Legion World Forums LEGION COMPANION Spaceopoly Multiverse Legion Idol! (WE HAVE A WINNER!)

1. (Preboot) Timber Wolf
2. (Preboot) Saturn Girl
3. (Preboot) Dream Girl
4. (Preboot) Shadow Lass
5. (Preboot) Colossal Boy
6. (Preboot) Karate Kid
7. (Preboot) Superboy
8. (Postboot) Gates
9. (SW6) Andromeda
10. (Postboot) Kinetix
11. (Retroboot) Tyroc
12. (Postboot) Shikari

Not happy about losing Spark, but I couldn't have saved her without losing Shikari, Gates AND Triad...

#1. Triad [Postboot]
#2. Gates [Postboot]
#3. Live Wire [Postboot]
#4. Shikari [Postboot]
#5. Brainiac 5 [Postboot]
#6. Kinetix [Postboot]
#7. Spark [Postboot]
#8. Cosmic Boy [Postboot]
#9. M'Onel [Postboot]
#10. Umbra [Postboot]
#11. Invisible Kid [Postboot]
#12. Saturn Girl [Postboot]

ROUND EIGHT RESULTS!

In another very interesting round, our 25 Legionnaires fight to the finish! But only 12 can make it through, so...

Here are the votes everyone got.


(Preboot) Saturn Girl - 500
(Preboot) Timber Wolf - 421
(Preboot) Karate Kid - 360
(Postboot) Triad - 352
(Postboot) Shikari - 326
(Postboot) Invisible Kid - 316
(Postboot) Umbra - 315
(Postboot) Brainiac 5 - 312
(Postboot) Gates - 305
(SW6) Dragonmage - 305
(Postboot) Kinetix - 303
(Postboot) Live Wire - 300 (previous:540)

(Preboot) Colossal Boy - 300 (previous:468)
(Preboot) Dream Girl - 293
(Preboot) Shadow Lass - 285
(Preboot) Superboy - 268
(SW6) Leviathan - 234
(SW6) Andromeda - 229
(Postboot) Leviathan - 223
(Retroboot) Tyroc - 188
(Postboot) Monstress - 185
(Postboot) Saturn Girl - 174
(Postboot) Spark - 134
(Postboot) M'Onel - 101
(Postboot) Cosmic Boy - 88

Cut-off is Kinetix at 11th; Preboot Colossal Boy and Postboot Live Wire tie for 12th.

However... Garth earned 540 accumulated votes to Gim's 468, so Garth makes it through.

Your Top 12!

(Preboot) Karate Kid
(Preboot) Saturn Girl
(Preboot) Timber Wolf
(Postboot) Brainiac 5
(Postboot) Gates
(Postboot) Invisible Kid
(Postboot) Kinetix
(Postboot) Live Wire
(Postboot) Shikari
(Postboot) Triad
(Postboot) Umbra
(SW6) Dragonmage

I feel I should give some sort of bonus to the Top 12 who made it clean through, as well. Since we're in the final stages, I'll probably just give them a simple +50 for next round. Any comments on that? It's a nice boost, but not terribly so - look at Monstress, who got a humongous boost last round but still failed to enter our Top 12!

All is not lost for the other 13, though, because next card is our final wild card round of the game...

ROUND NINE RULES - Last Shot at Redemption!

As promised earlier, this round will be our final "second chance" round.

For each of the wild card contenders, simply vote YES or NO. Any Legionnaire who has 75% of players vote YES makes it back next round.

The 13 hopefuls...

(Postboot) Cosmic Boy
(Postboot) Leviathan
(Postboot) M'Onel
(Postboot) Monstress
(Postboot) Saturn Girl
(Postboot) Spark

(Preboot) Colossal Boy
(Preboot) Dream Girl
(Preboot) Shadow Lass
(Preboot) Superboy

(Retroboot) Tyroc

(SW6) Andromeda
(SW6) Leviathan

Round ends early morning, US Pacific time, November 20, Sunday.

