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Yes, the images of Diana and Tom's trip to Themyscira were gorgeous.
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Originally posted by Mystery Lad:
Donna Troy makes a welcome appearance. Welcome in that she's wearing the black and white starfield outfit, rather than the unbecoming half Wonder Girl, half Troia look she's stuck with in TITANS. Wonder how she'll interact with the gorillas? Wow! Didn't know Donna appeared. I will have to pick this up. I thought she was treated awful in all the crossover mess and especially over in the horrid "Titans". Will Donna be a regular in WW? Donna is none of my all time favorites.
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Donna was in issue #23, but not in #24. I haven't heard anything about Gail making her a regular, but imagine she will pop up from time to time.
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#25-- Aaand that's a wrap!
Couldn't resist.
The issue really got going once the Queen of Fables created the arena 'contest'. Before that, there was some funny movie-related bits-- but not that funny, since I wouldn't be at all surprised if those were actual bits from Hollywood scripts.
I wonder what lies behind the 'centaurs and I never really got along' line. She seemed fairly chummy with Chiron not so long ago.
"In any arena, real of imagined-- I am INVINCIBLE!" Great line for Diana, I thought.
She even upstaged the Ape-as-critic who thought the script 'lacked a proper second act.' Hee-hee-hee! I know I'm repeating myself, but I love those teen apes. 'Where we will promptly consume them'. Hee-hee!
Scenes with WW and little girls are almost sacrosanct. It's always a nice thing to see, but I thought the subplot with the alchoholic mother and her daughters was a bit misplaced. Not gratingly, as it did reflect upon the WW movie plot.
I'm looking forward to next storyline, with the 'rise of the Olympians' and a new male Wonder Woman, whatever that's going to look like.
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Caught up on about five months of Wonder Woman reading. I thought the Beowulf/Stalker/Claw saga was probably the best Wonder Woman story I’ve read in about ten years. Everything about it was superb: the interaction between the characters, Diana trying to ‘re-find’ herself (both the real reason why and the metaphor), and ‘quest’ feel to the whole thing. It was awesome to see the Stalker for the first time since the 1970’s (at least that I’m aware of), and Claw is always interesting. I really enjoyed Beowulf more than anything and thought his chemistry with Diana was surprisingly fun and refreshing.
I’m bored to death by the ‘suitors’ Diana is always acquainted with, outside of Aquaman and the occasional flirtation with Batman (I *hate* when Superman and Diana are paired up like that), so Beowulf was cool.
The Nemesis/Diana relationship is cool for me thus far but I’m not sure I see this as a longterm thing. I like Nemesis, loved him since Suicide Squad, but as Diana’s paramour? Not sure.
Oh, I also love the Megalodons. They rock.
And Hippolyta is being used well too.
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Another fun romp, short and all about the action. These brief tales seemed to get overshadowed by the long arc; and that's a shame because they remind me what comics are all abour.
With just these two issues we get Diana kicking butt and having fun with her simian sidekicks. Her ferocity facing the Queen of Fables counters that soft side she used with the little girls. And then Gail's metatextual comments about waiting for a good WW movie...
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If I had more money this is the first comic I would add back to my collection. I really liked what Gail was doing here and I think it's a shame that she doesn't seem to be setting alight the charts as much as she should.
Wonder Woman is THE premiere female super-hero dammit! She should be a top-seller!!!
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Rise of the Olympian starts...
Gail opens this story with the DMA facing off against an ugly monster. It's enough to draw the WW out of Diana, and boy was she needed. The story is a bunch of hints and set up, and we get to meet a few more DMA agents on Diana's team.
The Greek Gods make an appearance, and Genocide makes an impressive debut.
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The return of the Olympian gods really has me curious. What exactly has happened to them and what will the consequences be?
Loved their return to a sadly vandalized Olympus-- the art was interesting. The ship they rode in on was a nice visual. The way the scene was written kept me curious about who was in it. When Zeus and co. emerged, I was surprised.
The Tom Tressor scenes were great, too. Nice to see his toughness and his protectiveness of the amulet. A lot of fans are apparently resistant to him as a love interest for Diana. Not me. I think they're great.
