap.

Okay now this is how Marv should have started his run...

This week's issue was mostly set up. We get to see the new villains, Bride & Groom, start causing some trouble. Nightwing makes a follow up visit, while Dick takes care of some personal life stuff.

The best was seeing Dick fret over his talk with Bruce- he stills worries over what the old man thinks of him. And seeing Bruce be all positive and reassuring with his oldest was a nice touch.

The art was good, aside from the cuffs.

I have to agree, this is how they should have started off the run. Lets hope it starts to really roll along now. I was starting to get worried that this might turn into a huge disaster.

Great improvement on the art, it's energetic and smooth- great for an acrobatic character.

Marv has moved the story along, giving us a Dick I can believe in. Sure, he's had his moments of doubt, but it doesn't stop our hero. This is the Batman's prodigy.

Did all the excitement about this book die down? Has Marv lost his appeal? Maybe Didio was right...

Anyone else read the annual?

I did...thought it was okay but not great. I loved seeing Babs in costume again and some of the flashbacks were pretty funny, especially when Dick and Babs were trapped in the vault (?)

There were some really funny moments, but there were a couple of clunkers too.

The continued playing down of the Dick-Kory relationship is not appreciated.

Haven't read a Nightwing book in ages. Back in the Dixon days. I enjoyed the annual. Lots of funny parts. Kinda sad too.

The Annual was excellent, but still does nothing to explain Dick waking up OYL with a Babs-wannabe... @#$%ing Jones...

With any luck, they'll just forget that entire run ever happened.

Marv's latest issue had a wtf moment- opening with Dick and a super team of criminals?!?! This guy has ties to every good guy in spandex, and he grabs a bunch of unheard of meta-ruffians?


Post OYL, I've not been impressed with this book. Time to consider the axe.

It's consistent, if nothing else.

The same criticism could (and should) be applied to the Devin Grayson's run.

This arc wasn't bad, but it was stretched out too long. I think they should try to cut back to some done-in-ones (or twos).

Marv can write an good opening piece, but his follow through seems to lack that excitement. If this doesn't have a bang for a finish, I'm done.

Fabian Nicieza is doing a stint on Nightwing. Sorry gang, but he's my Marv Wolfman.

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Fabian's a big fan of the character, from what I hear. Good that he's finally getting a shot at the title.