Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Long Live the Legion! LSH at Baltimore

It could be a screw up...I've thought that myself.

But the reason I am looking forward to it instead of dreading it is because Mark Waid wrote Mon-El into the Legion and Geoff Johns wrote the Mon-El story in Action #10. And they came out almost simultaneously....and it's not like Mark and Geoff weren't talking at that time...they were working on Countdown together.

I think the paradox is by design...and even it isn't they probably aren't going to go public with the screw up.

If it was a screw up, and screw ups do happen, even to comic book creators...hopefully they'll find a positive solution...

The paradox with Mon-El is not new. I wonder what Mon-el in the Phantom Zone thought when he saw himself, Superboy, Duo Damsel & Shadow Lass appear from the future in Adventure 369-70?

It probably gave him a sense of joy that one day he would be freed. That's what I always thought.


This isn't the same paradox...this paradox is what seems to be the same Mon-El, appearing in Legions from 2 different worlds. Since Mon-El was actually immaterial at the time of the Mordru story...the typical comic book science of a character being unable to be two places at once doesn't really apply...his younger self was an immaterial ghost.

This 2 Legion thing is a whole new world of paradox, literally.

For all we know, the Phantom Zone is like the Bleed, intersecting all the worlds of the multiverse. Mon could have been released from (and returned to) the PZone in Waid's version and then released into the Lightning Saga version. Same person, different continuities, very interesting concept. He could well be the only DCU hero that knows the truth about all 52 worlds in the mutltiverse.

Phantom Zone like the Bleed - that's a great idea, Vee!

Damn, damn, damn, damn, damn !

Just got back home from a big u-turn on the Baltimore-Washington Parkway. My nine year old, in her "S" logo t-shirt to match mine, got sick in the car when we were about 15 minutes away from the convention.

I had planned for a year to take her with me to meet Barry and get him to sign JLA Year One for her. It was the only Barry Kitson work I knew of that was age-appropriate for her and of interest to her, and nice alternative to the toonverse comics she reads now.

I may try to go to Baltimore in the morning, but that's a pretty unlikely.

Barry -- hope you're coming back in 2008!

Sorry to hear that Lad Boy. I hope your daughter is OK.

she's fine. thanks.

Yeah, sorry that happened.

I actually had a lot of fun this year. I was able to talk with Shooter for a bit and have him sign one of my Adventure issues. I also got a Matter-Eater Lad sketch, not to mention two great prints of Legion work from Dennis Calero.

Barry's table had a line that seemed a mile long, so I wasn't able to drop by and meet with him. I also saw that Greg Laroque was there.

Any nuggets of the Shooter talk you might wanna share with us, ultrajo?

Nothing that hasn't been said already. I definitely think he was surprised when I pulled out "The Ghost of Ferro Lad” issue to be signed. It was interesting to listen to him critique the artwork of the two guys in front of me.

I am curious if any body else from here that went to Baltimore visited Callero's table. I have to say he had some beautiful prints available. I picked up a 4C of the cover for issue #32 and a bw of the panel with Cosmic Boy surrounded by Dominators. He also had some nice Green Lantern prints. Callero had great things to say about Manupal.

I have to say, for me, this year was a much better experience. My friend told me that he had heard the attendance had over doubled last year's. The main floor was definitely larger. Though I do have to say that I was appalled at the lack of tact and manners that some of the attendees displayed. I can understand giving artists and writers some copies to sign, but when people pull up with their long boxes and tie up the line, it is very inconsiderate of the rest of those waiting, not to mention the professional's time. These people should be charged a fee.

I also went to the Weiringo memorial panel and listened to colleagues and friends reminisce about him. They seemed like a tight-knit family. Very close. Some of the stories were very funny. A nice end to the day.

ok something weird happened when trying to post via mobile device.

so now I'm just editing multiple duplicate posts with random words.

Well I couldn't make it to Baltimore this morning. Kind of a drag -- especially since I had been emailing Barry and Dennis ahead of time and planning to take my daughter with me. I had even gotten around to making my list of missing LSH and JLA issues to look for in the bins.

Oh well, hopefully 2008 will be better.

From Newsarama :

Sorry to hear about your daughter LB.

Shooter was also asked about character ownership in regards to his original work on the Legion:

Ditko was born in November 1927. That means he was 34 when Spider-Man debuted in August 1962. Either Marvel sat on the character for a very long time or New York has a very high age of consent.

Jim Lee Baltimore-Legion related.

"Which DC characters does he want to work with? The Legion of Super-Heroes still top Lee’s list, and he could see himself doing a Wonder Woman project."

Geez, DC give the guy a chance. He's been saying this since about 2000.

Hi guys!

Thanks to everyone who came and said hello, and who may have bought a print or a sketch.

Legion fans are the best, and I appreciate how you guys have really taken me in and made me feel welcome even tho Tony and I are the "fill in" team. Thanks!!!

Yeah but he produces like 2 comics a year now. I don't look forward to him working on a title I like because he can't, or doesn't, produce work at a decent rate now.

Superboy, well he did state he wanted the "original" Legion not another one. I guess him doing an arc or mini with the LS Legion would make him happy...but more importantly it would make me happy.

Could you imagine the last year or two of Lee's output at Marvel Comics back when Shooter was EiC. Picture it just for giggles.

You guys aren't the 'fill in team'; you're the real thing. Unfortunately, they're not letting you be the real thing for very long, but it doesn't mean that those five, six issues count for any less.

Like Matthew said. No such thing as a fill in team. You work on the Legion, even one issue, you become part of their history.

You and Tony have done some nice and interesting work to this point with a really eclectic feel. I've enjoyed it. Interesting stuff and an interesting view of the Legion.

I try to come up with a way of describing it...gothic? Atmospheric? It's almost got a horror feel to it...it's cool stuff.


I hope all the furor over the LS Legion and Shooter's return doesn't make you guys feel like chopped liver...you aren't. The truth is you guys could be putting out the greatest Legion work ever but since no one was expecting you guys to be permanent additions, it would still be kind of lost in the shuffle at this particular moment in time.

Everyone is trying to figure out what is going on with the various Legions coming up.

I've enjoyed the work of Calero and Bedard...I never got too attatched to it because I knew it probably wasn't going to be a permanent thing, no matter how good, or bad, it was...

Could be a blessing or a curse depending on how you look at it...if you guys had been the regular team, eveyrone unhappy with the current state of the Legion would have put you guys in their crosshairs. Now, instead you guys get to be the "I'll never understand why DC didn't keep them on the book, they were really good" team.


There's no doubt, even to this point, the Legion work you guys did stands apart and is one of the more unique intepretations of the Legion in it's 50 year history. Well done :tu