Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Visionaries of Tomorrow Shooter off Legion?

That's at least what Rich Johnston seems to suggest in the latest LITG column, when he speaks of the bristol comic convention.

"Jim Shooter's non-attendance was due to being dropped off "Legion" by DC."

has anyone heard something about this?

Link to reference.

I hope not!

Gotta say, i hope he isn't gone. This isn't the legion i wanted to read about, but if its all i am gonna get, its a damn site better than what came before.

Be nice if we got some Villians in the book, though.

This is what I was afraid of. With all the Final Crisis stuff you don't get JIM SHOOTER to write a swan song for a low selling series.

No you COMMIT to JIM SHOOTER and treat him like a god. I love Geoff John's Action Legion as much as the next guy but if they knew they were going to scratch the current Legion...they shouldn't have offered to Jim. They should've offered the Action Legion to him once Final Crisis was done.

I would be totally disappointed if Shooter is out

I'm hoping this is a bad rumor, but have a sinking feeling that it isn't. Whatever happened to class?

let's ask Manapul!
Fraaaaaaaaaanciiiiiis??!!!
is this true?

editorial must have finally decided that Johns' direction/Legion was the way to go, and Shooter, understandably so, was pissed and bailed. didn't DC always say that this WaK legion was the legion for this Earth? they decided to listen to the sales and the blogs and go for Johns' take. why should Shooter stay with a sinking ship that Waid comandeered into the iceberg?

Whichever way, it sucks. We come full circle in 50 years, back to being a supporting act in Action. I really hope DC lives up to its promise of letting Shooter do at least a year before giving the series the ax. But if the LitG rumor is true, it sounds like that may not be the case.

I call it karma for all the bad things Shooter has done.

Karma ain't all it's cracked up to be. Shooter is no saint, for sure. I've reached a point in my life where I've made enough mistakes that I hope those to who I've been unkind will let it pass, and try to do the same for others. Shooter participating in the Legion's 50th anniversary year has nothing to do with old Marvel politics, and everything to do with honoring the innocent exuberance of a 13 year old boy who got his dream job, and contributed many classic elements to this thing we know as the Legion. Come on, Stealth, he did create that badass villian for the ages, Emerald Empress, who you have a bit of fondness for. Can you give him just a little bit of love?

I really hope that this isn't true, but, given the luck the Legion franchise has, it probably is...

Shooter has single-handedly saved the threeboot Legion and made them feel like Legionnaires again, and whoever came up with the Action Legion has failed to do so, IMO, devolving into schmaltzy nostalgia and feel-good buzz-words and catch-phrases rather than presenting actual characters.

I could give a rat's butt about what Shooter has done in the past. He's doing good work *here.*

If Shooter goes and that Action version of a 20 year dead Legion is superimposed I'm going to quit the book - the Powers That Be have no interest in what I imagine the majority of readers want (quality workmanship, new ideas, the unexpected) just in pleasing the loud minority that are never happy with anything but their own 'golden age'. Blecch, stagnation within a creative medium should be hangable offence IMO!

04/2007: Supergirl & LoSH #28 — 31,525
04/2007: Supergirl & LoSH #29 — 30,906
05/2007: Supergirl & LoSH #30 — 30,767
06/2007: Supergirl & LoSH #31 — 30,385
07/2007: Supergirl & LoSH #32 — 29,826
08/2007: Supergirl & LoSH #33 — 29,315
09/2007: Supergirl & LoSH #34 — 28,294
10/2007: Supergirl & LoSH #35 — 27,370
11/2007: Supergirl & LoSH #36 — 26,814
12/2007: Legion of SH #37 — 45,803
01/2008: Legion of SH #38 — 33,045
02/2008: Legion of SH #39 — 31,123
03/2008: Legion of SH #40 — 30,377

Well, there wouldn't be many living writers at DC were that true...

Well, what a crap way to start off Tuesday.

But I have no doubts that it is true.

One would hope that DC at least informed Shooter his run (and in fact the 3boot itself) was just until LSH of 3 Worlds ended, but that may have not been so.

That the ACTION arc (which I *loved*, make no mistake) co-incided with Shooter's return is unfortunate.

I'm not looking forward to the Legionnaires Slaughterfest that is sure to come with Lo3W.

Got a favourite Shooter story to share?

Got a favourite Shooter penned comic?

I really enjoy the energy he's brought to the series. And seeing Invisible Kid in action has been the best part.

hey sorry guys I'm sure you know I can't comment on things like this either way. It is a rumour column so lets take it from there with a grain of salt.

oh and those numbers are a bit skewed, I've been told that we at least doubled the sales from the previous month which takes us to about 60 K I believe.

Thanks for providing a calming influence before we all drove ourselves nuts, Francis. Have we told you lately that your art kicks nass?

Well, we'll see. I hope it's not true because i've found that Shooter's Legion, while not quite my cup of tea, is far superior to Waid's.

At the same time, I much prefer the silver age Legion. Well, we'll know soon enough... but Rich Johnston generally checks his sources very well... Mind you, there was no trafic light indication on this

it makes sense to offer it to Shooter. by putting a top name on it, you hope to stop the bleeding and con people into thinking the book won't get dropped. don't forget, DC ran solicitations for a Flash comic that they knew wouldn't be coming out!they knew the Rogues would kill Flash, but let people think the book was continuing.

why would they treat this book and it's fans any differently?

and, if this is true, it shouldn't be a big surprise. during all the interviews about 3 worlds, and the Action Legion, has Shooter been shown to have any input? none, that I can find. it's been a Johns production first, last, and always.

I didn't like everything about Waid's writing, but as a new fan I thought he did a good job. the real blame lies with DC. think about it this way, what if this Legion was featured in the Action story? that would have helped to raise the profile of the book. the minute, they allowed Johns to say that the Action Legion was from Superman's past, this book was a dead man walking.

don't you think that was a fatal flaw?

also, here's a post from late last year. not entirely accurate, but it hits close to home.

http://www.legionworld.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=004885;p=1#000000

DC should drop Didio -- on his big, fat head.

And if it so happens Shooter's run is cut short because of editorial interference/incomptetence, the disgust and loss of confidence generated would surely have a negative impact on the Johnsboot Legion as well. No one would win.