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This one wasn't exciting as the first two. A nazi team of supervillains? eh.

Tomcat can turn into a were-cat? eh.

Cyclone? cool. I can do without those socks though. Red/green is brave color combo for superheroes.

Wow. I must remember to use these precognitive powers for good...

Did anyone else find it odd that as the JSA pieces together what is going on, they immediately rush off to save Liberty Belle & Stripsey but never give a second thought to Wildcat. I realize that he doesn't fit the "patriotic mystery man" image but still.

Another thing that bothered me. Does DC have some kind of massacre fixation? For the past few years it seems, all they've been doing is killing off characters. The DCU is awash in the blood of it's former heroes and their families. Enough already!

Well, I was under the impression that the killers were only going after the heroes that patterned their identities on the USA in some way. I was surprised when Savage came after Wildcat.

I haven't noticed a lot of massacres, but I don't read a lot of comics these days.

I thought the whole, "Clearly, they must be going after patriotic-themed heroes!" smacked of Superfriends-style deduction.

The Nazi villains seemed really generic and uninteresting, as far as I'm concerned.

I don't know... this title's not really doing that much for me.

3 was lacking... but I'm still very into this series.

Vandal Savage is a very appropriate villains, and it makes sense that he's the one behind it all.

There's a reason latter-day Nazis aren't used very often as villains anymore; they're very passe. Only a book like JSA with strong Golden Age roots could make it work, but it needs to do better.

I'm lukewarm on Tom's shapeshifting just yet, but I'll try to keep an open mind.

*choke!* I hate when my friends aren't as into a comic as I am!

I think the team needs a German member to offset the Nazi thing. That would be cool. The White Rose?

Ooh! I like the idea of a Nazi legacy who joins the JSA to attone for the sins of his/her grandparents!

There just needs to be some more background to these guys than just "some Nazis show up". Like... give 'em a hidden city in the Alps and a robot with the brain of Joseph Goebbels or something!

The White Rose was the name of a group of germans in Germany that were anti-nazis during WWII. They all got executed. And there is a film that has been nominated for an oscar in the best foreign film category about it. Sophie Schnool: The Last Hours I think it's called. Sounds cool.

Anyways that is why I like the White Rose name and the entire idea of a german battling generic nazi villains.

I think Jorg and Eryk's ideas are actually really good. When Nazi's show up in comics these days, there needs to be more to it, whether an opposing German perspective or some far-out sci-fi concept.

Haven't read #3 yet, but am looking forward to it!

I got the 1st 2 issues because I've always had a soft spot for the Justice Society (even though I've rarely read a good JS story -I did like the Power Girl/Psycho pirate storyline) wasn't too impressed but I thought I'd give it another shot with #3. Even though I'm a bit intrigued by the Starboy thing, I will not be picking up another issue. It reads like a Justice League from the 70s but with tons more gratuitous violence. Cheesy dialog, predictable and /or embarrassing story lines (Wildcat's son turning into a real Wild Cat? Nazi villains? Gimme a break!) and super-plasticy art just ain't gonna do it for me. Sorry, but I really don't get what everyone likes about this one.

I'll ditto EDE, Jorg and Cobie. We've seen too much of these Nazis already without any mitigating factors to get past that, "Nazis? oh, give me a break!" feeling.

I think I'll pick up #4 to compete the first arc, but as of now I doubt I'm sticking around for the JLA/JSA crossover.

I guess that, like UL, I like the JSA as characters, but a lot of JSA stories, especially the more modern ones, just don't do anything for me. This whole "legacy" thing just seems a really forced way of trying to fit them into the current DCU. Part of the appeal of the JSA for me was always the fact that they were set an alternate Earth, where Quebec was independent and Batman was dead and stuff. That's part of what made them so much cooler than the JLA. Oh, and the whole fighting in World War II thing.

I'll keep reading, but I agree with what you said.

And when the JSA was on Earth-2, they were the premiere superhero team. They didn't "compete" with the Justice League.

The same can be said for Superman & CAptain Marvel.

My only major complaint is how some of the scenes at the Heywood massacre were really graphic - like when the speedster tore the woman and child to bits. Bleah! I guess there need to be casualties, but do they have to be so bloody?

maybe that's Johns way of ensuring no one will retcon them. like he did with Green Lantern, or any number of the Green Lantern Corp.

yeah, I know it was supposed to be a cool scene. but I found myself laughing go figure, I can accept gaudy costumes, but a guy changing into a were-cat(?) felt over-the-top.


as for the Nazi bad guys, well, I guess they are the equivalent of the the top hat wearing, long mustache twirling, tying ladies to the railroad tracks version of instant recognizable bad guy.

I don't suppose the LSH has ever fought Nazis have they?

In one of the coolest LSH stories ever, they fought Hitler in Superboy's body!

Finally read # 3 and MY biggest complaint was Maxine's hideous red/white striped leggings! Those need to be changed, STAT! Either solid red or while, or either color with ONE colored stripe at the top, please.

I personally am enjoying the scum-sucking Nazis and find them fitting for any JSA story. Can't wait for them to get their comeuppance.

And the mastermind is Vandal Savage, also fitting. I thought Tom the werecat looked scarycool!

I will agree that this issue wasn't as good as the previous 2, but it was still good. And I *LOVE* the "White Rose joins the JSA" idea of Jorg and EDE.

yeah she looks like a Christmas decoration.

As much as my eyes were drawn straight to the leggings my first thought was "Sneakers?" at least give her some boots.

I'm guessing she might switch costumes. Maybe she can be like the Wasp and try new costumes all the time.

Remember who's legacy she's filling...

Your costume has to be ugly to live up to that Golden Age Style.

the red and white leggings reminded me of the ones the Wicked Witch of the East wears in the 'Wizard of Oz' !! not sure if it's a nod that, after all her character is called CYCLON !! which if what caused the house to fall on the Witch of the East !!

Matthew.