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#361186 11/13/04 10:12 AM
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I hope no one minds but I went ahead and featured this topic so it would be easy to find for everyone. Plus the sketches look great!

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Those sketches..Wow.
That's all I've got, just..Wow!

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Those sketches are awsome!!! I can't believe that I'm getting excited about the Legion after all of these years of mere content!


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Barry's sketches are amazing, to echo what's already been said, I am SO excited about the new Legion!
Many thanks for sharing the sketches Barry, you are truly a great talent!


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Wow, I should have visited here sooner.

I started a costume post on the DCBoards, but it has died down.

I love seeing Barry's sketches. Hope they get included if DC does a Legion 0 or a TPB.

I'm really amped for the new series...especially after seeing the previews. Love the more mature sensibility that was lacking in the last reboot.

Favorite costume has to be Lightning Lad. Basic Cockrum with a snazzy update. I like the new version of Starboy with the white pants. While I loved Cockrum's design, this is another great update. Also love Light Lass. Although the arrow reminds me of Element Lad, it works better for Ayla. Also...the costume is a subtle homage to the Cockrum era costume designed by fan Carol Strickland.

I do like Barry's original costume for Colossal Boy, but I also like the version seeing print. I do like the stockier build on Gim. Gives him a bit more personality.

Most of the Legion hasn't been really seen close enough (in color)to judge their costumes, but I'll comment on what I've seen.

I haven't seen a good preview of Shrinking Violet yet, but I like ther version here with the swirls on the arms.

Dream Girl doesn't look bad here...wasn't sure I liked the costume seen in Legion/Teen Titans on the final page.

Saturn Girl looks better here than in the preview...maybe that's because of the black & white (the red just seems old-fashioned and dated to me). The cape looks better here, but the crop top doesn't work (IMHO).

I also like the fluid Chameleon Boy costume better than the version on the cover of issue 1. Maybe his look can evolve over time.

Wasn't sure about Element Lad at first, but the costume does work with alchemy. Red and yellow wouldn't have been my choice for colors...maybe they'll grow on me...or maybe he'll change them.

I saw Barry's notes about Sun Boy looking too perfect. Maybe that's why I don't like the new costume. Although the Sun Boy costume in iteself isn't bad, it doesn't work for Sun Boy. It's too altar boy. The hair do is even worse. I really liked when Giffen used the flaming hair effect when Sun Boy used his powers.

Some constructive criticism Barry...a few too many crop tops and shorty gloves. While the crop top works for Ayla...I don't think it works for Imra. I don't think Phantom Girl would need gloves.

Looking forward to Timber Wolf (and maybe Infectious Lass?!!).

Love the artwork I've seen from the first issue. I think this may be Barry's best work since Azrael...which I loved until Barry left.

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Hi Guys

Wow kc, considering you posted that you'd never liked my design sense previously and were not expecting to like them, I'm more than pleased with your response to the look! smile

Thanks Brigort! laugh

Thanks MYG - it's been really great how many people have expressed similar feelings - we'll do our best to live up to your expectations. smile I know everyone here will keep us on our toes!

Thanks LoneWolfLondo! smile

Sorry if I've missed anyone - I'm rushing a bit to catch up from the Texas trip!


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I admit it. I've always liked your art, but haven't been crazy about the costumes you've designed in the past. Although, after seeing your notes...I wonder if you haven't been constricted by your co-creators.

I hope Mark doesn't bring to much of a Silver Age influence to the look of the costumes...especially as his script shown in Horizon certainly seems up-to-date.

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Hi KC - Thanks!
All comic creation is collaborative - which is partly what makes it such fun! I would certainly never say Mark constricts me at all - if anything he pushes me to try more angles than perhaps I would left to my own devices!

We're definitely aiming for an entirely modern take on the LSH - there won't be any more Silver Age echoes than you've already seen.
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Thanks again for the kind words!


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Barry or Mr. Kitson. Whichever you prefer. You have done an outstanding job on all of these Legionaires. Please do something better for Sunboy. His costume is awful. I also hate to be the one to tell you but Light Lass costume looks alot like Element Lad's during the Grell years. Light Lass original costume had a cloud on it. I do respect you and your art since I have no artistic ability. bsl

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I actually like Sun Boy's costume. So I guess you can't please everyone. laugh

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I like the scketches it's very interesting to see that stuff. I still have reservations about the new series but I like some of the costumes. Has the rational behind changing star boy ethnicity been discussed?


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Hi Barry,
Now that you're back are you going to post more sketches/costume designs? I hope so. I have really enjoyed the previous ones.
-Cary

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I gotta say - now that I've seen Sun Boy's costume in more detail, I like it too! LOVE the glowing sun thing on his chest and am very grateful that it actually looks like a sun at last and not a star! He could possibly benefit from some boots though, or something on his legs.

And I echo the call for more sketches.

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Hi Guys - I'll be posting more of the design sketches in a day or two... maybe the guys that saw them all at Texas could suggest which unseen ones I should send next? smile

On the Sun Boy topic - let me know if you still feel the same way after you've seen #1...


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Hi Barry - Would you pleeeaasse post some pics of Lyle?? Im dying to see what you have in mind for him. :-)

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wow
this stuff is brilliant!
thanks, barry!
definitely whets the appetite for the new Legion!

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I like all the costumes, especially Princess Projectra's.

Someone said that they didn't care for the colors of Element Lad, the only thing about them is that I know I'm going to constantly think that it's Sunboy.


And to show I bear no ill will, I, too, shall bestow a gift...
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Hi All
I think we're getting near to the end of all the design sheets I can let you see so far (unless any one can think of any I had in Texas that I haven't posted yet?).

Thanks to Nightcrawler as always for helping me post them...and in this case with the nifty new 'thumbnail' link smile

A few more changes were made to the design after these early passes as you'll see in the first issue.

Thanks, as always for all the support and encouragement!

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I like Karate Kid's second look a lot, the only thing about the first one, is that it's extremly close to the suit Dragonmage had.


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Hi Princess - that was exactly what I felt in retrospect! smile

Obviously the colors could have been totally different, but I preferred the second anyway!


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I LOVE Karate Kid's second outfit Barry! Val's never had a bad outfit IMO - and this continues the tradition.

I like that you've noticed that the boots are a bit hard in this picture too. Hopefully they will be softer in the final version, if you haven't gone with my earlier 'strapped feet' suggestion. wink

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Both of Val's (I use their old names hoping they'll still keep the same civilian identities in the new series) costume designs look great Barry. But I definitely like the classic look best.

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The first design would be great for Dragonmage if he ever makes it back. KK's outfit doesn't really excite me though. I appreciate that Val wouldn't wear anything flashy, but the pajamas look doesn't do it for me. I also hope the yin/yang symbol means something to the characterization.

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They both look good to me. I like Blacula's strapped feet idea.

And definitely use the first design for Dragonmage when he appears! smile

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I've been avoiding the new costume design sketchs, till i actually read the first issue, but after that all bets are of and a new LSH photomanip series will begin........

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