I'm less interested in Diana Prince's missions. I liked seeing Etta, but I'd have preferred an updated Holliday Girls to this little squad. Still, they're not bad- so I'll give 'em the benefit of the doubt. (missed the gorillas...)
Genocide was the least interesting part of the issue, to me. She was suitably dangerous and single-mindedly violent. Not my favorite thing in a villain, I guess.
I wonder, will the old Global Guardian character The Olympian appear in this storyline?
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Killing off ancient goddesses just isn't a good idea, I don't think. Kharmically (is that a word?)
I hope Athena doesn't die...
...this Pantheon seems much diminished. In need of some rising.
Which could also be said of Diana, as of this issue.
Apparently, the nature of WW's lasso will be a big component of this storyline. Hmmm.
Loved the cover- and Tom calling himself an Amazon... and Donna's answering glance over her shoulder.
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Donna and Cassie get some good air time this issue. They haven't been seen much in the title in the last couple of years. It's good to know they are still connected to Diana in some way.
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The stuff around the fight was great fun-- the three chickies in armor (gold, silver and bronze?)... the gorillas answering Diana's call to battle... the bits with Black Canary and Vixen...
The only thing missing is an absolutely engaging opponent. So far, Genocide is merely That Which Must Be Beaten. Why? I don't really know. What does Genocide want? I don't really know. And I'm not meant to. Genocide's mystery really isn't engaging my curiosity. Perhaps the revelation of her origin and purpose will.
I'm a tad worried about developments in the 'Manazon' camp. Jason of the Argonauts as Hippolyte's counterpart? Solicits have mentioned Achilles, haven't they?
Will choosing such storied names make the new champions of Zeus more or less palatable? I can see an argument on both sides.
I hope Diana's counterpart will have the benefit of his own history and personality. I wonder if Donna and Cassie and even Artemis will have counterparts?
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I've been loving Gail's run and the rise of the olympians is really kicking it for me. I like the sense of dread we get from Diana's narrative. I loved seeing the three Amazons fighting against Genocide, that was a nice visual, I also really loved the other plots going on. Action AND building for the future, that's almost unheard of these days.
But finding out that Steel is in Dr. Psycho's body (and vice versa) explained a lot, and a bit common, was a nice touch because now I want to see Steel kick the villains butt (but I don't know how he could do it). The mystery of the lasso still builds, and the Olympians really intrigue me. Jason huh? interesting, and Zeus' mission for them, also interesting.
I'm enjoying this a lot, it's one of my top two books (right up there with Green Lantern) great superhero action and lots of action with continuing build-up.
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Seeing the wonderful women armoured up and ready for battle was cool. Lopresti is right up there with the Dobsons when it comes to drawing incredible women.
The Sarge Steel story is making sense now. Gail put that one on a slow boil. And it really gave Cheetah a chance to show her teeth.
The Genocide fight is okay, but it seems as much a distraction to the readers as it is to Diana. With her occupied, she must not see the return of Zeus and his kin.
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WW #29: Losses fill the early pages-- Donna's apparently feeling the effects of a Genocide-wielded lasso, Rhanda (one of the white gorillas) is apparently dead (sob!) and Diana's reeling.
Diana V. Cheetah (great fight, I thought) and Zeus V. Kane Milohai and Manazons V. the U.S. Navy... a lot packed into the ORIGINS and OMENS shortened story.
Hippolyta appears in the O&O back-up, telling the bedtime story of Diana's creation to a hospitalized Tom Tressor.
I like the way these two characters relate; each makes the other more full and distinct, IMO.
The last page is a montage of future events, as most of the O&O back-ups have concluded this way. Among the glimpses: a pregnant, unidentified woman in Amazonion armor, Diana undersea, Tom walking away from Diana, possibly a Manazon tossing around a police car.
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#30... Genocide kills or almost kills Etta Candy, Zeus raises the 'historical' Achilles from the dead and names him his champion (I think- wonder if Patroclus is there, too?), Diana tears down the Secret Society's HQ in anger, threatens to or actually does cut off Cheetah's tail, expresses regret for killing Maxwell Lord...
Some nice art, the scene on the cover doesn't really happen yet, and Oh, yeah- Hippolyta summons the Amazons back to Themyscira by praying in a circle of swords. Phillipus is the first to respond. The Bana-Migdhalls (spelling?) are now considered full Amazons (I thought they already were?).
