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Are there any instances of (pre-ZH) Ultra Boy actually flying without a flight ring?

The reason I'm curious is that descriptions of his powers seem to be inconsistent in whether they list flight as one of his abilities.

I agree. I've always wondered that.

He can shift his energy to different parts of his body I always thought. Which makes sense for all his other powers but no flying.

What I didn't know until recently when I picked up one of DC's reprint 80-page giants was that, in his first appearance, Ultra Boy could only manifest one power, penetra-vision! What a great (if unintended) commentary on the teenagers of the time--teenage boy uses new-found power to see THROUGH things (just like the X-ray glasses advertised in comics!), only later discovers super strength, invulnerability, super speed, etc. No wonder Marla was sent to chaperone Jo on that first adventure! I can imagine Marla slapping Jo upside the head when Jo's gaze lingered too long on the Smallive lingerie and dainties shop! (Methinks I recall Waid making writing a nice bit about this in the 3boot, concerning Jo's discovery and Saturn Girl's switch to lead underpants.)

I do seem to recall Jo flying w/out a ring, but I can't recall when.

I've always wondered if they added the extra powers on top of Ultra Boy's vision powers just because they needed a third "Superboy-class" character for the Alaktor story, and still hadn't remembered Star Boy.

And that statement inspires a train of thought that I'll need therapy to get rid of...

Apparently, the "ultra-love" wasn't powerful enough to keep Ayla interested!

In her first appearance Ayla was able to convince the entire team that she was a boy, and Garth was hardly effeminate. Plus there's the whole identical twin thing, which mean's that something is going on under the hood, there.

Shvaugn Erin wasn't the first bit of mystery meat in the Legionverse, is all I'm sayin...

I didn't think that male & female twins could be identical.

FYI . . . I just threw up in my mouth.

Hey, it's the 30th century. With all the aliens, robots, etc., most bedrooms have to look like a bad japanese cartoon when the lights go off. Let's not be so quick to judge.

Well obviously he hasn't learned full control of his powers yet.

As for male/female twins being fraternal? I would guess on Winath they can be identical and different sexes.

Re: Ultra Boy again.

I do remember him flying faster than the ring permits by using his powers.

I think it was said that he used super-speed to do that, though. Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but...

Of course, it was later established that the speed of flight with a flight ring is limited only by the wearer's willpower, so I don't know what to think of that.

Isn't that what Magnetic Kid did?

Yep.

It's kinda funny, the flight rings working like GL rings. Almost fitting...speaking of which, why haven't there ever been that many GL's in the 30th century? Rond Vidar is the only one I can think of off the top of my head...

Something else else about the Guardians keeping them away from Earth. Vidar, Rond's father, was a rogue GL before he was stripped of his ring and went on to become Universo.

As I recall they were banned from Earth on Mondays!

Still, with all the planet hopping the Legion does, and all the "Universal Threats" to crop up, you'd think you'd have seen more of them...

It *is* curious they didn't show up in Great Darkness. Or the Magic Wars. Or umpteen other billions of universe wide crises...

See what I mean?

There had to be something behind the Lanterns not being around.

The Trapper is controlling the Guardians? The Time Trapper said the Legion is what always kept Mordu in check. Why not the Lanterns?

Are there less Lanterns in the future? Did they kept wiped out by Mordu? Or a scheme by Mordu followers keeping the GLs down?

Well, post-Zero Hour, the Corps were never rebuilt from Mass Murdering Psycho Hal Jordan's rampage.

Pre-ZH, we never saw more than a handful of GLs at a time. Maybe there weren't that many left? Maybe Oa's heyday was over, and they knew it. In GL continuity, remember, Earth of the year 6400 (or thereabouts) needed a time-travelling Hal Jordan (or Salaak); they had no GL of their own.

In 5YL, Celeste encounters a ring in flashback, just prior to her transformation, but it's implid that its purpose is not immediately evident; thus we can surmise GLs are not as well known in 30 as they were in 20.