Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Long Live the Legion! Do you guys think Ayla was right about The Acident?

Well, wasn't here a second story once? Didn't Ayla (after repulsing an Brin who betrayed her once, simply by refusing to being there for her after allmost 20 "real-years" of Ayla being allways there for Brin, no matter what)admit privately to that she still loved Brin, but couldn't take him back, since she simply didn't trust him anymore.

The first time, (Asteroid Episode), Ayla was acting like some D-U-M-B broad, no doubt. This really didn't reflect very good on her, with her finding Brin holding another woman, assumming the WORST, getting teary hysterics, and snubbing Brin for DAYS. At this point, I believe Arachne's right if she claims Brin would be better off without her.

But right at the end of the Great Darkness, we get inside the head of Ayla. We see her traumatized. We see her weep. She told him that she thinks the Legion destroys lives and would be the ruin of the Brin/Ayla relationsship.
It was NOT about Ayla being a "proud" womaan (=You'll notice NO other woman besides me! There IS no excuse for what happened! I'M too good for the likes of you!!!")
Clearly, she needed some support to sort out her traumatized, confused feelings.

But he refused. Brin could've just as well left the Legion for the time being, and go to Winath to take care of his suposed "girl friend". He owed her THAT MUCH, at least. But he didn't. His deeds pretty much speaks for themselves. So she left. And frankly, can anybody step up and claim honestly that Ayla's wrong to do so?

You too?

About time. I'm getting SICK about hearing what a "hussy" Imra suposedly is.

What's your favorite Saturn Girl version?

A pack, as opposed to mere pals? Maybe so, but it ultimately changes nothing. Brin is human (humanoid, actually), not some animal.

Furthermore, Brin's dad was the leading scientist of Zoon: surely Brin has inherited at least SOME of these brains of his ancestors. (But, i think maybe that dumb Zoonium interfered with 'em. Oh, well... Brin's animal senses and powers are more powerful then his IQ in any case...)

But to return to topic, that's just no excuse, sorry.

The ONE TIME Light Lass expressed some inner need of her own, Brin shows his real lights, and lets her down.
And they tell me I have no real reason to get mad at Levitz, after what he did to Brin's costume, personality & moral character...

I'm NOT trying to make "your" Timber Wolf look bad, but his actions speak for themselves. There's really nothing about them, which could be interpreted either way. So how can you possibly back up Brin, and belittle Ayla's morality?? When it's SHE who was wronged???

Errr...hello? He wouldn't have been alone. Ayla would have been WITH him.

Even more important, Ayla direly NEEDED him.

But I guess she was just some sort of "consort" to him; and it's just too much asked of him to temporabily give up his place in his pack for a woman who he clearly didn't love, hmm?!

Isn't hat another continuity entirely?

If Ayla needed Brin that badly, it wasn't in any issue I've read.

Beyonder,
I agree that it was pretty lame of Brin to not go along with Ayla, when it was so important to her. Yes, he took the selfish route. Obviously, he was ready for the relationship to end. It ended up being good for him, too. His social life flourished, he got friendlier with other teammates and he did some other dating. Brin wasn't exactly a lot of fun while he was with Ayla. His mental stability changed a lot. One month he's playing chess with Superboy being silly, next month he's all grim and wanting to be left with his solitude. I think there was talk of pain and there was that surgery. In fact, we never got to learn how he transformed into that feral look, I always assumed it was the Zuunium. In fact, I blame the Zuunium for pretty much all of Brin's eccentricities.

Ayla would have just lead a peaceful life on Winath for a while, and gotten over Brin, but she had a major life change come her way. She ended up fine.

To me, all of this was change because change happens.

Not really. Despite a few changes - the "-El"s out; Glorith, Laurel Gand and Kid Q in; it was still basicly a continuation of what came before - especially in regards to Ayla, Brin, Vi, and others unconnected to Daxam or Krypton.

In the aftermath of GD, Ayla and Brin were, for once, both needy - and neither could go along with the other's perceived solutions.

True, Ayla was there for Brin much more than vice versa - but she knew that all along.

Ultimately, I think she was wise to not resume their relationship. I think she realized the unhealthy balance - she the perpetual "giver" and he the perpetualy "taker." As she learned, there was never room to swap roles - or for Brin to "grow up" while she enabled him.

In v4, 51 I think, there's a nice reconciliation between the two. To me, only at this point have both realized and accepted they've grown apart, but will still always love each other.

Most readers probably don't realize that Brin's refusal to accompany her back to Winath was actually his second "desertion", the first being the half year Brin was captured by Tyr and thought to be dead. That was a particularly difficult time for Ayla, as during the same period, she and Garth lost their parents in the asteroid belt. (In fact, I'd long theorized that this was when Ayla began resenting Saturn Girl as she subconsciously blamed Imra for the accident) And doubtlessly led her to seriously consider all aspects of her life.