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Re: The Rann/Thanagar War (SPOILERS!)
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Originally posted by Tamper Lad: My worst fear for the fate of one of the characters upon seeing the covers for IC 1 has been realized.
It wasn't even meaningful in terms of the plot. UGH. What kind of @)(&$ is that?!?! Crap, I tell you. C-R-A-P. What is this - intergalactic housecleaning 101? Aren't the stars large enough to fit all these characters for later use? What's the point of gunning them down? oh, right, for an INFINITE CRISIS using a more finite number of characters sigh
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I'm not going to get this for another week at least, so if anyone wants to spoil it without messing it up for anyone else, feel free.
Pretty sure who it is, but I won't like it either way, since I thought all the characters appearing here were cool.
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SPOILER: Hawkwoman - Shayera Thal
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waaaaa! But to be fair, the DC staff has been warning us that many of us would not like many things happening starting now til the Infinite Crisis is over.
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Right! It's the Graduation Day mentality. Alienate as many of your existing fanbase as you can so that they don't want to buy your books of ever-decreasing characters!
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Thank you, Gary.
My comment above the spoiler stands.
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Oy, what a disappointment--
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though I would'nt be a bit surprised if Shayera reappears in #6 or later on in INFINITE CRISIS.
The nature of the villain... the 'shooting the body into the sun'... the Hawk reincarnation thing... maybe we haven't seen the last of one of DC's untapped gems.
The one good thing about the development is that it returns Blackfire to outright villainy. She was an uneasy fit in the 'shades of gray' category, IMO.
I'm looking forward to seeing the Hawks pound her into some pavement or other. And then her sister, Starfire can guest-star to get a few well-deserved licks in, as well. Oh yeah-- R'yander (does he get the apostrophe?-- it doesn't look right) should show up, too.
Nice art-- I really like Tigorr, here.
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The nature of the villain... the 'shooting the body into the sun'... the Hawk reincarnation thing... maybe we haven't seen the last of one of DC's untapped gems. Here's what got me. Shayeira was ONLY a thanagarian and Kendra is supposed to be the reincarnation of Shayera, right? So why did she tell Carter she would return? She shouldn't follow the rules of the Hawks as she was never a reincarnation. There's something up here but I can't quite put my finger on it. Jamie
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Stupid, stupid death for two reasons: -- We all saw it coming. Kendra makes her supurfluous. -- It was a stupidly written death. She flies at Komand'r and gets blasted. No drama whatsoever.
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Originally posted by Stratum: So why did she tell Carter she would return? She shouldn't follow the rules of the Hawks as she was never a reincarnation.
There's something up here but I can't quite put my finger on it.
Jamie She will return, in a series written by Messner-Loebs. (let it go, it's my fantasy)
Just spouting off.
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Maybe I'm in denial, but I'd be pretty surprised if she doesn't return in #6 or in IC.
Maybe she'll be on the reincarnation fast track. They wouldn't just leave all that Katar/Carter confusion there with no follow-up, would they?
Or maybe Charley'll end up brain dead over in HAWKMAN and Shayera will take over *his* body??!!!
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Originally posted by Mystery Lad: Maybe she'll be on the reincarnation fast track. They wouldn't just leave all that Katar/Carter confusion there with no follow-up, would they?
I think they might. Indeed, that could be the point of the death.
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maybe they'll bring her back as a servant of Ominar Syn (whatever his name is - i'm too annoyed to check the book) as his 'new' Valkyior (an odd title for the now deceased character from the Planet Heist mini) then change her spots when confronted with the Hawks/nth metal ??? uh huh and maybe Matter-Eater Lad could save the day by eating this entire story
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What Andy just wrote reminded me of the Silver Age Hawkman when Gardner Fox and Murphy Anderson were collaberating, wasnt there a story where a woman (whether she was alien or not) with a winged head-dress, wanted to ask the Hawks to help her?
I hope those with long memories can help
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I agree with the pointless death that made no sense. Makes me wonder if Kendra will somehow be merged. Kinda like Katar was in the previous Hawk book. Could happen.
Looking for Earth Prime.
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Why do I have issue 6 of this book already? It wasn't on Diamond's shipping list. Did stores here get it a week early by mistake? I'm not spoiling anything if I tell you just like the other minis there is a cliffhanger and the last page says... to be continued in IC 1.
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I always thought Hawkwoman and Hawkgirl were the same soul...just splintered of sorts. Thus Kendra never remembered her past lives, etc. I know it doesn't make much sense but this comics! Plus reincarnation isn't an exac science.
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Gross. Not a fan. Boo. Etc. Least favorite mini... even with Kyle.
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Bah- no last-minute save for Shayera. The Rann-Thanagar War remains my least favorite of the various IC lead-ins. Nice art, though. Even with the sameness of many of the characters.
However, its saving grace is that it has returned Blackfire to the roster of workable DC villainesses.
A storyline featuring Rann, Thanagar, Throneworld, Captain Comet and the Hawks really should've been loads of fun. It wasn't horrible, I don't think. But it could've been so much more...
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I agree it could have been more, but I still rather enjoyed it, unnecessary death aside. The art was great, maybe the best of the IC minis, and I liked the epic feel of it.
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ok, i droped this book circa issue 3. but are you telling me they brought back my wise cracking shayera just to kill her....
excuse me i must go have a lester spifany moment.
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Yeah, DB, that's exactly what happened. I like Kendra, but if I had a choice between her and Shayara, I'd go Thanagarian.
Dan
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Y'know, after reading this whole thing I really couldn't say what the heck happened. There was a lot of fighting and Hawkwoman died. Beyond that, it's all a big jumble. I suppose if Gibbons wanted to convey the chaos of war, he suceeded cuz I thought it was a mess.
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Originally posted by DrakeB3004: Y'know, after reading this whole thing I really couldn't say what the heck happened. There was a lot of fighting and Hawkwoman died. Beyond that, it's all a big jumble. I suppose if Gibbons wanted to convey the chaos of war, he suceeded cuz I thought it was a mess. Yea, 'twas a most beautiful mess, which did please me greatly.
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It was a'ight. I rank it above DONNA TROY and on par with OMAC PROJECT but far, far below VU and DoV.
What's important about it is that it has shown DC a book featuring it's space-cast can sell.
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