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Re: LAST ROUND!!!! ACTION, Reboot or Threeboot? Ends Tuesday, 8/19
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Originally posted by Mystery Lad: Ricardo, the choices come from what will be appearing in LEGION OF THREE WORLDS. This isn't a 'what's your personal favorite version ever' poll of the characters.
Though it may turn out that other versions will become fair game as far as what's going to be in the 'one' LSH we're going to be getting after LTW, it's a logical assumption that that 'one' LSH will be drawn from the members of the three LSHs that are featured in LTW. Those three are the Geoff Johns' ACTION LSH, the current 'threeboot' and the reboot team as last seen.
So Classic= ACTION for the purposes of this particular thread. So Classic it is.
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Cham: This one turns out to be easier than I thought. Threeboot. My main problem with Cham is that for a long time he was portrayed essentially as a human with orange skin. I love the fact that in the Threeboot he isn't, he really is an alien. And I don't mind his occasional lack of antennae, either. So Threeboot it is. I didn't much care for the relationship to Brande or the secret friend thing, either.
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I *did* like Reboot's friendship with Lyle, though. And Cham as *the* mainstay of the original Espionage Squad shouldn't be discounted.
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For Cham, It's a bit of a tossup for me between ACTION and reboot. I'll take... ACTION/classic. Years more history there, and the TMK version puts it over the top.
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I think I'll go with Action Gim. He was one of my faves when I read Legion as a kid. And I really like him being a normal guy who can turn himself into a giant at will. For Cham, I'd say Threeboot. His (?) characterization is so refreshing currently, especially his interactions with Star Boy the last couple issues.
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Gim Allon - the reboot version really bothered me a lot since his death and I never liked him - definitely not one of my favorite - as for Reboot and 3boot - tug of war...I loved both of them until two of my favorite costume are Gim's classic Swan version and (again appeared in SW6 *made me giggle*) and also Grell version (the one with no pants...sexy leg...yeah!)...always loved the green-yellow-red color scheme with little stars - really stood out in the crowd. 3boot has the better personality than all of three of them. So I chose - - - Classic/Action.
Reep Daggle - oh boy...he's the most interesting character that is kind of easy to be written in comics....detective, spy, leader, comedian, shapeshifter, genius (actually one of the four smartest legionnaires), and others. I loved the interaction between Ayla and Cham (DnA version especially)....to me, he's the Legion's charmer...in any version. If I remember correctly, that SW6 Violet was mourning his death as she mulled that Cham "loved to laugh at dangers..." and it made me feel that it is truly representing Cham best. I want to split three way ties for each of them. So I choose....reboot Cham. (really hard one by the way.)
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Reboot Reep inspired me enough to write a story featuring him, so I'll go with the Reboot version.
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Its classic all the way for me with Cham, as he shined under the Adventure era, Levitz and then TMK. Really, I can see how like Brainy and Imra (for me anyway), those with the longest most 'face time' histories may end up being Action/Classic.
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Chameleon Boy: Classic. No choice. Everyone's kinda made my points for me
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Gim- Threeboot (as Colossal Boy)
Chameleon Boy- Action
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Cham is tough. The classic version is... well a classic. However, it was the Reboot version that showed me the most fun, so I'll vote Reboot for Cham.
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Cham is really tough as I liked them all and they were all different enough form each other. While I like the more alien aspect of the threeboot, and the fun reboot Cham, I think Reep, for me, will always be the guy who screwed up the Khundia mission then redeemed himself by going on a journey to Durla to regain his powers (and bonded with his Dad on the way). Add to that his great detective work, his loyalty and the always fun use of his powers, and I've got to go with Action Cham.
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COSMIC BOY: Action- 7.5, Reboot- 12, 3boot- 1.5
SATURN GIRL: Action- 14, Reboot- 5.5, 3boot- 1.5
LIGHTNING LAD: Action- 8, Reboot- 2.5, 3boot- 7.5
PHANTOM GIRL: Action- 4, Reboot- 3.5, 3boot- 11.5
TRIPLICATE GIRL: Action- 3, Reboot- 13, 3boot- 3
COLOSSAL BOY: Action- 10, Reboot- 2, 3boot- 5
CHAMELEON BOY: Action- 9, Reboot- 3, 3boot- 3
Next up is Invisible Kid. Which brings up a bit of a head-scratcher. Two, actually. Going by the Karate Kid, Triplicate Girl back-from-the-dead ACTION development, which I extrapolated to Reboot Colossal Boy, ACTION should have a Lyle Norg possiblity. That era includes Jacques as its Invisible Kid. And Jacques is also a little-seen (in more ways than one) character in reboot. 5 choices?
Not fair to either character.
So, here we'll pick which version of Lyle Norg you'd like to see post-LTW. When we get to Jacques, he'll get his own entry.
