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#361161 11/01/04 09:33 PM
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I like the Lava Lamp Lad look for Cham. Fluidity of form is how I always wanted to see his character represented. My bet is that the antennae will "pop" out when he needs to do "research" for a new form.

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Barry,

This is the most fun I have had with the Legion in years! I hope you can use the extra page count to incorporate neat features like your character sketches into the actual book.

Cham's appearance is, like many of your designs, intriguing and thought-provoking. Previous versions of Cham (Levitz and afterward) contrasted a shapeless chameleon with a very centered, strong-minded personality. I can't wait to see if this Chameleon has a harder time knowing who he really is--something that occasionally happens to talented actors and impersonators.

Cheers, and enjoy Dallas. This is a nice time of year to visit there.


...but you don't have a moment where you're sitting there staring at a table full of twenty-five characters with little name signs that say, "Hi, my superpower is confusing you!"
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Wow, I love Element Lad's new look! I love the hair and goaty. I can't wait to see his attitude.

Princess Projectra is beautiful.

WHY?? Has Karate Kid been blanked Out??? Does it reveal his Nationality?? Whats the big deal. Why can't they reveal what Nationality he is??? confused

Dammit!!! I was hoping to she Shrinking Voilet in a skirt!!! I love her Oringinal Costume!!!

Anyway, looking great!!

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The art looks amazing! I love all the Shrinking Violet's! I really liked the pose with the guns.

Brainiac 5 looks awesome IMO. Cham? Well the ears without the antennaes don't look right BUT the costume with the ears covered IS cool.

Sun Boy looks pretty darn cool as does Dream Girl and the rest. LOVE the group shot.

Invisible Kid? Eh. Doesn't do much for me. Maybe when I see it colored.

Who is the guy behind Jo in the group shot? Would be an interesting look for Mon-El. wink

thanks Barry!

Jorge

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Wow!
I'm really excited about this, the more I hear, the more I like it.

You know, I actually prefer the lava-lamp look for Chameleon (Boy?). I've never quite understood why, being able to change shape at will, in former incarnations he chose to spend most of his time as an orange fellow with antennae. Why didn't he choose a human look? Or something closer to his original Durlan shape (whatever that is)? Why that sort of in-between look?

Chamaeleon is the only non-humanoid in the team at the moment, I would prefer if he looked as alien as he is. So, no problem here with the lack of antennae and the lava-lamp look (I would actually prefer it to the other, more traditional look)

Anyway, thanks for all this stuff, Barry, I really appreciate it. I am travelling in India at the moment and don't get to post very often anymore, but I'm really excited about this new Legion.

Juan

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I'll take Element Lad however I can get him, but am a bit leery about that "Sees all life as transmutation" note on the side. Sounds a bit post-boot, new-age, progenitory for my comfort. Nevertheless, I'm quite happy with the potential for he and Projectra to be drawn to each other. Reminds me of the pre-boot when he was leading a team dying to know who Sensor Girl was. It feels right for those two to be able to have a close relationship.

Like your thoughts on Cham. Plus I'm happy to see the triplicate girls on the loose. Thanks again, Barry, for nursing us through the 3-month gap with these.

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Thanks again everyone!

Don't take any of these as final unless you've seen them in the preview though smile

It's really interesting for me to read your responses - particularly to things like the 'lava-lamp Cham'!

The only reason KK was blanked out in the group shot was that we were in the middle of changing his features and the sketch just never got finished.

The IK costume shown in the design sketch is NOT the one he'll be using (that's what my 'Nope!' note is for) smile

I'll be absent for a while now while I jet off to Dallas and spend a couple of days at DC in NY. I'm very much looking forward to meeting as many of you who can make it Dallas as I can and to reading your reports on the panels etc! smile

Thanks again for being so kind - more sketches etc when I get back!


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Have a safe and fun trip Barry! Wish I could be there.

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Thanks LL - maybe next year? smile


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Yeah, have a great time Barry!

Howsabout San Diego next year? smile

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Thanks Nightcrawler - I really hope so! I was intending to go this year, but had to postpone.

All being well I shall be there in 2005! smile


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San Diego, the place to be in 2005! Maybe I'll see if I can get a room at the Marriott while its early. Any idea of the dates yet?

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It's nice to see Triplicate Girl return to her *cape roots*. One thing I never understood during the post zero hour legion was the color coding of her 3 selves. One purple, one orange, and one purple/orange.

Wouldn't it make more sense to have one purple, one orange, and one white. Each representing 1/3 of the colors of her uniform (purple, orange, white)

Will this version of Triplicate Girl also have 3 distinct personalities?

Thanks for all the preview sketches Mr. Kitson, I haven't been this excited about the legion in YEARS.

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LL, some of us on the East Coast (and Tennessee) have been discussing a "road trip" to San Diego next year over in the MMB. I seem to remember that SD is quite nice in the summer.


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Hi Guys
I'll sign off for now - hope to see a good many of you in Dallas! I should be able to start posting sketches again in the week beginning November 15th.
If you spot anyone asking me questions on the boards between now and then I'd appreciate if someone would be kind enough to let them know I'm away - not just being rude! smile
Thanks as always for the kind words and support!


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Originally posted by Gizmo321:
It's nice to see Triplicate Girl return to her *cape roots*. One thing I never understood during the post zero hour legion was the color coding of her 3 selves. One purple, one orange, and one purple/orange.

Wouldn't it make more sense to have one purple, one orange, and one white. Each representing 1/3 of the colors of her uniform (purple, orange, white)
Because it was based on her eye colour, and Triad still only had two eyes. The middle body was Neutral, rather than White, as well.


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#361178 11/02/04 10:44 AM
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Plus, Lu's original costume only ever had purple and orange in it. I think later artists followed up from the original color scheme in deciding how the color split went.


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The question I have about Cham is: is this how Durlans look? We've seen Durlans in the present DCU - is this the same race? Have they evolved or is it just Cham who has this look? Or is this Legion in a totally different dimension altogether? (probably not)

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I had a strange dream last night that this Durlan was not Reep but a new character named Om (hence the slightly different appearance) who would die sometime in the first year paving the way for Reep to join the team! How weird is that! eek

Spill Barry! Have I the gift of the Sibyl? wink

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Blacula really is Nura.

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The question I have about Cham is: is this how Durlans look? We've seen Durlans in the present DCU - is this the same race? Have they evolved or is it just Cham who has this look? Or is this Legion in a totally different dimension altogether? (probably not)
Well to be fair Durlans *are* shape-shifters, so they could easily choose to look just about any way they would like. Their "default" appearance would be the one of the Durlan in the L.E.G.I.O.N. series, not the humanoid one that Reep usually reverted to when not in disguise. Maybe in this version of the future the Durlans choose this appearance when off of Durla, or maybe each chooses his or her own unique form?

Of course in this reality Chameleon Boy might not even be a Durlan at all. We don't know that yet.

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some how I thought I remembered that the various tribes of Durla had taken different shapes, especially when off world, so as to differentiate themselves. In other words the physical shape they had was little more that the “traditional” dress of various regions, nations in Europe.


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That's what I remember, Faraway. Each tribe had their own form. But I don't remember if that was a preboot or reboot convention - or both.


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It was both. It was started in preboot, and Waid made a refernce to it in the JLA: Heaven's Ladder oversized comic.


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