House Rules

1) Each round will last about 48 hours, and will end early morning PST.
2) I'll vote at or near the start of every round to eliminate bias on my part.
3) I won't disallow changing of votes. I'll post on this thread the minute I start tallying to alert everyone; votes (or vote changes) that come in after that will be ignored.
4) In case of errors in the results, I'll post a correction immediately. If anyone's vote was affected by the error, and that poster wasn't able to correct the error in time, he or she will get a makeup vote next round - +15 points to give a Legionnaire of their choosing.
5. Ties will be broken by looking at the accumulated votes Legionnaires earned in previous rounds.
6. Voting rules may change every round, so read carefully before posting!
7. Points also reset per round, giving each Legionnaire a clean slate. But every vote is important because accumulated votes from previous rounds are used to break ties. You never know when such a vote can save one of your favorites!

Feel free to comment on the mechanics, the Legionnaires, anything! One of the best things in this game is we get to know each other better through our choices. I had a lot of fun chatting with Blacula, Xben, Reboot and Lard Lard in the last Hurt and Heal game over who our faves were and why.

My vote:

YES

(Postboot) Cosmic Boy
(Postboot) Leviathan
(Postboot) M'Onel
(Postboot) Monstress
(Postboot) Saturn Girl
(Postboot) Spark

(Preboot) Dream Girl

(Retroboot) Tyroc

(SW6) Andromeda

No

(Preboot) Colossal Boy
(Preboot) Shadow Lass
(Preboot) Superboy

(SW6) Leviathan

Just some rambling...

There are actually very few Postboot Legionnaires who wouldn't get a YES vote from me this round. Since I grew up with the Postboot, I have a soft spot for all of them. Maybe the only ones I wouldn't give a pass to are Kid Quantum I (who was meant to be a jerk) and Inferno (cause she's a killer).

My picks:

YESes

Andromeda

Love this version of Laurel. Powerful, confident, humble. One of the few instances where I prefer a non-Postboot version; I liked the growth of Postboot Laurel but wish she'd come back to the Legion after the Mordru battle. The nun phase was interesting but overdrawn.

Tyroc

Love how Paul Levitz revived this forgotten Legionnaire. The Glorithverse Tyroc got a lot of respect from me, and the current one is also fulfilling his potential. I wish Kinetix could get a similar second chance under Levitz!

Dream Girl

Beauty + brains, classic combination. Love how her vampy personality was partly her real self, partly a cover to make people underestimate her.

Postbooters:

Cosmic Boy and Saturn Girl

Have high respect for them as leaders in the Postboot. They had their bad phases (Team 20 storyline, anyone?) but as a former student leader I can empathize with the stress and tough decisions.

Monstress

Legion Lost made me a big fan. Was touched by her origin and cried when she died - one of the few times a comic ever made me cry. I don't think most people appreciate how much inner strength Monstress had, to not just maintain a cheerful facade after her awful past, but to also actively care for others.

Lost was great - I came out of it liking every Lost Legionnaire a LOT more, and it catapulted several (Monstress, Wildfire, Shikari, Umbra, Chameleon, Saturn Girl) into my Top 12 faves of all time. Only Live Wire, Brainiac 5, Kid Quantum II and arguably Apparition were already IN my Top 12 before that. Okay, maybe Top 14 - Kinetix, Gates, XS and Violet are all up there too and I have a hard time ranking them properly.

M'Onel and Spark

These two aren't personal faves, but I loved Spark being the voice of reason and loyal sister to Live Wire. Since he's a fave, I'm partial to his sis. As for M'Onel, I found him a bit boring in comparison to the others, but loved his Legion Worlds spotlight.

Leviathan

The most interesting version of Gim, for me. I didn't personally like his characterization and always felt he picked on Gates and Star Boy too much; but at least he wasn't boring.

