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Re: Supergirl and the LSH 33 (spoilers)
#33967 09/04/07 08:01 AM
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LSH found itself at the bottom of my read pile, a place reserved for favorites (been a while since that's happened with LSH).

likes: Tenzil. The already-infamous "CHOMP!" scene shocked me at first then made me laugh. Good job, hope he comes back soon (this cannot be stressed enough!). Getting rid of the Wanderers. Hopefuly Terror Firma is next. The art. Good stuff. The cover may be one of my favorite LSH covers ever. WILDFIRE! Hooray! I at first was disappointed that Bismollians wouldn't be widely known, but than realized it's a BiiiiiG galaxy out there, so found it interesting that some planets and races remain steeped in rumour or mystery. Someone should publish an "Encyclopedia Galactica", maybe?

dislikes: The framing of Mekt. The feeling that I don't quite understand exactly what happened. "No one" will object to Terror Firma? I hope Projectra kicks all their asses.

overall assessment: It's good that some things progress (the Wanderers' exit, Tenzil appearing) and bad that I didn't quite "get" everything that happened. I can file the "bad" under 'part of a larger picture that hasn't been revealed yet', so I'm pretty happy.

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#33968 09/06/07 01:11 PM
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I expect you'll have no problems with the Legion maintaining close ties to Terra Firma. Surely a writer can come up with stakes for them that are similar to a defeated planet and speculation about the planet's future.
On the contrary, I do have a problem with the ex-Terror Firmas, but I don't want to derail the thread with my reasoning, since it's not really pertinent to issue #33.

More to the point, I believe Brainy has a problem with them, too, and knows the Legion won't vote the ex-TFs in (Not only Projectra, but Saturn Girl, Lighting Lad and Timber Wolf, who fought them mano-a-mano on Rimworld 19), and said what he said only to convince Sun Boy to rejoin. He'll deal with them as he did the Wanderers, presumably.

As for Brainy's obscure motives, we mustn't forget he's being guided in all this by Dream Girl, who knows things about the future we don't know. The changes occuring in the arc are ones she foresees as necessary, imo.

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#33969 09/06/07 07:57 PM
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On the contrary, I do have a problem with the ex-Terror Firmas, but I don't want to derail the thread with my reasoning, since it's not really pertinent to issue #33.
I can't say I'm really surprised.

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More to the point, I believe Brainy has a problem with them, too, and knows the Legion won't vote the ex-TFs in (Not only Projectra, but Saturn Girl, Lighting Lad and Timber Wolf, who fought them mano-a-mano on Rimworld 19), and said what he said only to convince Sun Boy to rejoin. He'll deal with them as he did the Wanderers, presumably.

As for Brainy's obscure motives, we mustn't forget he's being guided in all this by Dream Girl, who knows things about the future we don't know. The changes occuring in the arc are ones she foresees as necessary, imo.
An excellent illustration of what exhausts me about the threeboot. Instead of cool super heroes having adventures, it's super-powered bickering and manipulation. Which is also why I liked 32--with its hints at legionnaires simply dealing with a new adventure--and disliked 33--with its revelations that the "new adventure" remains mired in scheming and politics.

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There are a few of dangling plot threads here the size of modest cosmic strings:

1) What the nass happened to Lemnos?

2) What was Jeyra doing with the robot revolution and murdering people if she was a Wanderer?

3) What was the sprocking point of the events on Winath in the last 2 issues?

Arrrrghh!!!
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4) What exactly happened to Orando? Was the planet destroyed ala Krypton or was the population murdered ala Trom or was just the royal family and other political and business leaders that were killed and the planet's infra-structure destroyed ala Iraq?

5) What exactly happened to Cargg? What caused the devastation and why was our Lu the only survivor, so to speak?

6) How does issue #15 fit into this 'continuity', why wasn't it included in the TPB and who was that guy at the end of the story with the 'S' curl? It seemed relevant at the time but now it doesn't seem to be 'in continuity' so what was the point of #15 finally?


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6) #15 fits into the continuity just where you think it does: in the aftermath of Elysion's attack on Metropolis. It wasn't included in the TPB because DC is inconsiderate. The guy at the end with the S-curl was Dav Huntr, who was just another legionnaire. The point was that it was kind of a fun comic book.

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#33972 09/07/07 04:12 AM
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In retrospect, it would have been more interesting, post 52, if Dav Huntr had been named Rip Huntr - or maybe they're related.


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I finally read the issue last night, well... what was this all about?

Mekt being the scapegoat after all came out of nowhere - good storywriters "reep what they have sown" - but nothing was sown (or is it sewn?) about that anywhere before... Bedard is not to blame though, he couldn't have because he's only on the book for two months now. Still, a rather unsatisfying twist. And cheap as well.

Even though I liked the art - Calero has the stuff to be the next Coipiel - I really don't did the story. To be true, I digged it for the first ten pages or so - thinking "could I actually come to like this Legion incarnation..." - but the ending ruined it for me.

About the Terror Firma discussion: Who the *** is Terror Firma? Who was Lemnos? Were they not the most uninspiringly written villains in Legion history? Let them rest in peace, with Sun Boy back on the Legion the last remnants of Waids inept attempt to invent his own Legion Lore will soon be going the way of the dodo.. no new writer would touch that stuff. Bedard is the man to create a clean slate for the new team. The Legion as a galactic youth movement will probably be gone til the new writer takes over as well...

