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Re: Legion love lives...!
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Instead of constantly switching IDs to edit, I'm going to repost every Legionnaire up until now in one post. laugh

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I take it we're breaking down the eras as follows:

Adventure
Action
v2
v3
v4
Reboot, pre-DnA
Reboot, DnA era

There's overlap between v2 and v3, but everything else is sequential. And the Shady/Mon romance began during the first Mordru story, when they were trapped together in Smallville.

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So did that story happen in Adventure or Action, EDE?

Also, wasn't Shady introduced in Action making her Brainy crush Action-era not Adventure-era?

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Didn't Shady show an interest in Superboy during the Mordru story in Adventure? Isn't that what got Lu all upset?

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EDE, I'd add "Superboy" comics in between Action and V2, just to be a tad more complete.

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I usually don't differentiate "Superboy", "SLSH", and "LSH, v2", but it might be useful to distinguish those eras. However, is it worth doing all three? If not, should SLSH get lumped with Superboy or LSH, v2?

And Lu was upset because that hussy Shady was all over Mon, but Superboy didn't even care enough to walk her home.

This was all during the late Adventure era.

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COSMIC BOY (Rokk Krinn), COS, POLESTAR, FOUNDER LEGION
Triplicate Girl (Luornu Durgo) Adventure-era 'seduction' during the Girls' Revolt story; object of postboot Lu's admiration
Sinde, preboot brief fling; postboot rumors of relationship before joining Legion
Chameleon Boy (Reep Daggle) Adventure-era case in which they posed as a couple
Night Girl (Lydda Jath) Adventure-era admirer; preboot couple beginning with Action run; wife in v4 (son Pol Jath Krinn); postboot admirer; wife in the Adult Legion stories
Saturn Girl (Imra Ardeen) SW6 versions mutually attracted; postboot versions mutually attracted, apparent relationship during 'Team 20' arc; Superboy's Legion versions dated; Arthurian Elseworlds versions married
XS (Jenni Ognats) postboot admirer
Argent (Toni Monetti) postboot flirtation during the "Universe Ablaze" crossover
Kid Quantum II (Jazmin Cullen) postboot relationship beginning during DnA's run

LIGHTNING BOY, LIGHTNING LAD (Garth Ranzz AND Proty II), LIVE WIRE, ELEMENT LAD II (Jarth)
Saturn Girl (Imra Ardeen) Adventure-era couple, married beginning in v2 (twin sons Graym & Garridan, twin daughters Dacey & Dorrit); SW6 relationship; postboot relationship, postboot engagement beginning with DnA; wife in Adult Legion stories; Arthurian Elseworlds versions married
Cera Kesh (later Emerald Empress) SW6 Garth hit on her
Jancel Ardeen, postboot admirer

SATURN GIRL (Imra Ardeen), FAIR LEGION
Lightning Lad/Live Wire (Garth Ranzz) Adventure-era couple, married beginning in v2 (twin sons Graym & Garridan, twin daughters Dacey & Dorrit); SW6 relationship; postboot relationship, postboot engagement beginning with DnA; husband in Adult Legion stories; Arthurian Elseworlds versions married
Superboy (Clark Kent/Kal-el) Adventure-era 'seduction' during the Girls' Revolt story; Supergirl tried to matchmake them during early 'Adult Legion' story
Apollo (Tal Obrin) Adv. #350 flirtation due to mental domination
Timber Wolf (Brin Londo) preboot they shared an 'intimate moment' on an asteroid
Proty, v4 retcon into the role of her husband
Cosmic Boy (Rokk Krinn) SW6 versions were mutually attracted; postboot versions were mutually attracted, apparent relationship during 'Team 20' arc; Superboy's Legion versions dated; Arthurian Elseworlds versions married
Ultra Boy (Jo Nah) postboot, posed as his missing wife during Legion Lost and shared a kiss

PHANTOM GIRL (Tinya Wazzo), APPARITION, PHASE
Star Boy (Thom Kallor) Adventure-era 'seduction' during the Girls' Revolt story; v4 rumors of a past fling
Ultra Boy (Jo Nah) Adventure-era couple, engaged during 5YG; SW6 versions dated; postboot dated and married (son Cub); husband in Adult Legion stories (son Ronn, daughter Arna); Superboy's Legion versions dated
Timber Wolf (Brin Londo) postboot admirer beginning in DnA era

TRIPLICATE GIRL (Luornu Durgo), DUO DAMSEL, MONO MAID, TRIAD
Cosmic Boy (Rokk Krinn) Adventure-era 'seduction' during Girls' Revolt story; postboot object of her admiration
Invisible Kid (Lyle Norg) Adventure-era 'seduction' during Girls' Revolt story
Brainiac 5 (Querl Dox) Adventure-era 'seduction' during Girls' Revolt story
Superboy (Clark Kent/Kal-el) Adventure-era object of her admiration
Bouncing Boy (Chuck Taine) Adventure-era couple, married beginning in v2; postboot they've dated; husband in Adult Legion stories (unnamed son)
Nam'Lor , Action-era brief 'hyper-aura' induced fling as "Lelith"
Valor/M'Onel (Lar Gand), v4 retcon (Superboy to Lar) object of her admiration; SW6 object of her admiration; postboot object of her admiration
Colossal Boy (Gim Allon) v4 affair
Superboy II (Kon-el/Conner Kent) postboot flirtation
Ultra Boy (Jo Nah) postboot "Swan's Way" reality flirtation
Element Lad (Jan Arrah) postboot date with Triad Orange
Arsenal (Roy Harper) postboot flirtation during the "Universe Ablaze" crossover with Triad Purple