NOs

Shadow Lass

Prefer Umbra A LOT. Preboot Shady I found very emotional (although she had self-control, which I admire). Didn't like her cattiness (with Phantom Girl) towards several others. Hate the current Retroboot version, who seems a bit off her gourd regarding Mon-El and Earth-man.

Colossal Boy and SW6 Leviathan

Sorry, but I've always found Gim a bit boring

Superboy

He's likable and powerful, but I just find him overexposed.

Some musings on the Top 12...

Personal Faves

Kinetix

My #1 all-time fave. Loved the look; loved the powers (if I had to pick ONE power, it'd also be telekinesis); and fell in love with her after reading her origin. I can empathize with the feelings of being a useless kid, and wanting desperately to self-actualize and "perfect" oneself. I wish she'd been able to fulfill her potential, though. She didn't have as many "moments" as she could have.

Gates

My #2 all-time fave! Love the powers, the look, the snappy sarcasm. Underneath all that he has a heart of gold, though - kinda like Oscar the Grouch. Love that they resurrected him from limbo - he's too great a character to not use!

Brainiac 5

My #3 all-time fave, which makes me really happy. I used to prefer Lyle, but Brainy grew on me under DNA. Fantastic forcefield aside, love how he's intelligent and confident without being too arrogant; and his compassionate side is a big plus.

Live Wire

Haven't really ranked em all yet, but Garth just might be my #4 (contending with Apparition and XS). He grew a lot during the Postboot and ended his tenure as a leader and a hero.

Shikari

I loved her personality, and her powers were always intriguing. Always good to know where you have to go right?

Umbra

She's a bit too cold for my taste - I was hoping they'd have a scene with her apologizing to Monstress in Lost. Still, the latter issues showed she cared - she took time to say sorry to Cham and Jaz, and when Wildfire was in trouble she stood up for him. Awesome look and powers, too.

Triad

She used to be higher up on my list; I wonder why she fell? I loved her origin story and her personality. She was also good under DNA. Maybe it wasn't so much falling out of love with her, as the others just captured my imagination more.

Dragonmage

I actually preferred the personality of his Postboot counterpart, since the Preboot one seemed a bit bland to me. But being Asian (and Chinese!) like him, I'm glad to see more Asian characters in the Legion. Also liked his determined personality.

Karate Kid

Preboot Val was a bit hotheaded at times, but he had his moments. He's not a particular fave, but I wouldn't mind him winning.

Saturn Girl

I prefer the Postboot counterpart, who seemed more accountable for her actions. But Adventure Imra is one of my faves from the Adventure Era, since she was one of the first strong women in comics.

Timber Wolf

He's okay, though didn't really stick out as a fave for me.

YES

(Postboot) Leviathan

(Preboot) Colossal Boy
(Preboot) Shadow Lass
(Preboot) Superboy

(Retroboot) Tyroc

(SW6) Andromeda
(SW6) Leviathan

NO

(Postboot) Cosmic Boy
(Postboot) M'Onel
(Postboot) Monstress
(Postboot) Saturn Girl
(Postboot) Spark

(Preboot) Dream Girl

---

I like a lot of the Postbooters on my "NO" list very much but the Top 12 is already very Postboot heavy and I'm voting to restore some balance.

P.S. Why does Shikari keep making it so far in these games? I seriously do not get what people see in that character.

YES
(Preboot) Colossal Boy
(Preboot) Shadow Lass
(Retroboot) Tyroc

NO
(Preboot) Dream Girl
(Preboot) Superboy
(Postboot) Cosmic Boy
(Postboot) Leviathan
(Postboot) M'Onel
(Postboot) Monstress
(Postboot) Saturn Girl
(Postboot) Spark
(SW6) Andromeda
(SW6) Leviathan

Personally, I liked Shikari's earnestness. Kind of a breath of fresh air in those dark times.