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WONDER WOMAN #31: Whoa-- when an explanation makes so much sense that you can't believe you didn't think of it all along, you know it's one that sits well with you.
Still, ugh. What a creepy fight the showdown between WW and <span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text"> her future dead body brought back in time and filled with the essence of Ares (I think) </span></span> will be!
I don't quite have a handle on The Olympian yet. Is he man-out-time warrior who's misguided by Zeus (who, in turn, is perhaps being influenced by, or even is, Ares?-- my conjecture), that might be seen as heroic eventually, or is he out and out villain? Or perpetual antagonist, I guess, rather than 'villain'?
Call me corny, but I like the prospect of him and his 'manazons' eventually teaming up with WW and the Amazons. I don't suppose there'd ever be a high level of trust there, but they've got pretty much everything in common.
Athena- I knew you couldn't keep a good goddess down. What is she planning?
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I've really gone off this arc despite the good work Gail's done in the past.
It feels as if this storyline is taking ages to get nowhere.
I was looking forward to Achilles / The Olympian but so far he hasn't done much at all. WW needs a decent male villain and I was hoping it would be him but he's been eclipsed by all this Genocide business.
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I'm loving this arc and this issue really hit it out of the park. The reveal was amazing and the way it was told (through Athena) was cool and really felt "epic". Also love Achilles, the scene where he talks to the U.N. was cool and I loved how it was laid out (the scene were he puts his hand up then closes it to halt the elephant thingy was just really well paced imo).
But what really got me was the opening pages, where she is visibly upset about what happened to Candy and concerned about Tom. People want Diana to be more human they didn't need to give her a secret identity, just let her be close to her supporting cast. She doesn't come across as some goddess on high caring about her subjects, she comes across as a woman very concerned about her friends.
Great stuff and I really loved this issue. And the reveal, wow, that was chilling.
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I like seeing Diana's response to the chaos around her- the fear at losing friends, her anger at her enemies, the warrior with no limits. (Cheetah's tail in my opinion is fair game!)
Things do seem to have moved a bit slow, but that's okay. Getting some Etta time, bringing in Steve Trevor- these are all good building points knowing Gail. Part of me wanted some follow up on Donna's response last issue, but Gail won't let that sit long.
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And teh throwdown with Genocide is messy. there's a lot of fisticuffs, even more property damage, an unsettling reveal of Diana's emotions, and even more fisticuffs.
We spend the issue in Diana's head. Her love for Nemesis isn't as romantical as we thought. And that's the most disappointing thing, seeing Diana be less than truthful.
Her resolve in battle is fitting for a warrior woman, and I think that's what sets her apart from most of the League. Taking back her lasso- man I was excited to see that.
And since this is a visual medium- Lopresti draws a beautiful book. His women are shapely and pretty without being babe-alicious.
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I agree about Lopresti's work-- it's a treat to look at it.
This was an exciting battle scene, though I'm glad to see the last(?) of Genocide.
The bit about Nemesis and the fact that she doesn't love him was a turn I didn't expect. Should drive the characters for awhile.
I liked that Achilles' instinct was to go and help Diana-- he *isn't* going to be an out and out villain. Zeus has obviously slipped a wheel or two.
Is Euphemus part of Achilles' group? Working for Ares? Or a separate Argonaut that's not involved in Zeus' plot?
Ares wants to marry Genocide? Ugh. Or does he mean that *Diana* is his 'future queen'?
Past time for the Olympians to take center stage in a storyline that is, after all, titled RISE OF THE OLYMPIAN.
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Lopresti's come a long way since Takion, that's for sure. Through no fault of his own, being associated with THAT clunker almost did him in. Glad to see he persevered and developed artistically into the treat we're seeing here.
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Takion... I collected that title. At least it was a cool looking character.
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#35- continues a fun team-up with Black Canary. If there can be multiple Batman/Superman books, why not one featuring two of the oldest female heroes in comicbooks?
I'd buy...
So that's who WW's patron-in-lieu-of-Zeus was... the father of Pele!
Made for a good uncloaking scene- though why Pele was at that club is rather murky. Best not to think about it too closely.
A romantic cliffhanger-- how do you want it to end?
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