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Re: JL UNLIMITED KICKS TOTAL FREAKIN' ASS
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I thought the episode was pretty flat and extraordinarily predictable. The only saving graces of the episode were the big cast scenes (I could have sworn I saw the backside of Isis) and the cameo at the end and the incentive it provided.

Other than that, I questioned Batman's conversation with Green Arrow. I just don't see Batman as a recruiter for the League. The writers definitely missed that one. They missed alot of little physics details too. Normally I don't mind this as it is comic book heroes after all, but there were just so many of them that they kept shocking me out of the episode.

I tell you what, if it wasn't for how well the cameo appearance at the end worked, I might not have watched another episode of the show for at least another week.


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Seems to me that Batman and Green Arrow have pretty much the same mindset about the type of crime that they fight. Who better than Batman, then, to show Green Arrow the benefits of working alongside the League?


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While I haven't seen many eps of the first Justice League cartoon one thing bothered me about this new approach. I HATE mixing computer generated scenes with regular animation. The shots of the Javelin and the Watchtower, to me, were just awful.

I don't recall the previous JL cartoon mixing the computer generated images in like that. I hope it is very limited or not used at all in future episodes or I may just give this series a pass.

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I hate to tell you, but apparently all the animation of the Watchtower and Javelin this year are CGI. It seems like a bit of a mish mash to me too.

I thought the ep itself was pretty good, though I was semi-delirious with exhaustion. (We were up late at the matlock house decorating our daughter's birthday cake.) They were able to sketch the characters with just enough personality to get by. Captain Atom getting split open was kind of a neat reference to Kingdom Come, though I was glad he didn't get bumped off and it seemed like they were borrowing a little from Wildfire with him too. Most bizarre cameo had to be Vibe. I mean, Vibe?!?

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Hmm. I thought the animation was faboo. Is it CGI that makes it possible to have this JLU 'toon (and eventually, a LEGION 'toon)?


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Most bizarre cameo had to be Vibe. I mean, Vibe?!?
As lame as he was, his appearance made sense since they were showing various incarnations of the League - Vixen, Gypsy and Steel from JLA Detriot were also there and they also threw in most of the JLI lineup with Fire & Ice, Blue & Gold, Crimson Fox, Metamorpho and Rocket Red.

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Originally posted by Spellbinder:
Seems to me that Batman and Green Arrow have pretty much the same mindset about the type of crime that they fight. Who better than Batman, then, to show Green Arrow the benefits of working alongside the League?
I thought about this a little bit, and I'm still not seeing it. Maybe I'm missing something from a few shows that I've missed (For the record Starcrossed is about the only one I haven't seen and/or taped; I was on vacation at the time and just missed it).

Batman rejected initial membership in the League and then insulted them pretty well with a condescending, "Call me when you need me, and you will need me" line.

I'd think Batman would respect GA's need to be a loner and dealing with the types of crimes and criminals that he deals with. Whether or not Batman feels some type of kinship with Green Arrow would be irrelevant to the Batman I know. It's not like he's trying to get Nightwing to join.

"If you need help, you know where to find us. And don't even think about shooting someone with that bow and arrow, or I'll come looking for you." That's more in line with what Batman would have said to Green Arrow, not the "come fight the big monsters with us" line that we got. Anybody else saying that line but Batman and it works. It was just too far out of character.


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Well the newest episode was an adaption of Alan Moore's "For the Man that has Everything". I've never read the story but I thought it was a pretty good episode. Just like last week, I have a feeling that this would have been much better as an hour. I read a summary of the basis afterwards & FYI don't expect to see the flaws to Kal's "greatest desire" in this ep.


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I napped through Sat's episode and forgot aout the rerun Sunday!

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It featured Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman, fighting a big villain.

Seems that the opening sequence featured clips from that episode, which is why we saw so much of Supergirl in that episode's opening sequence.


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Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman? Justice League Unlimited my hairy arse!!


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The villain was Mongul, a big yellow space-dictator type. He was featured on JL before in a story in which Superman was forced into being some kind of gladiator. In the comics I mostly remember him as the b-villain in the "rebirth of Superman" stories.

The ep. itself was okay, not spectacular but not bad, though I guess if I had read the original story I might have had more of a reaction. I think I'm already hooked on the "guest stars" thing - seeing just the big three left me sort of restless.

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As someone who read the original story, I was bored. Been there read that. The only different was that Robin (Jason Todd) was in the comic book version. They could have had him in the episode as well.

I was disappointed that there wasn't any other heroes.


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Well, after watching some of the Superfriends marathon last weekend on Boomerang, it was kinda cool seeing a wWonder Woman that could actually fight like a powerhouse smile


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I liked seeing the ol' invisible plane too. I can't remember if it's appeared on Justice League before.

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I'm dumbfounded that they chose to focus on the BIG 3 in the **second** episode of JLU.

Way to disappoint the fans of the UNLIMITED aspect of JLU, DC.

I'm glad I missed it.


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#464985 08/09/04 03:17 PM
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It was ok, but yeah, I also missed seeing some guest stars (at least this early on). I can understand them wanting to do a "Big 3" story since they hadn't done one, but I prefer stories that somehow show their differences/similarities and uses that to explore what makes them tick. Seeing them beat on Mongul wasn't as interesting.

Nice to "see" Dana Delaney return as Kal's wife, which was a nice nod to Lois.

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I get the feeling that this last episode was a leftover from last season. Something else else that was half in the can before they even started working on JLU. Why else would you focus on just the old timers this early in the series?

I'm looking forward to seeing a bit of the larger team in action, especially the Booster Gold episode that's coming up in a couple of weeks. He was one of my favorite characters when I first started reading comics years ago. It'll be fun to see their take on him.

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BTW, no Blue Beetle in the big group shot in the first episode? What's up with THAT?!?

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Originally posted by Loser Lad:
BTW, no Blue Beetle in the big group shot in the first episode? What's up with THAT?!?
It's some kind of rights issue. Beetle won't be available for the series at all which is a bummer.

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That SUCKS! I didn't really think rights would be a problem since Captain Atom and the Question (other Charlatan-derived characters) are there.

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Just d/led & watched FtMWHE. And I have to say, I liked this a hellavalot better than the comic version. This one, you can believe that Supes wouldn't want to leave "Krypton" behind. Plus Bats watching Chill get hit again... and again... and again is much more an expression of who he is than some nebulous fantasy with him and a wife & kids (If there's one JLAer who would rule the Earth with an iron fist, it's Batman). And, after the beating she gets in both versions, better WW gets to stop Mongol than Todd.


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#464992 08/10/04 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by Loser Lad:
That SUCKS! I didn't really think rights would be a problem since Captain Atom and the Question (other Charlatan-derived characters) are there.
I wonder if it has to do with the fact that the Blue Beetle, unlike the other Charltan characters, was originally owned by Fox, and then purchased by Charltan.

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That could be it.

The Blue Beetle has appeared in other media already, if memory serves, and could have his rights tied up. Even though Charlton created their own version of the character, that might not matter.


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