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Bingo. And thus it appears that 98% of all German characters in comics these days are Nazis.

Evil Brits? I guess the accent does sound evil. But I don't remember many evil brits in the theaters.

Who are the evil brits? Aside from KIng George the Third

Corporations are legitimate bad guys, as well!

Politicians, too.

More and more, though, it's hero-turned-villain that seems to fuel both DC and Marvel.

Hmm. Are there any German-born superheroes? If not, the spirit of balance would seem to be in need of a little appeasement.

I actually really like Jorge's idea of a Nazi-legacy trying to attone for his grandpa!

Yeah, Germans get a raw deal in comics. We've gone backwards at times. In the mid-60's, when Enemy Ace, a German WWI pilot that actually *fought* the US was portrayed as heroic--that was genuine progress. Now if a character is German, there's bound to be a Nazi connection somehow.

Businessmen are genuinely portrayed as evil in comics too. That's so juvenile its ridiculous.

I'm with Eryk on the Nazis. If you're giving me a Nazi, I demand something that sets this character apart.

C'mon! Businessmen are evil! What if they are a businessman and a politician? Like a CEO of a blood-oil company and VP of the USA? That's like evil x2.

Hmm... I dunno. Are they a Nazi too?

Thanks EDE. I don't mind Neo-Nazi's. Infact, I think it's a cool idea. But don't make them generic. Give me a good reason. And I wouldn't mind some counter-balance of a German or German-American hero.

I know its not a 'real Nazi' in the traditional sense and more of a modern day neo-Nazi, but Edward Norton's portrayal of a neo-Nazi in "American History X", which has been on TV a lot lately, is a brillant example of some serious depth given to the topic of Nazism in its most current forms. I wouldn't mind reading about something like that applied to comic book genres.

This is an excellent idea guys. In fact, so excellent, its been done . The original premise of Peacemaker is based on this notion. His father (now grandfather I believe) was a Nazi-scientist who did unspeakable things under the Third Reich and he wanted to atone for his crimes. But you're both right. Its a pretty excellent premise. Added to super-heroism, its pretty high-concept.

[sarcasm]Now that's just too far-fetched [/sarcasm]

You're yanking our chain(ey)...

Bah you all know very well that the first place a Super-Powered Nazi Businessman (Evil goes without saying) would attack in the modern world is Hollywood because those striking writers keep portraying Businessmen as evil in all media.

And yes EDE those Burbank studios are on the list.

btw, when I said I don't mind neo-nazis you guys know I meant...as comic book VILLAINS! just wanted to make it clear.

Marvel has done a great job with Baron Zemo. No matter how hard he tries he's always...bad. But atleast he's trying.

God, Germans DO so get a bad rap! I remember back in high school a friend of mine made friends with a lot of the exchange students. In jest he would salute the German one with the ol' seig heil. The German guy let my friend know it was not cool.

We certainly could use more representation in the media that clarifies that German does not equal Nazi. I certainly can't think of too many non-Nazi German characters in popular film, TV, fiction and, certainly, comics.

New Characters! Woo-hoo! [/sarcasm]

Would it be too much to ask for some stories featuring the old new characters? And by feature, I mean using their powers and doing something. I want to see how Cyclone actually handles a super-villian. And more of Thom than just comic relief.

That is not to say I didn't like this issue. I like the new Amazing Man. I could have done without Lance and Black Lightning's other daughter (codename: Spark? Static? Zapper?)

Black Lightning's other daughter? ugh. And sadly with a cast this big some characters tend to act one-dimensional at times. Same prob with the Legion.

I haven't read it yet but I like they are using new blood.

I thought it was a great issue and I love what is happening. I love the new characters and I can see how everything will fit in.

New Johns interview with a small mention that the Justice Society Infinity would be seen by mid-year.

I agree with everyone who's a bit weary of new characters added so closely together. I don't think even the LSH expanded this much this quickly. However, I do think some sort of split is ahead.

Also, I'm just not enamored with the Kingdom Come stuff making its way into the DCU proper. I liked KC as a finite mini-series, but I don't have any desire to see Gog, Magog, Red Robin etc.

Looks like that's what's coming- or is already here, though.

I think the art is a tad better than the last couple of months' stories... though bits like the histories of the new Amazing Man and Lance whatever-his-name were enjoyable.

The new Judomaster bores me silly, however.

I'm *much* more interested and invested in Maxine, Tomcat and Damage and want to read more about them. Not to mention my favorite JSAers Sandman and Obsidian. I think Sandy, at least, is a full-fledged member- not so sure about Todd.

I *really* want to see some stories featuring those two.

An Injustice Society appearance is overdue, too.

I read it and I like it. I always thought the title needed more new blood. Becareful what I wish for BUT I am still enjoying it.

We now know there will be a another JS title (JSInfinity). I am guessing we will see lots of characters there. I'm personally not a big fan of Alan Scott. My favorite characters have been the newer guys. So I don't mind new characters.

Loved the page with all the potentinal members. Aquaman NEEDS a Geoff Johns revamp! Spidey didn't need OMD/BND but Aquaman certainly does. Hopefully Geoff will do something similiar to what he did with Hawkman.

Hey, I think all the new blood might be so that when the old timers go back to Earth-2 at the end of Final Crisis there's still someone around to claim the Justice Society title.

Just a thought...

What the heck was Hercules doing here? Doesn't line up with his appearance in the WONDER GIRL mini which just concluded at all.

I know there's the slain gods subplot humming along, but he just seemed a poor choice. If his motivation had carried through from the WG mini, would I still feel the same way? Not sure...

Gog and Magog... I think this'll read better once the storyline's over. I don't think it's 'bad'-- I just do not feel the enthusiasm for the Kingdom Comeization of the JSA or DCU in general.

Did we even know that Black Lightning had another daughter?

Her electronic... disadvantage is interesting. I hope she interacts with Citizen Steel. Their limitations could create a common bond.

Who's the purple head at the end? Are we supposed to recognize him?

Again, I'm left eager to read stories or even scenes featuring Sandman, Obsidian, Hourman and Liberty Belle, GL, etc.

I lament the cancellation of the Classified series, as that would've been a good place for more JSA character studies. Perhaps the rumored second team will create room in this title...

I don't understand Black Lightning's daughter's inclusion in the JSA. BL wasn't affiliated with the JSA, was he?

Re: Black Lightning's daughter

It seems like they're really going for a Kingdom Come feel to the title lately. I think she's just supposed to represent that second generation of heroes that showed up in KC.

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Maxine's costume, including the leggings... has totally grown on me.