Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Tinya and Luornu: Their introduction and the social consequences for the LSH!

I agree with Candle about Nura and Jecky - too busy between Legion duties, personal business (on Earth and their homeworlds) and their boyfriends to have time for friendships. For Nura, add her concerns about her little sister as well. The thing is, I'm sure neither of them cared about that either.

Nura liked to flirt with the boys and Jecky seemed to rarely interact with them. Actually, it'd be interesting to look back at her scenes and see if she ever actually spoke to anyone on a personal level! The point is, the two conducted themselves very differently within the Legion. Neither were friendly with other girls.

Postboot, it was almost set up more as a group of five rather than three - the founders had only known each other a day or two before Tinya showed up, and Lu was there right at the start before Cos... I don't want to say "drafted", given the *literal* draft which followed, but it was almost like that!... pulled her onto the team. Despite that, and some implicit time between Lgs #0 and LSH #62 while the draft was happening given the relationships in the opening scene of #62, it was never really followed through for some reason and later stuff focused on the three more "as usual".

The team grew pretty quickly in the early stages so there wasn't as much time for the "First Five" to cohere as a clique. Then we have Tinya and Lu quickly being pulled into the Espionage Squad by Lyle and forming a sort-of-clique with Cham and Vi, plus Garth being tossed out and replaced by Ayla.

Still, later issues would show that the early team (plus Jenni, Cham and Lyle) along with the First Five would form a slightly closer bond than some of the later-joiners (see Legion 11, where Lu, Lyle and Imra rush to hug Tinya after she returns. Later member Jazmin doesn't hug Tinya).

Going back to Chuck and Lu's wedding, Lightning Lad always seemed like an odd choice for BB's best man. Matter Eater Lad, Chameleon Boy, or Invisible Kid seem like more likely candidates, being among the lower-powered, less flashy members like BB was. I could sort of see Imra and Tinya as Lu's maid of honor and ring-bearer/flower girl/whatever, as they were the first 3 girl members and among the longest serving, so that made more sense to me.

I'm trying to think back to the Adventure Era, but I don't really recall Chuck being particularly good friends with any of the guys. EDE cited in another thread that Chuck and Tenzil hadn't had much recorded interaction Preboot, though they were good friends Postboot.

With Lightning Lad, he did mellow down after his "death" and resurrection so he's IMO still a better candidate for Chuck's best man than, say, Karate Kid or Ultra Boy. But I also had the impression that Tenzil or Cham were fairly good friends of Chuck's.

I wish I'd read enough Adventure-era stuff to have an original thought on this subject.

(In the cartoon Legion, it's a running gag in my "head canon" that Lu and Tinya both claim to be the official fourth Legionnaire. And they have mock arguments about it constantly.)

Maybe Sun Boy, who tried out for the LSH with Chuck, or Star Boy, who was ousted for much of the same time as Chuck, and then rejoined with him would be better choices . . . The real reason I suppose was trying to keep at least 2 of the 3 founders in the forefront of the scene for recognizability amongst the sea of less familiar faces. With that in mind, I'm surprised it wasn't Cos who held up the crystal thingy instead of PG. It's too bad Dave is no longer with us to answer these questions.

Looking at the pic (much nicer than the smudgy version I have) everyone is paired off. So, it makes sense that it would be a couple in the forefront. The senior couple in the Legion are Saturn Girl and Lightning Lad.

I like to think that Superboy would have got on well with Chuck. Chuck shows that's it's not power that makes you a hero. On a social level, Chuck is friendly, outgoing and provides a smooth transition to a person moving between the centuries. Not to mention Bouncing Boy would be at the HQ a lot when Superboy arrives.

Chuck is really part of the main clique of characters who are featured heavily in the early Adventure Era stories, so someone like Sun Boy might make a lot of sense.

For some reason I kind of imagine him and Cham as good friends, but really the only reason for associating the two that I can think of is Cham's impersonation of him in the Nadir storyline.

Is there anyone Chuck wouldn't have got on well with?

Although Lu loved Superboy, I can;t see Chick not getting on with the Boy of Steel.

Brainiac for the computo thing I suppose.

So Invisible Kid seems to be chatting up Quantum Queen in the upper left of that picture. Interesting!

The less said about what Chameleon Boy is looking at, the better.

Lyle's just asking about divergent realities in a Quantum omniverse, or more simply "I see dead peeps, and have fallen in love with one of them. Tell me it's possible."

I think Star Boy and Dream Girl would be a better fit for best man/woman couple with Chuck and Lu, but as I said, the ptb prolly wanted the founders front and center, or at least some of them.

I dunno - given the way LSH #62 starts, it seemed like they'd been together for at least a week or two. Identifying potential draftees and bringing them all in probably took a while.



I'm not sure that had as much to do with Jazmin having joined later, as her "I trusted Tinya..." speech after Saturn Girl's deception was revealed in Lost. Obviously, not something that had a logical reason, but a "human" sort of reaction to being burned once.

[Plus, leaders don't hug in front of the troops, as Robin (Tim) once told Cassie :)]

It could also be that, by that point, Lu and Chuck had known Garth and Imra for longer and so chose them. It had been mentioned a couple of times in v3 also that Tinya and Lu were very close friends during the Adventure Era, so maybe that's why Tinya is the one holding the crystal thingie.



I agree they'd been a team for at least a couple weeks, but I'm thinking of later issues which showed that the initial five weren't quite as close as they could have been. When Garth was kicked out in favor of Ayla, neither Tinya nor Lu were shown reacting much - Tinya was even openly welcoming Ayla to the team with a "not bad, it's about time we girls got some OOMPH around here!" Lu was shown noticing Garth's distress but she made no move to comfort him.

During the girls' night out in L*23 also, all the girls who went out (except Andromeda of course :p) acted like one huge clique. I'd say that new members were added so quickly in the early days (up until Zoe, Violet and Andromeda) that recruitment order had little to do with the friendships that formed. (Except maybe for Zoe and Violet, their joining together MAY have played a part in becoming best friends?)

When Lyle formed the Espionage Squad, Lu and Tinya were also fairly quick in siding with Lyle and working "against" Cos (I'm assuming that Lyle didn't tell the rest of the Squad that he was working WITH Cos the whole time!)



Also possible, as Lu and Lyle weren't there for Imra's fake Tinya. And Imra's reaction shouldn't be taken as evidence either

I haven't read through the entire thread, but here are some random thoughts after skim reading:

1. I don't know that founder status would have been all that important in the Bates/Cockrum run, at least as far as choice for best man and maid of honor would be concerned. I've always thought that Cary and/or Dave chose Imra because she was very prominent in their Legion stories, and Garth was her boyfriend, so, for the sake of simplicity, you have to keep the couples together.

2. Phantom Girl's role in holding the diamond makes a nice departure from that, leaving Jo to fend for himself.

3. People are assuming that Garth and Imra represent a best man/maid of honor tradition, but perhaps their presence reflects something else. Perhaps they are simply meant to be "witnesses," and so any two Legionnaires would do. Perhaps this is in keeping with Carggian tradition (as might be the oversized diamond).

4. This panel looks awesome blown up and with vibrant colors! Dave really outdid himself.