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Okay I'm of the notion this super-team and specifically the new book deserves its own thread.

I'm gonna post a non-spoiler review and then throw in some spoilers (with warning) at the end.

NO SPOILERS

Highest possible reccomendation. We are treated to the earliest beginnings of 2 members of the legendary Squadron Supreme. Incredible Gary Frank artwork and a story that just makes you wanna see more more more!


SPOILERS FOLLOW HERE ~ BEWARE!!!!!

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This ain't your old-time SQUADRON SUPREME. This is a whole new quesadilla. We are treated to Hyperion's earliest days and it is a fascinating beginning... and then we are treated with a glimpse of The Whizzer's childhood. First clue that the MAX Squadron Supreme isn't the one we know and love: Stanley is black.

CONS of this not being "the" SS --

No possible interaction with the Marvel U.

PROS of this not being "the" SS --

a) We get back heroes that were previously lost to us (spoiler: NUKE is gonna be one of 'em based on the SKETCHBOOK included in the Special Edition -- and OMG wait 'til you see Power Princess *eyes POP!*)

b) We don't have to worry about Gru's previous SS work being destroyed or invalidated

In my opinion, the PROS outweigh the CONS.

I'm HYPED for this series! Once again, Marvel scores another title to my pull-list!

SQUADRON SUPREME ROLL CALL

A look back at what was and where the members stood when last we saw them... NOTE: If you have not read the 12-issue SQUADRON SUPREME series, the followup graphic novel DEATH OF A UNIVERSE and the NEW WORLD ORDER 1-shot, this list will contain spoilers!


HYPERION active as of New World Order

POWER PRINCESS active as of NWO

WHIZZER active as of NWO

DR. SPECTRUM active as of NWO

AMPHIBIAN active as of NWO

NIGHTHAWK 2 active as of NWO

SKYLARK/LADY LARK hospitalized in NWO

BLUE EAGLE deceased

GOLDEN ARCHER deceased

ARCANNA/MOONGLOW 2 inactive as of NWO

TOM THUMB deceased

NUKE deceased

NIGHTHAWK 1 deceased

--recruits from The Institute of Evil:

FOXFIRE deceased

DR. DECIBEL deceased

LAMPREY deceased

QUAGMIRE now on regular Marvel-Earth

APE-X discharged from duty; catatonic state

THE SHAPE hospitalized in NWO

--recruits that were 'Plants'

INERTIA deceased

REDSTONE deceased

MOONGLOW 1 inactive as of Death of a Universe

HAYWIRE moved to regular Marvel-Earth, now deceased

THERMITE hospitalized

--Other

SKRULLIAN SKYMASTER active as of NWO

i did think about getting this [ had a flick through it yesterday ]

it had a "Smallville" slant to the orgin .... is this a new twist to the character ??

with currently getting 20 titles a month, i thought this was one too many to add to the list ....

maybe i'll go and get it today ??

afterall LASH is good at INFLUENCING people !! i bought No Doubt's cd after he praised it so much ....

Matthew.

Thanks for the review, Lash! I'll try to get this this week!!!

Matthew-- as far as I can tell this is the first time we've ever been given ANY substantial backstory on a Squadron Supreme character... (ps/ did you LIKE the No Doubt cd?)

Jeffey-- I think you'll be glad you did.

FYI-- The SPECIAL EDITION contains a reprint of both AVENGERS 85 & 86, which I thoroughly enjoyed also!

Lash you mentioned the New World Order one shot. When did that come out? And how the hell have I wound up missing so many Squadron appearances?

*a quick check of the NWO 1-Shot*

Scott it is dated SEPT 1998 and it details the events of the Squadron returning to their OWN earth and what happened immedietely after... it follows the Squadron's stint in the early issues of Busiek's AVENGERS...

Basically, what it does is returns the Squadron to a 7-member status that mirrors the 'icon' JLA lineup that was the rage at that time...

Thanks Lash. Yet another to hunt down.

So does that mean the Avengers TPB "Supreme Justice" covers the appearance of the Squad in Busiek's Avengers (volume 3 wasn't it?). If so I'll try and pick that one up as well.

Probably so -- if it is by Busiek/Perez then definitely! I was elated to see the SS again in AVENGERS but I can't say I was thrilled with how they were handled there. Still, it is worth getting for the SS fan.

The SS also had many appearances in the old QUASAR series...

I think I've got all the old Quasar appearances and the original Avenger ones. Its the most recent ones, the mid-1990's, that I missed out on. I sorta dropped out of collecting and reading comic books after Caroline and I got married in 1992. Didn't want to scare her away.

One of my favorite subplots in QUASAR involved Her, the female version of Adam Warlock-- after being rejected by Warlock, she went looking for the ultimate mate. Hyperion was one of the candidates, IIRC. Fun stuff by the Gru... /

I had completely forgotten this was coming out! Now I gotta get to the comics shop and see if I can find it...

I'm bumming! My shop didn't have the special edition... just the regular one

Oh well. Not a bad first issue, although it didn't necessarily zip along. It did show a twist that you don't always see. I'll be interested to see where they go with this team.

The orginal mini is one of my all time favorite reads!!!

Cru--- I agree that SUPREME POWER # 1 was a non-"zippy" read... and that is fine with me!

I want to know the most minute details about this MAX Squadron Supreme (I almost want to refer to it as ULTIMATE Squadron Supreme-- and from the looks of things, that is what they are going for...) and that is gonna take some time to tell!

sorry to digress .... yeah !! i did like "Rock Steady" !!!

Matthew.

"Huh ... well... I guess Spot was kindof the right name after all..."

I'm surprised we didn't get any sketches of the new Whizzer since he appears in this issue.

So, what's with the barbed wire? Didn't they kinda figure out barbed wire is a piss-poor way of trying to fence in Hyperion? It may be there to keep others out, but the book seemed to indicate the barbed wire was for him.

Alien attackers? A twist on the Superman mythos for sure -- will the "Skrull" somehow be involved?

They didn't mention it yet, but I would think that the government's been studying his blood and DNA etc since he was a kid -- will anything come from it? I hope JMS at least addresses it.

Hey Lash if you're still watching this thread, is $25 too much to pay for Death of a Universe? It appears the book is rare and I can only find one copy on eBay. None of my on-line resources even offer it.

Scott, it is worth it! But you might find it cheaper if you hold off...

I think demand is high right now

You're probably right DB. Everyone wanting to cash in on the new series. I'll probably wait especially since I can get the TPB of the original series a lot cheaper than that.

Okay, just finished reading Supreme Power. Thumbs way up! Of course, this is Marvel though, so they'll probably sprock it up before much longer. But for now it'll definitely stay on my pull list.

I will post my opinion on this after I read it today. In fact, I will probably be doing several reviews this afternoon...

Read it last night and really enjoyed it Looking forward to the next issue!!!!

Is this series an ongoing or a mini?

I get the impression it is supposed to be an ongoing but with Marvel's Max line you never know.