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... though I don't like the general direction of Dick's continued disillusion (when's he going to catch up with the Nightwing who knows Donna's alive? That'll make a *huge* difference-- or it should), I found this a pretty fun issue. Deathstroke enlisting Dick to train Ravager is a plot turn I never would've guessed.
There's a bit too much of Dick breaking hearts (Ravager and the orphan mafia girl, here), but it does, at least, propel the plot forward.
If Dick's going to infiltrate the Secret Society, he'll be doing it with Deathstroke's cooperation? Interesting.
I still wish Dick would go on tour with a rebuilt Halley's Circus for a bit.
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just picked this up after a long time away from Nightwing (one of my fave heroes but I fell off before Dixon left)
Hester's artwork is great on this ... his motion is completely different from McDaniels' flow but it still works phenomenally
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I'm torn. I dropped NIGHTWING after Dixon and McDaniel's Year One arc and swore I wouldn't touch it as long as Devin G was still "writing" the book... even at the expense of Hester and Park's great artwork. But this storyline keeps pulling at me, daring me to check it out. I keep seeing the upcoming covers by H&P, with Dick in his Deathstroke outfit, and.... argh!  I keep telling myself it's just Devin ripping off the "Red X" Robin idea from the TEEN TITANS GO! cartoon... it's working so far.  
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Well, Andy and Pov- Hester's work is great... but Devin's still doing everything she can to turn Dick as grim as Batman.
The Deathstroke/villain infiltration is a good story, though-- and will apparently lead to IC and postIC events.
Have you read rumors about what's supposed to happen in the Bat-family after IC? Given recent events here, I wonder if the rumor-starters got the characters involved reversed somehow...
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Originally posted by Pov: I dropped NIGHTWING after Dixon and McDaniel's Year One arc and swore I wouldn't touch it as long as Devin G was still "writing" the book... even at the expense of Hester and Park's great artwork.
But this storyline keeps pulling at me, daring me to check it out. I keep seeing the upcoming covers by H&P, with Dick in his Deathstroke outfit, and.... argh!
You can always just check it out in the store, and then if you must, get a copy of whatever quarter box these issues will inevitably find their way into. That said, having seen a copy, I can say that this is the best issue Grayson has done for some time, which means it almost works its way up to being mediocre.
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Loved the Oracle/Canary/Arsenal usage-- though it really *hurt* to see Dick Grayson clocking Roy Harper (again). I kind of like Ravager as a Nightwing protege whose bound to turn on him. Don't like the mafia princess at all. Actually, she's OK-- I just don't like the idea of her, I think.
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Three more issues, and then I can start getting Nightwing again.
2006 is looking up.
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dit and to.
Phils artwork is fine. It really grew on me on GA before the hired winnick and i quit it, but i just cant stomach the writing on NW anymore until they change writers.
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I like the route their taking Nightwing. This is his Hell, his torment, more so than the Tarantula. When Dick sees how wrong he's been acting, how far he's lost his way, he will recove, and we'll get to see the great hero he is.
I am digging the art, but I liked them on Green Arrow, so no surprise there. Very few have the skill to show motion like Hester or McDaniel. And Nightwing is all about motion. Devon nailed that right in all her interiews about this guy.
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Who the hell is Bruce Jones? Another writer with a name like a Batfamily character?
Uhhhh, this does not bode well.
So, any info on who this Bruce Jones is?
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Jones is currently writing the Vigilante miniseries. It's been very good so far. That mini is playing out like a psychological crime drama. If he writes NW like he's doing that series, it'll be fine. Bruce Jones on Vigilante
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Originally posted by rickshaw1:
So, any info on who this Bruce Jones is? He's the guy who drove Hulk into the ground with a "mystery" that lasted four years without a payoff.
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Bruce Jones also wrote a lot of great horror comics in the '70s and '80s. And he wrote Ka-Zar for Marvel in the '80s; (along with Moon Knight and Micronauts, the first direct market books), which I believe was Brent Anderson's first pro work.
I agree he lost direction a little on Hulk as it went on, but it really started strong the first 10 issues or so, imo. One thing to keep in mind when a title loses it's direction, is that it can happen for a number of reasons outside of the writer's control.
For example, I know a lot of people complained about the fact that about a half year went by on Hulk, where you almost never really saw the Hulk at all (personally, I liked that). Pressure can come down from a number of angles and force a writer to change course midstream.
I like Bruce Jones' work a lot.
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I take it it's official then that Jones has the gig?
Better go have a look at Newsarama.
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This ended surprisingly quickly. I'm left curious about what Rose Wilson is thinking, and what side of the 'fence' she'll end up upon.
I'm looking forward to a new take on the character, one that'll *build* him, instead of tearing him down, brick by brick.
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I believe they had to end this storyline sooner than they wished in order to fit it in with IC and "One Year Later". The next two issues will likely set that up.
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To Devin: Na na na na, na na naaaah na, heeey heeey, gooooodbye! Na na na na, na na naaaah na, heeey heeey, gooooodbye! Na na na na, na na naaaah na, heeey heeey, gooooodbye! Na na na na, na na naaaah na, heeey heeey, gooooodbye! Na na na na, na na naaaah na, heeey heeey, gooooodbye! Na na na na, na na naaaah na, heeey heeey, gooooodbye! Na na na na, na na naaaah na, heeey heeey, gooooodbye! Na na na na, na na naaaah na, heeey heeey, gooooodbye! Na na na na, na na naaaah na, heeey heeey, gooooodbye! 
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Y'know, I almost want to see Dick get replaced. Heheh, then how would you guys feel about the way he's been portrayed.
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His current portrayal would still suck, and I would continue to save a couple of bucks every month.
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What if it's a different Dick????
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Dick Cheney IS.... Wingnut! 
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NIGHTWING #116
Guess the infiltration of the Society plot got dropped. But did Dick Grayson? He don't look so hot on the last page. Will Chemo's radiation be the cause of Nightwing's death?
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You know, I used to think I overreacted to things, and then I see what Slade arranges here...
Taken on it's own, this issue had some good moments. Just don't stop to think about why Dick goes out of his way to try to save Blockbuster's lawyer and why he thought his plan to save Bludhaven had any hope of working. It's better that way.
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