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#33974 09/07/07 11:34 AM
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4) What exactly happened to Orando? Was the planet destroyed ala Krypton or was the population murdered ala Trom or was just the royal family and other political and business leaders that were killed and the planet's infra-structure destroyed ala Iraq?

5) What exactly happened to Cargg? What caused the devastation and why was our Lu the only survivor, so to speak?

6) How does issue #15 fit into this 'continuity', why wasn't it included in the TPB and who was that guy at the end of the story with the 'S' curl? It seemed relevant at the time but now it doesn't seem to be 'in continuity' so what was the point of #15 finally?
4) The planet became a burning ball of fire as depicted in issue #6, after Jeckie witnessed the progressive destruction of its forests, deserts, etc. through the scry. In a more recent issue, Jeckie said to Trip that at least her sisters on Cargg are alive but her world was wiped out and she lost everybody. Little doubt as to its fate.

5) They never said. Trip herself doesn't have a clue what happened.

6) It's included with two other backup stories in the "Adult Education" TP, in a section called "Tales of the Legion of Super-Heroes". The intro says it took place when the (lower case) legionnaires regrouped after the destruction of Legion HQ. The campfire tale itself is meant to be apocryphal, of course, and (according to Stuart Moore, the writer) a homage to the past.

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Oh!


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I have to chime in with the chorus on that I don't have a clue what was supposed to be going on with the Winath mission. After Brainy sending the team to search for Cos (due to possible magnetic signatures there), I have no idea why Mekt was sent, how the locals got their electric powers, why they wee hostile to the mission team, or why the "Wanderers" are still poking around.

I wish we could just have a clean slate, with Mr Bedard writing new stories, not trying to mop up the current mess. These old plot threads are so tangled and convoluted, I don't even care where they're heading. Hopefully, we'll get more info on the Cult of Validus, Tenzil Kem, and some good stuff upcoming on Wildfire and focus on a few Legionnaires at a time. Forget Terror Firma, The Wanderers, & Lemnos and let's move forward.


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#33977 09/09/07 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by doublechinner:
[b] There are a few of dangling plot threads here the size of modest cosmic strings:

1) What the nass happened to Lemnos?

2) What was Jeyra doing with the robot revolution and murdering people if she was a Wanderer?

3) What was the sprocking point of the events on Winath in the last 2 issues?

Arrrrghh!!!
Also:

4) What exactly happened to Orando? Was the planet destroyed ala Krypton or was the population murdered ala Trom or was just the royal family and other political and business leaders that were killed and the planet's infra-structure destroyed ala Iraq?

5) What exactly happened to Cargg? What caused the devastation and why was our Lu the only survivor, so to speak?

6) How does issue #15 fit into this 'continuity', why wasn't it included in the TPB and who was that guy at the end of the story with the 'S' curl? It seemed relevant at the time but now it doesn't seem to be 'in continuity' so what was the point of #15 finally?[/b]
I'd like to know:

7) Who from the Wanderers were/are working for Tarik("the Mute"?), and who were working for Mekt. Were Mekt and Tarik working together? Was the Tarik plot line just accidentally mixed in with the Wanderers'?

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It IS rude to point.

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More to the point, I believe Brainy has a problem with them, too, and knows the Legion won't vote the ex-TFs in...
Naughty, naughty Trommy. It's rude to point. Have a demerit and NO sprinkles on your ice cream tonight.

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#33980 09/14/07 02:39 PM
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I already had ice cream with sprinkles for breakfast -- followed by chicken fingers for lunch. tongue

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#33981 09/14/07 03:20 PM
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I wonder what flavour ice cream each Legionairre would chose....


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#33982 09/14/07 03:20 PM
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I am intrigued by the TF stuff. These guys may have not been directly responsible for these crimes. They were soldiers. I do think they should have some type of punishment or probation but I don't mind if they join.

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All I'm going to say about the storylines, I've just read and am working on issue 36, and everything wraps up great! Many of the issues brought up here are addressed and I think people will be very happy with our "interlude."

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#33984 09/18/07 11:53 AM
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What ?!? There was an "interlude" without me? Keep in mind, Dennis, that without ambiguity, inconsistency, and confusion in the Legion main title, there would be little need for Legion World. Hey, did you ever post a limerick. It's a rite of passage here and much better than the other new member hazing alternatives.

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Where do I do this? I'm intrigued...

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ohhhhhh,

never take the bait.

look what happened to us.

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Where do I do this? I'm intrigued...
Why, right here in the Spaceopoly forum, along with a bunch of other fun games, etc.


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#33988 09/27/07 06:14 AM
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Where do I do this? I'm intrigued...
Time to rhyme --

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His escape from the Silo of Death could have been more exciting and dramatic, but his brief moment of Fatassness almost makes up for it.
finally reading this issue i had a LOL moment because that scene with Tenzil in the wheat silo reminded me of that scene from "Strange Brew" were Doug Mackenzie drank his way out of a vat or giant tank full of beer and when he came out he was all bloated with beer. and the comment from the girl: "i can't believe he drank the whole thing."


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