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they have officially retconned the Legion itself out of existence. Although it all has just been shunted to an Earth-2 type analogue. So it could have been worse there I think. The continuity ( ha ha Legion continuity) has been kept about as intact as possible, under the circumstances.
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
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I was basing my statement on Vaneta Rogers's recent Newsarama article in which she uses quotes from Keith Giffen to reach the following conclusion:
"For now, however, the Legion is not going to be part of the future of the DCU. 'Paul actually provided a great run-up to Justice League 3000 by giving me the option of choosing how to place the characters, if I want to use any of the Legion characters. But that said,' he added, 'as of right now, the Legion does not appear in Justice League 3000. No Legionnaires appear. There is no United Planets. There are no flight rings.'"
Sure sounds to me like the entire 31st century as we know it, Legion included, has been retconned out of the DCFU.
First comic books ever bought: A DC four-for-47-cents grab bag that included Adventure #331. The rest is history.
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Oh sure, but at least it was moved. It exists, just not in the mainline DC universe, as such.
It's not as though they're saying "forget about all that. Here's what really happened." Then proceed to walk all over bits and pieces of the Legion.
The lifespan of these reboots, retcons and re imaginings is so brief that I started the sentence as a different person using different words beginning with "re"
"For now" is about the length of time Didio agrees something, walks the length of the corridor back to his office, picks up the phone and then goes in a completely different direction.
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And then there is this problem: Action Comics Volume 2 #6
Next time we have a DC/Marvel crossover, I want it to take place in the Hostessverse
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Actually, out of everyone they seems to be the ones most at ease jumping between all the different realities & continuities. It's probably all linear, in some strange way, to them. It's the perceptions of everyone else that are warped. ![smile smile](/forums/images/graemlins/default_dark/smile.gif)
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Long live the Legion!
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Actually, out of everyone they seems to be the ones most at ease jumping between all the different realities & continuities. It's probably all linear, in some strange way, to them. It's the perceptions of everyone else that are warped. ![smile smile](/forums/images/graemlins/default_dark/smile.gif) Which suggests the possibility that, somewhere, out there, is an 'archetypal' Legion, that only has ever been seen through the filtered / warped perspective of the different continuities in which we've seen them. The act of stepping outside of their 'Legion Headquarters' (located outside of spacetime, in it's own pocket dimension) and entering the various futures they protect transforms them to abide by the rules and expectations of these respective universes. Certain recruits come from specific universes within these different continuums, and therefore aren't as free to jump between universes, as the 'core team,' which is why only one of the teams has a 'Gear,' or a 'Gazelle,' or a 'Tellus,' and yet all of them have had a Saturn Girl and a Brainiac 5. That would wreak havoc on the times we've seen multiple teams interacting (such as Legion of 3 Worlds) but even that could be handwaved away by saying that they were snatched not just through dimensions, but also through time. Each of those three Ultra Boys, for instance, was a reflection of 'Ultra Boy Prime' projected at different times into different universes, and they didn't remember each other, or know that, deep down, they were the same person, because the way they project into different universes as different people doesn't just change their costumes or hairstyles, but also their personalities and memories, making them literally 'fit' into whatever universe they are visiting. Wow, the Jungian archetypal ideal gobbledygook got away from me on that one. I think I may have confused myself. ![smile smile](/forums/images/graemlins/default_dark/smile.gif)
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^^^that's awesome! I really want a team who does that now! It would be like Exiles meets Quantum Leap! ![laugh laugh](/forums/images/graemlins/default_dark/laugh.gif)
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Um, where's the "Like" button for Set's comment?
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I quite like tabletop RPGs, and that's pretty much how the likes of Torg and Luther Arkwright (based on the comic that I ' can't recommend highly enough) were played.
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Any news yet as to when a "new" monthly (or mini) series might take place? Here's hoping... The way I understand it, DC is not only not publishing a Legion book at the moment, they have officially retconned the Legion itself out of existence. JL3K is NOT a Legion analogue; it's a Justice League clone set in the 31st century. There is NO Legion book coming in the foreseeable future. I guess that makes now the beginning of the longest period without a Legion title. Wow, that sucks!
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But if we all get together and write to Murray Boltinoff... ah hell ![frown frown](/forums/images/graemlins/default_dark/frown.gif)
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