Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Visionaries of Tomorrow Dave Cockrum's unpublished creations

I think it would be cool if DC purchased Dave's characters that never made it into print and introduced them into the Legion universe once and for all in honor of Dave,Maybe they could even purchace the rights to the Futurians and some of his non Legion creations.

I agree.

I have a web page devoted to them -

http://www.nightcrawler.coolfreepage.com/

Nothing would make me happier.

Who is the black guy with the atom symbol? I like him better than Tyroc.

And if I was DC I would buy these characters asap!

I also would wish Tyr gets a bigger spotlight as a Legion villain. I had his Super Powers toy and he was my favorite villain. That was before I even knew he was a Legion foe.

Then I read the Levitz/Laroque baxter story and became a huge fan. Would also love to see Belladonna/Foxglove.

That's Dave's version of Power Boy (a then, unknown Legionnaire). Never thought of him as black before...hmmm.

Ah, so Power Boy later becomes Molecule Master?

The Outsiders team pic and in the individual pics he has a different costume.

That was me. The only image I had of Power Boy was from the group shot.

I messed with Dave's Molecule Master image to make it appear to be Power Boy. Dave even told me he liked that.

That's a great site, Nightcrawler!

Belladonna looks fantastic and she's so typically "Cockrum" that I love her even though she's never appeared anywhere. She'd be great as a dominatrix/vampire villain in the Legion. I don't believe we've seen any similar villain before.
OK, Vrykos was a vampiric villain but he lacked Belladonna's "flair",imho.

Does Marvel own the copyright to all of Dave Cockrum's characters?

No. Just Nightcrawler. I don't think anyone but Dave [now Paty] (and DC with Tyr, Reflecto and Power Boy) owns the rights to these characters even though Marvel has published these images twice now.

Twomorrows has published them as well. And the copyrights belonged to Dave as far as I can tell.

Dain, Belladonna being the sister of Vrykos would rock. Cosmic vampires vs. the Legion!

Wouldn't it? What an original storyline that would make (Original for the Legion, that is)! Even as an as-yet-unknown race they'd be great as villains. And we never got to know if Vrykos was magically altered by Mordru or he was "dentally endowed" by nature!

So, if DC wanted to renew or aquire the copyright again, they could "revive" both the Outsiders and the Strangers (with obvious exceptions, naturally).

Belladonna and Wolverine (this version) are supposed to be brother and sister. I think I'd prefer Belladonna and Vrykos being lovers.

Lovers would be cool, too. I love those ideas and I'm not that much of a vampire fan. But futuristic vampires with Belladonna and her lover/brother (one of these, not both) Vrykos as major villains would have the potential to become a Legion classic!

Alternately, Belladonna could be a kinda-sorta sister to the Legion's own 'wolverine,' Brin Londo, being an ill-fated lab assistant to his father, who was used as fodder for his experiments with Z-rays or whatever. (Surely he didn't test the prototype on his only son!)

She ended up with animalistic properties similar to those of (the Zuunian equivalent of) a vampire bat.

She would also have history with Brin, who may not remember her initially, although she remembers keeping an eye on him on behalf of his father (he was a little old for it to be called 'babysitting'), until the 'accident' and her 'mysterious disappearance.'

As for the other team, we already know Reflecto's power, Nightcrawler's powers and Typhoon's powers. I wonder what exactly Power Boy (something nuclear?) and Quetzal (other than graceful winged flight?) were capable of?

Hey Nightcrawler have you ever seen pics of Skyhawk or Bloodstar and Phaedra some of Daves other creations the last two were to be members of the Starjammers.

This is slightly off topic, but I've been rereading all the Spider-Man comics and not too long ago came across a series of great, great Cockrum Spider-Man covers in the late 70's.

Here is what I consider to be the best Morbius cover of all time by Dave with Spider-Man (and Gloria Grant) on the cover. Just so dynamic...Dave was such a master.

Er...this goes along with the Dave-Vampire theme of the thread (AKA, an excuse to post one of my favorite covers of all time and one I only recently discovered was by Dave).

Not bad at all.

Where have Bloodstar and Phaedra appeared?

Is that supposed to be Glory Grant on that cover? It made me do a double take because the gal on the cover looks like Vixen.

I saw a picture online of the characters with there names underneath them with the Starjammers in large letters above them.

Is that Vixen on that cover?!

I like the idea of Belladonna being lovers with Vykros, Gary.

Set, I also like the idea of having Belladonna being part of Brin's backstory. Were-men, vampires and androids (frankenstein?)!

She could be both Brin's sister and Vrykos' lover.
As a villainess, if her looks say something about her character, I'm sure she could see *eye to eye* with, for example, the Emerald Empress.

Thanks for the info Lone Wolf. Phaedra was a character in Seeker 3000 which had something to do with Dave Cockrum. I couldn't find anything about Bloodstar.

I'm not familiar with Skyhawk or Bloodstar.

Phaedra is the one I used to color Belladonna -

Oh, so she's another Phaedra! Beautiful!

I never realized how much it looks like Vixen before! But yeah, its Glory, in a rare cover appearance (she was good for about one every five to ten years ).

Nightcrawler, who's the artist of the Tribute to Dave Cockrum picture in your Outsiders/Strangers site?