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Darn. You beat me to the punch, Blockade Boy. Good for you! Personally, I was gonna ask: if a hummingbird...ah, y'know: the question from Monty Python's Search for the Holy Grail movie. 
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Yeah this is all fun but if the title is called Adventure Comics again...i won't be happy. I like LOSH. I started digging the logo even!
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Originally posted by Nightcrawler: 
Well, after sleeping on it and deciding that since the book is supposed to be ongoing since ADVENTURE COMICS #247, I'm adding the LOST/WORLDS series to the mix. Also, since both Tales and Legionnaires added much to the mythos, we'll include them as our bi-weekly years. Therefore, the answer to HWW's question (for me) is:
[b]LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES #622 (OCT 2005) [/b] I'm really impressed!! This is one of those things that I would have liked to have known, but never wanted to even try adding it up, so thank you GARY for doing it!
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Originally posted by Barry Kitson: Hi Guys
the excellent Mr.Wacker and I were hoping you could help us answer something....
If LSH had continued in Adventure Comics with no breaks from the end of the 'Tales of the Legion' numbering - what issue # would we be at now (October cover date)?
All help gratefully received! A question for Barry and Mr Wacker, Is there some sort of renumbering conspiracy in the works?
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Hmm... don't forget that v2 was originally Superboy's book...
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My speculation theory about this is that at some point the Legionnaires are going to mention a Legion comic in a story and they wanted to refer to something in LSH #9 without saying LSH #9.
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Originally posted by googoomuck: Originally posted by Barry Kitson: [b] Hi Guys the excellent Mr.Wacker and I were hoping you could help us answer something.... If LSH had continued in Adventure Comics with no breaks from the end of the 'Tales of the Legion' numbering - what issue # would we be at now (October cover date)? All help gratefully received!
Is there some sort of renumbering conspiracy in the works? [/b]More likely they will refer to it in the comic since the Legionnaires are such comic fanatics!
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I've been off board for a few days, so I didn't see the answer to my challenge until now.
622, it is!
Excellent work, Gary, in figuring out the answer as well as all possible permutations. I bow before your scholarship!
I'm all for including the four-issue reprint series for two reasons. One, that's the series with which I discovered the Legion, and two, X-MEN also reverted to reprints back then while keeping its original numbering intact.
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Does this numbering calculations include:
Legionnaires 3?
Legion: The Science Police?
Secrets Of The LSH?
Legion of Substitute Heroes Special? (I just threw that in for fun)
any of the LSH Secret Files?
the supporting stories from the Superboy series before it became Superboy Featuring the LSH/Superboy & the LSH?
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Well all we were looking for was the numbering had it continued from the last original Tales Of The Legion issue back in 1985...but all this other stuff is fun isn't it!
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354--Tales Of The LSH (formerly LSH s2/formerly SLSH/formerly Superboy)
63--Baxter Series
81+"0"+"1000000"--SW6/Reboot Legionnaires
125+"0"+"1000000"--5YG/Reboot LSH
38--DnA Legion
12--Legion Lost
6--Legion Worlds
I could be off but I reckon the count would be around #683.
Now if you added the 10 issues and the one coming out this coming Wednesday, then the count would be #694.
And just for kicks, adding the suggested titles from above in my previous post not included...
Secrets Of The LSH--4
Legionnaires 3--4
Legion: The Science Police--4
brings my issue count to #706.
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oh...just remembered the reprint mini-series that everyone considers to be LSH series 1...another 4 =>#710
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Originally posted by numberonelegionfan:
354--Tales Of The LSH (formerly LSH s2/formerly SLSH/formerly Superboy)
Since the Legion didn't become co-stars of SUPERBOY until # 197, that 354 number is misleading. 354-197=157 for the actual count of Legion issues in that series. And if we add the ten backup stories from # 172 to 195, that brings the total to 167.
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By the way, I conducted an experiment of my own. While Gary's tally adds up every Legion series that has been produced, I decided to see what would happen if LSH had been published continuously in one monthly series since April 1958. According to my calculations, we'd be at issue # 571 for October 2005 (12 issues per year times 47 years plus seven months).
What I find interesting is where some Legion milestones would have fallen in that mega-series, if they had still been published at around the same time. For example, the second Legion story (ADV. # 267) would not appear until LSH # 20 (Dec. 1959). I leave it to others to speculate what the intervening 18 issues might have been like.
Some other highlights from the first two decades by issue number:
29 - Supergirl's first tryout (Aug. 1960)
38 - Supergirl joins, as does Brainiac 5 (May 61)
39 - Mon-El first appears (June 61)
52 - Ultra Boy first appears (July 62)
58 - Lightning Lad dies (Jan. 63)
66 - Lightning Lad revived (Sep. 63)
71 - Dream Girl first appears (Feb. 64)
94 - Triplicate Girl killed by Computo (Jan. 66)
99 - Karate Kid, Princess Projectra and Ferro Lad join (July 66)
[This ties in neatly with the 100th issue, which would have contained the second part of that story.]
107 - Ferro Lad dies (Feb. 67)
123 - Mordru first appears (June 68)
Also noteworthy: Issue numbers in the '70s correspond very closely to the issue numbers of the Legion's run in SUPERBOY -- and they get closer as time goes on:
183 - ERG-1 (Wildfire) first appears (Jun. 73 - SUP 195)
191 - Wedding of Bouncing Boy and Duo Damsel (Feb. 74 - SUP 200)
197 - Invisible Kid dies (Aug. 74 - SUP 203)
229 - Dawnstar first appears (Apr. 77 - SUP 226)
231 - Chemical King dies (June 77 - SUP 228)
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Here's something I'm kinda curious about...what if all the LSH stories were published in a continuous run except whenever there was a timeline change, at which point a new series was begun from #1? So, restarting from the Crisis, from the Mordruverse, from the Glorithverse, from Zero Hour, and from the WaK kickoff? (I'm ignoring the minor timeline reboot in the Universe Ablaze crossover.) How many issues would each timeline's Legion have run?
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Originally posted by Jorg-EM:
My head hurts now. yeah me too I just recently took two Advils. yooowww! ouch!! *sob*
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I forgot about this thread. Thanks for the bump!
That would have been a wonderful series, HWW.
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I bet this all has something to do with #15!!!
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I bet this all has something to do with #626!
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Seems to me they went with a different count to get the #568 for issue #15.
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Originally posted by Nightcrawler:
And actually the last original story, #325 had a cover date of July 1985, but you're right that the number would still come out to be #568.
Well, it's a little puzzling, because #568 was apparently the October issue.
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Maybe they took off the "4" that Gary originally added in on the first page of this thread... hmmmm. I can never keep the series straight, I just keep buying the next one that comes out.
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