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I don't know all that much about him, other that he wrote Legion as a teenager. And I understand that he was big at Marvel. What else has he written (as an adult)? Is he good? I'm asking, because I've been hearing rumors...
<span class="spoiler_containter"><span class="spoiler_wording">Click Here For A Spoiler</span><span class="spoiler_text">My comic book shop owner says that one of the big things that is going to be announced at the San Diego convention is that Shooter will take over Legion. A Legion that will not be the threeboot (and no, I don't know what that means, either)</span></span>
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Discussed here and again here when it was said he would not be taking over the Legion.
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Honestly, at this point an announcement that Shooter is taking over the title is about the only thing that could get me excited about the future of the Legion.
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Originally posted by Lightning Lad: Discussed here and again here when it was said he would [b]not be taking over the Legion. [/b] I shouldn't have started a new topic on this. Maybe someone would like to merge some of these threads?
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According to Tony Bedard on CBR: I don't think you'll get booted one way or the other. And I expect DC to announce their plans for LEGION beyond issue 36 at San Diego or perhaps Chicago.
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"Anytime a good book like this is cancelled, I hope another Teen Titan is murdered." --Cobalt
"Anytime an awesome book like S6 is cancelled, I hope EVERY Titan is murdered." --Me
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is jim shooter writeup on newsrama sound like legion will get even better lets hope
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I guess I'm about as excited about this as I can get. Yeah, it will be an even and something to see Shooter writing the Legion again. But will it last? It sounds like he has some good ideas and is ready though. I'll give him a fair shake, same as nearly any other writer on the title.
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Not to get too excited or anything but, because I don’t follow much outside the legion, what’s Shooter done recently in terms of comics writing and has it been any good?
I loved his original Legion stuff but if he repeats or retreads that sort of story will it really satisfy the modern audience? We and no doubt Jim himself have all moved on and matured can he produce a modern exciting take on the current legion that will appeal to readers or will we end up disappointed?
Issue 37 seems to be the start of his run so let’s see what comes out eh?
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Well, I can take a deep breath, now. I've been on pins and needles about this announcement for weeks, even though all the clues pointed to Shooter.
In terms of the interview, I can't belive how GRACIOUS Shooter was. I mean, say what you like about him, but interviews often leave one with the inescapable conclusion that the guy's a conceited jerk. He only gets a little jerky talking about "new" artists. It's great to hear him speak so enthusiastically about Francis and Marts. Maybe he can teach Marts how to edit!
The thing that makes this exciting to me is that Jim always seemed to get intuitively that the Legion was club of people who at heart liked each other and would lay down their lives for each other, even if individual members were cliquey, catty, conceited or cruel. My biggest disappointment with Waid has been that he got the second part perfectly, but rarely the first part. You could never understand why Waid's Brainiac 5 would ever do ANYTHING to bail Waid's Cosmic Boy out of jam, or vice versa. I know nothing of Shooter's personal life, beyond the "13-year old" comics writer, but I get the impression that he was (and I hope still is) a keen observer of human nature who could translate that observation into great storytelling. The Legion was his high school club when he was in high school.
IF Shooter is successful this time around, I hope it is a spring board for cultivating new creative contributions to the Legion. Levitz, Waid and Shooter aren't going to live forever. Unfortunately, when we've seen younger talent on the book lately, they haven't always "gotten" the aspects of the concept that to me seem most important.
...but you don't have a moment where you're sitting there staring at a table full of twenty-five characters with little name signs that say, "Hi, my superpower is confusing you!"
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BTW, does someone here have the Legion character descriptions that Shooter wrote and I THINK Tom and Mary Bierbaum distributed? I can't seem to find it in the Intertubes this morning. I remember it being very good and very insightful.
...but you don't have a moment where you're sitting there staring at a table full of twenty-five characters with little name signs that say, "Hi, my superpower is confusing you!"
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You're amazing, Scott! I am book-marking it this time.
...but you don't have a moment where you're sitting there staring at a table full of twenty-five characters with little name signs that say, "Hi, my superpower is confusing you!"
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Thanks! I'm also adding the info to our Encyclopedia Galactica .
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Wow, how I hate some of those characterizations!
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I'm excited personally. While Jim was THE guy back in the day he's always been a progressive writer. It will be interesting to see which direction he is taking this. And I love Francis' work.
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Crap! Just when I'd resolved to be all cynical and curmudgeonly about all things Legion...
<span style="font-size: 50px;">YAY! JIM SHOOTER IS WRITING THE LEGION AGAIN!</span>
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I really like how he talked about characters becoming his favorite whenever he was writing them. It sounds like he'll at least have some individual personalities in mind when writing.
Interesting that rebooting was on the table. It sounds like that will always be an option. I wonder what about the threeboot Mr. Shooter considers to be a "good foundation." But, perhaps it's better that I don't know the details, so my disagreements with the writer are delayed as much as possible.
Another year-spanning arc? Well, I hope it's at least a good one.
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<<< Really excited about this. I must admit, I'm very newschool...just to give y'all an idea of how new, I didn't get into the Legion until their Zero Hour reboot. With that said, I'm not familiar with Shooter's Legion and I'm not familiar with him as a writer in general. But even with that said, I'm still excited because this shows a commitment by DC to the Legion. Shooter sounds like he has some big things planned...it remains to be seen whether these things will be great, but it's good that there are things in the works to take this book to another level in the anniversary year...I just hope they succeed in doing it.
I'm also glad Shooter decided not to reboot. I'd rather see him try and creatively and organically remedy the things that aren't working in the current run than have to read more origin stories. Maybe if the Legion had a ton of continuity right now, but the series is still pretty new.
The new sketches by Francis are great! His art really makes the characters pop. I can't wait to pick up the new team's first issue.
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so glad this was finally announced! I'm really confident that Jim will knock this out of the ball park. I think the easy road would have been to reboot, but a "real" writer can take what he's given and turn it into gold. Long live the Legion
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I have to say that I am not terribly excited about Jim Shooter writing the Legion. (plus his write up of the characters seemed too obsessed with sex. Hopefully he is past that now)
Hopefully by not having any expectations, I'll be pleasantly surprized.
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So, I see Mort's little whippersnapper is back again. Ok, I'll give him one more chance. Francis, you must be thrilled and Jim seems thrilled with you, too! Congratulations and best of luck!
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Prediction: Legion fandom's response to the new Shooter era as it unfolds will be...mixed at best. I know...that's so out there, right?
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Shooter's never been one to reboot. I get the impression that he's an old school creator that tried to work within the framework of past continuity. Some of the writers these days tend to throw everything out every 6 months.
In fact I think I'd lose respect for him if he didn't try to work with what's there. Much of the acrimony from his time as EiC of Marvel seems to be his insistence that creators work within the 'established rules' as interpreted by him. I think people tolerate or even admire demanding people but not hypocrisy.
I can't say I'm a big JS fan. Most of his major work was before my comic reading time, I think the only Marvel work of I've read is Secret Wars, but I'm excited because he and Francis seem to be bubbling with energy over this project.
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