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Re: What about Mon-El/Valor/M'Onel in the new Legion?
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I know this isnt gonna be the most popular opinon, but I never really like Valor or Superboy all that much. They were never interesting to me. Eh, I know i'm the minority, but to me, the Legion always seemed more interesting with out them.


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#15197 12/31/04 04:07 AM
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I know this isnt gonna be the most popular opinon, but I never really like Valor or Superboy all that much. They were never interesting to me. Eh, I know i'm the minority, but to me, the Legion always seemed more interesting with out them.
It is probably true that extremely powerful characters lead to more difficulties in trying to write interesting stories; however, I think that a character that has spent one thousand years in a ghostly state with almost no human contact could have a quite remarkable outlook on life.

This could lead to interesting situations and interactions with other kind of characters if addressed properly.

Furthermore Mon-El's classic costume is, in its simplicity, one of the most somberly elegant uniforms among all legionnaires costumes smile

Re: What about Mon-El/Valor/M'Onel in the new Legion?
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Valor SW6, I agree 100%. Mon-El/Valor to me is different than Superman(blah) cause he has this metaphysical aspect to him. he would fit into the Vertigo universe quite nicely actually.

I've compared him to the Phantom Stranger...and a Samuraii as well. Himself alone and Jorg-El are my nods to the character. I think he's super cool and that solitary confinement for a 1000 years definately is what makes the character work.

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I'm not sure if there was ever an explanantion as to why Proty replaced Garth in Garth's body while Eltro joined Lar in Lar's body. Perhaps someone else can clear that up for us.
I don't recall if they ever said or not. It seems possible to me that, while Garth was well and truly dead, there was still a spark of life left in Lar but Eltro was too freaked out by events to notice.


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Re: What about Mon-El/Valor/M'Onel in the new Legion?
#15200 12/31/04 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by Portfolio Boy:
A thought just occured to me. There are rumors of CRISIS2 coming in 2005. I wonder if Waid is not using Mon-El for now due to whatever changes might be coming. Better to wait than to introduce a character only to have to retcon somethings once changes in DCU are introduced....

.... ya think?
Excellent point.

IF DC's going Crisis again, let's see no connection with the new LSH til that's as sorted out as DC ever sorts out things, and prevent the need for another "Mordruverse"-style band-aid just months into a new series.


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Re: What about Mon-El/Valor/M'Onel in the new Legion?
#15201 12/31/04 02:19 PM
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A thought just occured to me. There are rumors of CRISIS2 coming in 2005. I wonder if Waid is not using Mon-El for now due to whatever changes might be coming. Better to wait than to introduce a character only to have to retcon somethings once changes in DCU are introduced....

.... ya think?
It's a possibility. Waid definitely said the Legion would not be interacting with the 21st Century for some time because of big changes in 2005. To me that implies some sort of reboot.


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#15202 12/31/04 02:21 PM
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You could make a case that the Stasis Zone is "outside" the timestream and have the 3.0 team pull Valor out before the 2.0 team did, though that would to my mind neccesitate a retcon to the current Superboy's past to account for his involvement in 2.0's Valor resue.
I don't see that it's necessary. All you have to assume is that there are alternate futures. In one future, the reboot Legion rescues Valor. In another, the WaK Legion rescues Valor. The timestream itself is what diverges, meaning that everything that exists in the universe up to the point of divergence continues to exist in *both* realities. It's just that from that point on things become different. So if Valor goes into the Stasis Zone in the 21st Century, but reality doesn't diverge until the 25th Century, then Valor is there in both realities.


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#15203 12/31/04 04:15 PM
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Never let "continuity" (quotes because of DC's use of the term) stand in the way of a good story.


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Re: What about Mon-El/Valor/M'Onel in the new Legion?
#15204 12/31/04 05:09 PM
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i am tired of daxamites and their 'kryptonian/superman' level powers

why does every super-team need someone like that? ultra boy has the abilities in a way that is easier to utilize in stories

i'd prefer to keep the Legion its own entity, rather than introducing a super-stand-in so early on ... especially when new readers will immediately identify a daxamite with the S-family (the powers are way too similar) ... i want to see what happens in the Legion without an invincible daxamite solution to every problem

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I still get the feeling that they'll introduce one of the Daxamites we've come to know but not very soon. Mon-El actually appeared and went away before becoming a Legionnaire the first time and Waid's a fanboy too so I think he'll do the story justice when they decide to get around to it.

We know the Legion existed for a while before we first met them way back in 1958 so it's cool with me if they're around for a while before we see them interact with the DCU this time too.

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