Ones I personally feel are a bit overrated are Postboot Triad and Invisible Kid. I'm ok with them both, and I see how people can relate to them being relatively weak yet still strong contributors to the team, but... I don't feel they're THAT great.

YES
(Postboot) Monstress
(Preboot) Dream Girl
(Retroboot) Tyroc
(SW6) Andromeda
(SW6) Leviathan

NO
(Postboot) Cosmic Boy
(Postboot) Leviathan
(Postboot) M'Onel
(Postboot) Saturn Girl
(Postboot) Spark
(Preboot) Colossal Boy
(Preboot) Shadow Lass
(Preboot) Superboy

YES
(Postboot) Spark
(Postboot) Monstress
(Preboot) Dream Girl
(Preboot) Shadow Lass
(Preboot) Superboy
(Retroboot) Tyroc
(SW6) Andromeda

NO
(Postboot) Cosmic Boy
(Postboot) Leviathan
(Postboot) M'Onel
(Postboot) Saturn Girl
(Preboot) Colossal Boy
(SW6) Leviathan

NO
(Postboot) Cosmic Boy
(Postboot) Leviathan
(Postboot) Monstress
(Postboot) Spark
(Preboot) Colossal Boy
(Preboot) Shadow Lass
(Preboot) Superboy
(Retroboot) Tyroc
(SW6) Andromeda
(SW6) Leviathan

YES
(Postboot) Saturn Girl
(Preboot) Dream Girl
(Postboot) M'Onel

I'd go for Shikari over Dawnstar any day of the week. I guess we all have our characters that we're a bit mystified by other's love for.

The 13 hopefuls...

(Postboot) Cosmic Boy No
(Postboot) Leviathan Yes
(Postboot) M'Onel Yes
(Postboot) Monstress Yes
(Postboot) Saturn Girl No
(Postboot) Spark Yes

(Preboot) Colossal Boy Yes
(Preboot) Dream Girl Yes
(Preboot) Shadow Lass No
(Preboot) Superboy Yes

(Retroboot) Tyroc Yes

(SW6) Andromeda Yes
(SW6) Leviathan Yes

YES
(Postboot) Cosmic Boy
(Postboot) M'Onel
(Postboot) Monstress
(Postboot) Saturn Girl
(Preboot) Superboy
(Preboot) Dream Girl
(Retroboot) Tyroc
(SW6) Andromeda

NO
(Postboot) Leviathan
(Postboot) Spark
(Preboot) Colossal Boy
(Preboot) Shadow Lass
(SW6) Leviathan

(Preboot) Superboy (Yes) the only reason any version of the Legion exists?
(Preboot) Colossal Boy Yes
(Preboot) Dream Girl Yes
(Preboot) Shadow Lass Yes


(Postboot) Cosmic Boy No
(Postboot) Leviathan No
(Postboot) M'Onel No
(Postboot) Monstress No
(Postboot) Saturn Girl No
(Postboot) Spark No

(Retroboot) Tyroc Yes

(SW6) Andromeda No
(SW6) Leviathan No

*hasn't counted for once, but doubts ANYONE's making it through this round...*

YES
(SW6) Andromeda
(Postboot) Cosmic Boy
(Postboot) M'Onel
(Postboot) Saturn Girl
(Postboot) Spark

NO
(Postboot) Monstress
(Postboot) Leviathan
(Preboot) Colossal Boy
(Preboot) Dream Girl
(Preboot) Shadow Lass
(Preboot) Superboy
(Retroboot) Tyroc
(SW6) Leviathan

As of now, one lucky Legionnaire is making it through. Two more have a chance, if an 11th voter signs in and gives them a +1.

In any case, it's about 2 hours left until I usually close the rounds, so let's see...

ROUND NINE RESULTS!

13 hopefuls run a gauntlet of 10 discriminating voters, and the results are close...


