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I love Geoff but I'm afraid that it would be too dark for the interpretation most would like to see. Fabian would be good. He's one of those writers than can go from light to dark stories pretty easily. Putting Heinberg on any project makes me nervous because of the delays. I wonder how long before WW gets a guest writer.... Busiek actually would be a good choice, as would Waid. I'd like to see a writer with a lot of clout take over though. A lot of people feel that Dick is getting the shaft after his initial setup in the first few issues of IC. There's been some recent blogging going on about this very subject. The Absorbacon I'm very much inclined to agree with these folks. Jamie
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Well, I've dropped this again. For as long as DC continues to treat NIGHTWING like the redheaded stepchild of the Batbooks. We need a top writer, and an artist to go with him/her. Heinberg's going to be too busy trying to get 6 issues each of YA and WW out a year. I'll have to check out Dick's guest-spot in Fabe and Busiek's Superman arc.
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Jones isn't working here, much like his HULK wasn't working. He doesn't seem to have the character down, just some vague notions of his recent history. With the OYL gap, and what we know of his time with Bruce and Tim, it seems odd to continue themes from Devin's run.
Give Fabe the title. He could use some DC work, and he'd certainly lighten the title up a bit. Bring back McDaniel or Hester (he didn't get much time on the book.)
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Originally posted by Pov: Heinberg's going to be too busy trying to get 6 issues each of YA and WW out a year.
Yeah, I think "Young Avengers Quarterly" would make me cry
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Unfortunately, Hester/Parks are busy with the new Ant-man series.
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Good news! At least it *could* be... Follow this link and scroll down a little over halfway. Warning-- there may be spoilers about other DC titles before you get to the news item relevant to this thread. http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/000764634.cfm
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That news should have me jumping for joy at the prospect. Unfortunately I read the other spoilers and saw one regarding the Legion a few entries below the Nightwing one that has completely ruined my day.
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I'm not a fan of the upcoming writer. He's not bad, just hasn't impressed me with anything.
As for the current team- ugh! Given the intentions for Dick, this title should have been cancelled ala Flash and WW.
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Looks like this could be some potentially good news for us long-suffering Nightwing fans. Marv Wolfman returns to write Nightwing! Only for four issues but I have a feeling DC's skittish over committing to another writer for longer. For me, what he has to say about what needs to be done with the character really echoes what most of us feel here. Jamie
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i may start purchasing Nightwing monthly again. But at this point Id have to read the first issue before i make a decision. However I am more willing to read a Wolfman issue than any of the Jones stuff.
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Yeah, I might pick up the Wolfman issues just to see. He used to have a pretty good handle on Dick, but that was many years ago, so we'll have to see if he's still got it.
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Ugh! This week's issue was a horrible quick fix. And we've still got 2 more issues of Jones.
I don't think Wolfman's going to break the slump. They need a big name to get excitment going- and Marv's been out of the spotlight for a bit.
And Jurgens hasn't ever nailed Dick's suit- he makes the gloves look like wrist bands.
I can't believe I'm so apathetic about a title that was my must read for so long.
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I just picked up the first two trades of the Dixon/McDaniel run... man. Id forgotten how good this book was, but even their run didnt pick up steam until the 6th issue. Im only saying.
Id rather not see Dixon or McDaniel return to Nightwing. It would kind of have that "Getting the Band back together" feel. and ReUnion tours just dont do it for me. Also it would kinda tarnish the "fond memories" I have of their initial collaboration a la Claremont's returns to X-Men.
If Johns is soo hot to write Nightwing, he'd find room in his Schedule for it. Nightwing could possibly challenge Batman for sales... AGAIN!
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Anyone care anymore?
The new issue wasn't all that messed up. The artist was good. But it's too dark, literally. Maybe that's a colourist thing, but I like being able to read a story. And Nightwing isn't the grim and gritty guy, he's a lively fun loving acrobat.
The story isn't much, sort of an epilogue to the Brothers Grimm.
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I wasn't a fan of the art myself.
But it did look like Jones was starting to get a grip on the Dick Grayson character. Too little, too late, methinks, though I don't put all the blame on Jones.
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A new team, a new take. Any new opinions?
It was an okay start. Certainly glad to see the difference between Nightwing and Bats spelled out in the first page. There wasnt' much in the way of subtlety going on in the story. But as a first issue set-up, it was fun.
Got to say, I really don't like the Nightwing outfit. It's too sleek, too skin tight. I know Dick's an acrobat, but I just can'e see anyone wearing this- ever. Other than that, it looked beautiful. And with the extension of Marv's time on the title, I wouldn't mind seeing the art stick around as well....
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I've been on the verge of dropping this title for a while now and hung on because Marv was taking over. I must say this first issue was a good start. This finally felt like Dick again. Looking forward to seeing where this is going to go in the coming months.
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So, two issues of Wolfman. What's the word gang?
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Much better! Nightwing is back and looking great!
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I grant Marv has certainly lightned the tone of the book. It just feels brighter with his writing. Dick isn't moping, just working the case.
The art is nice to lok at too. The Jurgens/Rapmund combo is working here. Just wish they'd get rid of the cuffs on Dick's forearms and calves.
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I'm on this like white on rice. Now if we can just get Marv to start writing Outsiders, I'll be extremely happy.
I have to say, the only thing I'm not digging is the inking over Jurgens pencils. He's not been getting the best inkers for his work lately at DC and I think it's making him look sloppy.
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Two issues? I've only got the one. Damn.
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Originally posted by Stratum: I have to say, the only thing I'm not digging is the inking over Jurgens pencils. He's not been getting the best inkers for his work lately at DC and I think it's making him look sloppy.
I see your point but it still looks OK to me. They've announced that Jamal Igle will be taking over art chores with #128. Don't know if they'll change inkers as well or the styles will mesh better. We'll see.
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Originally posted by Outdoor Miner: I see your point but it still looks OK to me.
They've announced that Jamal Igle will be taking over art chores with #128. Don't know if they'll change inkers as well or the styles will mesh better. We'll see. OM, that's a very minor quibble. More lamenting that Jurgens can't get a decent inker than any real bearing of the story, which I am enjoying. Jamie
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I've only read Marv's first issue so far and it was enough to bring me right back in, as if Grayson and Jones (and Winnick's use of him in Outsiders*) were a bad dream. Definately a great relief to have read that issue--looking forward to reading the next. <span style="font-size: 10px;">*I almost said 'Winnick's use of Dick' but knowing this board, I decided against it </span>
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