I will include a sidebar question.
INVISIBLE KID: Action, Reboot or Threeboot?
--SIDEBAR-- Should Lyle or Jacques be the 'official' INVISIBLE KID?
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Lyle was already dead when I really got into the Legion, in fact, the first new issue I remember reading was the one in which Validus squished him. My impressions of him from this version are wrapped up in that weird story, the frustrating Dream Dimension crapola and the great Secret Origins tale that featured Invisible Kid and Chemical King.
Well-remembered leader, scientific peer for Brainy, famous for clocking a recalcitrant teammate-- still the biggest hole he left was as founder of the Espionage Squad.
Threeboot Lyle has grown on me quite a bit. In recent issues, I felt glad for him when his dad gave him the 'you're a man now, son' speech and I felt protective of him as he shrugs off Timber Wolf's beyond-snide entering harassing comments. A big change from earlier in the series when I just didn't like him very much.
I pick reboot Lyle. Purely and simply he's one of my favorite LSH characters in any version. Top 3, probably. I love his friendship/rivalry with Brainy, his friendship with Cham, the spy background, the fact that *he* invented the flight rings, his confidence and self-knowledge (ie- he realized he's strategically the *last* guy who should be leader) and most of all the trait that should be his *real* power getting him membership... that of observation. Coupled with a willingness to speak out or act on what he observes.
For me, the LSH hasn't been the same since this Lyle 'faded to white', and it won't be all it could be if he isn't included.
SIDEBAR-- I think Lyle should be INVISIBLE KID, but I don't want to see Jacques ignored or marginalized, either.
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Oh, yes, Reboot Lyle. For all the reasons you mentioned. He should be the Legion's Invisible Kid, but Jacques should be able to join with a different power. I'd love to see the two of them interacting.
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Reboot Lyle is the best Invisible Kid ever to bear that name, including Jacques and the other Lyles. Of all the characters we've discussed thus far, Reboot Lyle is probably my favorite of all 24 of them (followed by Reboot Triad)! Great, great character and sorely missed!
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INVISIBLE KID: For me I Kid should be Lyle and as much as I enjoyed the reboot version and am growing to like the 3boot version, my preference is still with the Classic Lyle. He was a great leader, extremely intelligent, & humble enough to understand his limitations.
As for Jacques, I certainly believe he has a place in the Legion as well. Maybe his power could be adjusted so that he could hide things by making them invisible. That would be a pretty powerful and useful ability to bring to the team.
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I got into Legion with Jacques. My first exposure to Lyle was during TMK SW6 Batch. Never cared about his rebooted version (well, I never cared about that reboot in any case - not a single character!). So, Jacques, for me, is the Invisible Kid.
So, Lyle=3boot.
And I like the idea we have 2 different Invisible Kids. Can't see a problem with that.
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INVISIBLE KID: Reboot Lyle, no choice. I really didn't get much of him classic; I started the Legion in the 5YG, so I got SW6 Lyle but since that one probably wont exist, if what I've heard about L3W is true, then I stick with the best developed Lyle: Reboot. I just love him as the great spy/schemer (plus his costume? hooooooooooooooot ;P ) Originally posted by Doctor One: Oh, yes, Reboot Lyle. For all the reasons you mentioned. He should be the Legion's Invisible Kid, but Jacques should be able to join with a different power. I'd love to see the two of them interacting. Hey, DocOne, why not the Dimension Shifting powers Jaques had in v3 that weren't stable? It would allow both of them one the team, and would give a healthy nod to Legion history at the same time.
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I think that we need to separate Lyle and Jacques apart since they are completely different. So why not Invisible kid "II"? so as for Lyle - I really like the reboot version because he has the mysterious aura around him ("love - C" - remember?) and his connection to esponiage before joining the Legion. so Reboot it is.
Please save Jacques in later entry okay?
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INVISIBLE KID: Action
--SIDEBAR-- Should Lyle or Jacques be the 'official' INVISIBLE KID?: Jacques
Maybe Lyle could come back as a 31st century Deadman.
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Jacques will get his own entry later. ACTION votes in this round are for a prospective back-from-the-dead Lyle Norg, not for Jacques. The SIDEBAR question is the place to address preferences between Lyle and Jacques.
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From what I've seen and read about Reboot Lyle, I think he would get my vote, for reasons folks have already stated.
And I agree that Lyle should be the "official" Invisible Kid.
The only character in all of literature who has been described as "badnass" while using the phrase "vile miscreant."
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As a sidenote, I have absolutely nothing against Jacques at all--he was Invisible Kid when (or a few issues after) I started reading the Legion. But Reboot Lyle stands as my favorite Invisible Kid version. I'd love if they could both coexist somehow without either having to die!
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