Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Long Live the Legion! The Legion is Dead, Long Live the Legion: Article at Newsarama

Uh...weren't DnA leaving anyway, necessitating the change? DC didn't fire them from the book.

Yes and no - they quit, but then were told to leave 3 issues earlier than they wanted to.

For those not continuing to read the posts over at Newsarama dealing with the article, Barry has been posting and, while not giving out and out answers, he has given a little insight. As he see's it. I'll post them here.

Barry Kitson joined in the fun and games at Newsarama. A few points of interest:


"I'm really not thinking of it as a 'reboot' or 'relaunch', but something different - a new chapter - distinct, but definitely part of the LSH big picture."

I assume this means that the characters that survive the transition will be the same characters we know now. The $64K question is, how many will survive...and who.

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"As to how long we intend to be on the book - we are definitely intending it to be a long run! I'd like to match my L.E.G.I.O.N. run if I could."

It remains to be seen if this is a good thing, or a bad thing. From the sound of it, Waid and Kitson will be exempt from DiDio's rule of rotating teams.


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"L.E.G.I.O.N. isn't being forgotten that's all I can say at this stage"

"I think LE.G.I.O.N. readers as well as Legion readers will enjoy the character of what we have in mind..."

He's putting an awful lot of emphasis on L.E.G.I.O.N. A 21st century component, maybe? In any event, I think it's no coincidence that Brainy is the first confirmed character. He's going to play a more pivotal role than ever before, imho, just as his ancestor Vril Dox did in L.E.G.I.O.N. I'll go so far as to speculate that B5 will be the "founder" of the next incarnation of the Legion.


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"I'm sure some folks' feathers will get ruffled - no change can occur without that happening - but hopefully we'll get a whole bunch of new people to take a look at the series"

A generic statement, but I get the distinct impression they're perfectly willing to sacrifice some of the old readership for a shot at a new one. This is going to be every bit as controversial as TMK, imo.


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... and we certainly won't be doing anything to detract or show any disrespect the great LSH heritage!

Sounds to me like "the great LSH heritage" will be embalmed and put to rest. I have a bad feeling about this.

Ah, you beat me to it, Lightning Lad.

Yeah but you gave comments Trom. I just posted Barry's statements. Both are cool with me.

With fingers crossed that our favourites (Triad, Triad, Triad) make it on to the new team, I'm not too freaked out about the possibilities inherent in the latest re-imagining of the Legion.

Here is why it makes sense to me - DnA road a long time on the good will generated by their early promise. They introduced exciting new ideas like Damning the Legion, Losing the Legion, Legion World, but then started to leave a trail of ragged story threads dangling in their wake. They'd introduce something compelling (Sharn Nux/Computo, Fatal 5's secret) and with baited breath we would wait to see how it would play out. I kept thinking they're doing this for a good reason (Kinetix's transformations, Ferro stuck in mask, Jarth) which they will reveal later. But later never came.
It really is unfair to dump all of this into the laps of a new team who want to create (or distort?) their own version of the Legion. Who would want to follow DnA with a broom and dustbin cleaning up after their sloppy story-telling?

Lets see what the new team has got to offer and give them a chance. Just the fact that they've mentioned "characterization" in a big way has got me drooling.

My take on it is this.

I have been a Legion fan since I was a kid. I always will be. If you dressed up cute and fuzzy bunnies in a Legion belt and gave them a flight ring, I would probably still buy the comic. Maybe that is just me.

I didn’t really care for what DnA did with the Legion. They did put out some good stories, but I am not sorry to see them go. I got used to what they did, and I am dealing with it.

When you talk about Mark Waid, all I can say is that just about everything of his that I have read, has made me excited about comics again and I have enjoyed reading it. Kingdom Come , the Tower of Babel storyline of JLA, JLA: Year One , just to name a few. Some of the best stuff I have ever read in my opinion. I know Waid is a Legion fan. I saw him in a Legion panel at a convention in ’96 and you could tell he was excited about it then. From what I have seen so far, he seems excited about it now. I might not like everything he ends up doing, but I have a feeling that I am going to enjoy it anyway and I will have a smile on my face. For me, put that in the “no-worries” column.

When you bring Barry Kitson into it, the smile gets even wider. Besides the fact the Kitson is a top-notch artist, look at what he and Waid have worked on and the past. Empire , JLA: Year One , Brave and the Bold. All everyone-should-have-a-copy stuff if you ask me. They make a great team, and they produce quality stuff. Put that in the “no-worries” column.

The only way I could be happier is if I had a working flight ring…

oh lord, i hope Waid doesn't bring back Tangleweb!!!

Hi everyone - and thanks to all of you who've said nice things about my past work!

To touch on a few of the points that have been raised...

