Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Long Live the Legion! Final Crisis # 6 Preview (spoilers)

This is DC shooting itself in the foot. This "original" Legion was clearly designed to appeal to older fans first and foremost. They know those fans remember old stories. Every change like this damages more fans' ability to see these characters as having continuity of existence with their old versions, and aside from big-name creators, that's this team's selling point. I don't think they have long-term viability. Sales on Legion of Three Worlds are less than I'd expect from a big event book, and not much higher than V5 started out.

I don't think Legion of Three Worlds is disappointing in sales, considering how FC is selling and the Superman arc sold I think sales are pretty strong.

However, what is the point of bringing back the "original" Legion if you're not going to let them be the originals. I mean, I almost don't care right now, because they are POINTLESS changes. It's not like saying, "hey look, pre-crisis Supergirl would be too hard to fold into the universe, so we're ignoring those stories for now until we can think of a clever solution", instead it's "hey, let's just make this sound like we pulled this idea out of our butt because people will think we're all cleaver that way rather than let people realize that there is a history to these objects..."

Plus I'm sick of EVERYTHING having to tie into Legion history, total aside issue but I DON'T CARE how Braal, Winnith, whatever were founded and why they are all anglo-saxons blah blah blah. They JUST ARE. Now tell STORIES and stop rewriting the past. I'm seriously getting to the point where I think all of the Legion's problems didn't come with Superboy leaving the Legion's history, but rather when writers focused more on changing/tweaking the past rather than moving forward with new adventures.

Anyways, the appeal of this Legion is clearly supposed to be that it is the "originals" and that their pre-Crisis history is intact, otherwise why not just start fresh again and NOT have the continuity (that apparently freaks so many people out) to deal with?

So whatever, 5 years from now when this mini finally ends maybe I'll care maybe I won't, but right now I could really care less to read about ANOTHER version of the Legion. If they were going to do that then they should have kept the threeboot alive and just used them.

What she said.

Amen. I'd rather read about another Legion entirely (like the 'Shooterboot' or Superboy's Legion or the gang with Shikari and Kid Quantum and Snakejectra) than have a half-assed kinda/not-really/fooled-you-sucker version that claims to be the original but isn't.

Yeah I'm fully on the side of the Morrison bashers as well cause I really think he's way overrated and his writing as cryptic as possible does not mean that it's actually good...

The Miracle Machine - a nice bit of Legion Lore which by sheer chance seems to have crossed Morrisons path, and hey, as Final Crisis sucked mostly for meanwhile five issues, why not make it even worse by picking up a deus-ex-machina solution to the problems instead of doing the regular Morrison ending - that is, no solution at all and leaving the readers bewildered what's going on?

Nice move. Veeeeery nice. Doesn't matter that the Miracle Machine is supposed to be destroyed. Retcon it!

By the way, I thought the reason that Superman was hardly seen during Final Crisis was that he was sitting at Louis Lanes bed, keeping her alive with his powers. Now suddenly he has entered some Multiverse-whatever thing - OFF PANEL, of course, cause this is a Morrison book and important things are always happening off panel, that's coooool writing which we regular guys just don't get - and reached the future. And Brainiac 5 - who has not appeared in Final Crisis til now - is suddenly there giving the grand miracle machine to the astounded audience...

In the very same scene you site, a Monitor appears and takes Superman with her into the multiverse. The story then picks up in Superman: Beyond, which I agree should have been part of the main series, but Superman leaving for the multiverse was at least covered in the series proper.

Anybody notice the Concentrator sitting in the background? It looks fully assembled.

I'm not familiar with that. What is a Concentrator?

I think it's what they use to make that frozen goop from fresh oranges.

I was thinking the same thing.

It's amazing that a concentrator can be used to bend and heal time-space also. I used to love as a child, licking that orange glop but licking time-space just makes me dizzy.

Sigh. Today's youth. What can you do with them?

Concentrator: The Legion's greatest secret, this device, invented by the team, can emit a near infinite amount of force-energy by concentrating all high-power energy sources in the universe. It can only be turned on for a few moments, as there is no power anywhere, natural or man-made, for as long as it is in operation (Adventure Comics 321).

See this link (near the bottom) for a picture.

Traitor!!

Pete Ross, you are hereby sentenced to lifelong solitary confinement inside a tiny, spherical prison cell containing only you, food, water and books.

Thanks Pete. And by the way, if I was included in the comment about "today's youth," I am honored. I'm probably older than you, but I haven't read that story yet.

I turned 50 recently; I'm just a few months younger than the Legion. That issue is the first time the Legion meets the Time Trapper in person, so you need to read it sometime.

And I guess I am guilty of revealing the secret of the concentrator, aren't I? I need to join Lightning Lad:

Notice how nobody ever had to go to the bathroom in the Silver Age?

That doesn't look like that bad a deal actually, add internet access, a decent chair and a potty to that cage and Garth's pretty well off. At least there's no cellmate with questionable morals to fend off.

Oh yeah, a bed would be nice too.

i'd add "alcoholic beverages" to that machine.

According to SECRETS OF THE LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES #1 , the Concentrator was created by Lucifer 7.

Ok, so has anyone gotten to read Final Crisis #6?

Yes. I stand by my previous statements. Bad plotting and writing. I can't wait until it's all over.

What I would call mistakes regarding Brainiac 5's timing (the 76 seconds) and his need to concentrate to remember the code makes me think it's not even him - it's Yera, impersonating him. That's so ridiculous that the other option - sloppy writing, continuity-wise - makes the more sense.

Oh, c'mon, who didn't want to see Brainy basically playing Hopscotch on the tiles?

Oh, I'm sure that seat lifts up to reveal a butt-sized hole. The cage is actually an improvised porto-potty. Garth just looks perturbed because he's waiting for everyone to leave so he can "go."

I had a dyslexic moment and read that as 'Proty-potty' which made me feel bad for the little doughboy...

The white bar of the cage under 'BOOKS' hides the fourth dispenser button, which produces an 'INFLATABLE GIRLFRIEND.'

He'd get more warmth out of that than he does out of Imra on this cover. Who needs a girlfriend like that?