(Postboot) Cosmic Boy - 3 Yeses, 30%
(Postboot) Leviathan - 3 Yeses, 30%
(SW6) Leviathan - 3 Yeses, 30%
(Postboot) Saturn Girl - 4 Yeses, 40%
(Postboot) Spark - 4 Yeses, 40%
(Preboot) Colossal Boy - 4 Yeses, 40%
(Preboot) Shadow Lass - 4 Yeses, 40%
(Postboot) M'Onel - 5 Yeses, 50%
(Postboot) Monstress - 5 Yeses, 50%
(Preboot) Superboy - 5 Yeses, 50%
(Preboot) Dream Girl - 7 Yeses, 70%
(SW6) Andromeda - 7 Yeses, 70%
(Retroboot) Tyroc - 8 Yeses, 80%

And so, Retroboot Tyroc makes it back into the game! Honorable mentions go to Preboot Dream Girl and SW6 Andromeda.

Your 13 Finalists:


(Postboot) Brainiac 5
(Postboot) Gates
(Postboot) Invisible Kid
(Postboot) Kinetix
(Postboot) Live Wire
(Postboot) Shikari
(Postboot) Triad
(Postboot) Umbra
(Preboot) Karate Kid
(Preboot) Saturn Girl
(Preboot) Timber Wolf
(Retroboot) Tyroc
(SW6) Dragonmage

ROUND TEN RULES!

Back to normal voting mechanics for this round! We also won't have any more bring-back rounds, since we're close to the end of the game.

Since only one Legionnaire made it back last round, there's not much point in giving bonus points to the original Top 12. So everyone starts with a clean slate this round.

Rank your Top 7 Legionnaires!

Points will be given as follows:

1st - 50
2nd - 25
3rd - 15
4th - 10
5th - 5
6th - 3
7th - 1

Bottom 3 go home, leaving us with a Top 10.

Round ends early morning, US Pacific time, November 22, Tuesday.

House Rules

1) Each round will last about 48 hours, and will end early morning PST.
2) I'll vote at or near the start of every round to eliminate bias on my part.
3) I won't disallow changing of votes. I'll post on this thread the minute I start tallying to alert everyone; votes (or vote changes) that come in after that will be ignored.
4) In case of errors in the results, I'll post a correction immediately. If anyone's vote was affected by the error, and that poster wasn't able to correct the error in time, he or she will get a makeup vote next round - +15 points to give a Legionnaire of their choosing.
5. Ties will be broken by looking at the accumulated votes Legionnaires earned in previous rounds.
6. Voting rules may change every round, so read carefully before posting!
7. Points also reset per round, giving each Legionnaire a clean slate. But every vote is important because accumulated votes from previous rounds are used to break ties. You never know when such a vote can save one of your favorites!

1) Kinetix
2) Brainiac 5 (Postboot)
3) Live Wire (Postboot)
4) Gates
5) Shikari
6) Umbra
7) Triad

1. (Preboot) Saturn Girl
2. (Retroboot) Tyroc
3. (SW6) Dragonmage
4. (Preboot) Timber Wolf
5. (Postboot) Gates
6. (Postboot) Invisible Kid
7. (Postboot) Triad

1. (Retroboot) Tyroc
2. (SW6) Dragonmage
3. (Preboot) Karate Kid
4. (Preboot) Timber Wolf
5. (Preboot) Saturn Girl
6. (Postboot) Invisible Kid
7. (Postboot) Umbra

1.(Preboot) Timber Wolf
2.(Preboot) Karate Kid
3.(Preboot) Saturn Girl
4.(Retroboot) Tyroc
5.(Postboot) Gates
6.(Postboot) Invisible Kid
7.(SW6) Dragonmage

1.(Preboot) Saturn Girl
2.(Postboot) Live Wire
3.(Postboot) Invisible Kid
4.(Preboot) Timber Wolf
5.(Postboot) Gates
6.(Postboot) Brainiac 5
7.(Postboot) Triad