The LSH will very definitely be teenagers!

I wouldn't focus too much on the 'movement' word - it seems to be causing a lot of confusion - and misdirection...

I wouldn't worry about terms like reboot or relaunch either - we're not thinking in those terms.

We are VERY pleased Paul Levitz is so encouraging and enthusiastic about our ideas! I'm sure you are all aware of how devoted to the Legion Paul is! :-)

There will be 30 pages of story each month...and I'm determined to draw as many as I can!

Apologies for any clumsiness or naivete I show in my posts to the boards...hopefully I'll be a seasoned contributor before too long.

I'm very excited and proud to be part of the LSH story - I loved working on L.E.G.I.O.N. and the interaction it afforded with the readers; I really hope the same will possible with LSH.
I'll be happy to answer as many questions as I can and be as frequent a visitor as I can...the only thing I won't want to do is give away any storylines - I always liked the LSH when you didn't know what could happen next and I hope we'll be bringing that edge back to the stories.I'm also very wary about dropping hints - as from experience people seem to take the hint and then imagine the worst possible interpretation they can from it!:-)

It's a shame really that the news had to come out this far in advance of the book - as I'm a lot more comfortable discussing actual stories than I am dealing with all the speculation.

Thanks again for the invitation to join the boards (and to Faraway who gave me the nudge to remember that invite) and for everyone's encouragement and support - for those of you sceptical (or worse) I hope you'll give us the chance to win you over.

Thanks Barry! And Darden, I owe you a pint for that nudge.

Okay, I trust you. I'll shut up with my paranoid pessimism and wait until the end of the year for the new series.

Much appreciated, capt.dallas... that's really all we can ask for....

I'm thrilled by this news! Mark and Barry are very talented and I have always enjoyed their work, and I have to say the first year and a half-ish of the rebooted Legion that Waid helped guide was the best the reboot has been. The only time it has come close since was Legion Lost!

I look forward to the new series, especially if Garth is back to being Garth (in both body and name: Lightning Lad!).

And I have to say, I'm not surprised at all that Mark and Barry wound up working for this particular editor. Waid & Kitson? WaiKit?...Whack it?...Wacker?

Maybe we can call their era "MarKit"!

Welcome to Legion World Barry and Mark! I know I'll enjoy this ride!

Welcome, Barry. Another Long Island pessamist here, but I'll try to play fair.

One question you may be able to answer: Is Steve Wacker continuing as the book's editor?

That's a clever name.

Is it confirmed that Wacker will remain editor? I don't recall seeing him mentioned in any of the announcements yesterday.

Oops! I didn't see T.C.'s post until after I posted mine.

Sorry T.C., for repeating your question.

I hope Barry's post calms some people down!

I know I'm really looking forward to their take on the book! I loved their JLA: Year One, Empire and Brave and Bold, and I think they'll work well together on Legion.

And they won't be older, there isn't a reboot, and there *will* be 30 pgs, so I see this as only good news!

I'm going to sit back, enjoy Gail's run, and then look forward to MnB

Hey Barry. Good to see you again. Missed your art since the Titans ended. (Yeah, i got empire just like i said i would, but i cant find the zero issue from dc to see how it started, so i havent read it yet, lol.)

Anyway, yeah, ya'lls interview scared a few of us around here. After the Firestorm debacle, we are kinda gunshy, at least some of us, anyway.

So, since ya asked so nicely, yeah, i will most definately be checkin the book out. Just have Mark make Jeckie a human again and ya have a fan for life.

Hey Rick. If you didn't pick the the TPB that was just released that included the whole shebang I'll get you a copy, probably electronic, of the #0 issue.

Thanks for responding Barry.

Will you continue the tradition of nude Legionnaire splash pages?

So the decision Jorge has suffered this time is to miss out three issues.

Barry

Glad my nudge got you over here. Scott watch out I might just get over their one day to take you up on that offer of a beer

Having just bought Empire to see what the new team is capable off I am now a lot more relaxed about the future of the future.

Lots of very very pretty pictures, I cant wait to see Barry's version of my fav, Saturn Girl.

All I can say is thanks Barry. In that one little sentence about not thinking in terms of a reboot or revamp you put my mind at ease. That Newsarama article was so vague and misleading in spots that I was really worried. If it was going to be another reboot then I was leaving the book, but now I will see what you guys have coming down the line.
If your pulling our leg and it is some kind a veiled reboot then I am still leaving. I have hung onto Legion since Superboy/Legion 198, but I just can't and won't go through another reboot on my all time favorite book.

Not to be paranoid or anything, but just because they're not thinking in terms of "reboot" doesn't mean it isn't -- does it??

Anyhoo, it's great to see Barry here. Now if only we don't scare him off before the re-whateveritis.