CHAMELEON BOY (Reep Daggle), CHAM, CHAMELEON, ORANGE LEGION
Supergirl (Kara Zor-el/Linda Danvers) Adventure-era seduction during the Girls' Revolt story
Cosmic Boy (Rokk Krinn) Adventure-era case in which they posed as a couple
Princess Elwinda, Adventure-era engagement
Janice Warren, Action-era couple
Amb. Aplynn Jeryl, v2 flirtation
Laurel Gand, retconned Adventure-era seduction during the Girls' revolt story
Spark (Ayla Ranzz) postboot flirtation
Sensor (Jeka Wynzorr) postboot flirtation

COLOSSAL BOY (Gim Allon), LEVIATHAN, MICRO LAD
Shrinking Violet (Salu Digby) preboot admirer beginning in at least the Bates/Shooter era; postboot admirer/object of his admiration
Gigi Cusimano, v3 retcon as pre-Adventure-era girlfriend
Yera, married beginning in second Levitz-era
Triplicate Girl/Duo Damsel/Mono Maid (Luornu Durgo) v4 affair
Gossamer (Ayla Ranzz) SW6 version set Gim straight when he misinterpreted her intentions/affections
Kinetix (Zoe Saugin) postboot, object of his admiration

INVISIBLE KID (Lyle Norg)
Triplicate Girl (Luornu Durgo) Adventure-era 'seduction' during the Girls' Revolt story
Markita, preboot date who schemed to marry him
Myla, preboot ghostly love interest with whom he may have spent all eternity
Condo Arlik, postboot love interest, sender of "C" note
Brainiac 5 (Querl Dox) postboot, possible admirer

KID QUANTUM (James Cullen, Soul of Antares)
Computo II (Danielle Foccart) SW6-era flirtation

BRAINIAC 5 (Querl Dox), BRAINY, B-5, BRAINIAC 5.1, GREEN LEGION, SMART LEGION
Supergirl (Kara Zor-el/Linda Lee Danvers) Adventure-era object of his affection
Shadow Lass (Tasmia Mallor) Adventure-era admirer
Dr. Chaseer, v3 flirtation with benefits
Laurel Gand/Andromeda, v4 retconned to be the Adventure-era object of his affection; SW6 versions dated; postboot admirer
Celeste McCauley Rockfish, v4 flirtation
Invisible Kid (Lyle Norg) postboot, possible object of his affection

(Laurel Gand, a.k.a. Leala Linder), SATAN GIRL*, UNKNOWN BOY*, TIGER ROSE, ANDROMEDA, SISTER ANDROMEDA
Brainiac 5 (Querl Dox) Adventure-era Supergirl admirer; v4 retconned to be a Laurel Gand admirer; SW6 versions dated; postboot Andromeda admirer
Chameleon Boy (Reep Daggle) retconned Adventure-era seduction during the Girls' revolt story
Rond Vidar, common-law husband of Laurel Gand during 5YG (daughter Lauren)

ULTRA BOY (Jo Nah), REFLECTO II, EMERALD DRAGON, BOLD LEGION
An Ryd, pre-Adventure-era girlfriend
Phantom Girl/Apparition (Tinya Wazzo) Adventure-era couple, engaged during 5YG; SW6 versions dated; wife in Adult Legion stories (son Ronn, daughter Arna); Superboy's Legion versions dated; postboot dated & married (son Cub)
Spider Girl (Sussa Paka) v4 rebound woman while Jo mourned Tinya; postboot versions dated
Ginny, v4 rebound girlfriend
Saturn Girl (Imra Ardeen) postboot, posed as his missing wife during Legion Lost and shared a kiss
Princess Projectra, married in the Elseworlds story, Another Nail

STAR BOY (Thom Kallor), SIR PRIZE
Xynthia, Adventure-era girlfriend
Phantom Girl (Tinya Wazzo) Adventure-era 'seduction' during the Girls' Revolt story; v4 rumors of a past fling
Dream Girl/Miss Terious/Dreamer (Nura Nal/Nura Schnappin Nal) Adventure-era couple up through mid v3; postboot couple; wife in Adult Legion stories
Yvyya Val, wife in v4

SHRINKING VIOLET (Salu Digby), VI, VIRUS, EMERALD VEYE, LEVIATHAN II, VIOLET, ATOM GIRL
Duplicate Boy (Ord Quelu/Quelu Ord) Adventure-era couple; husband in Adult Legion stories (unnamed son & daughter)
Matter-Eater Lad (Tenzil Kem) Action-era date; SW6-era admirer
Sun Boy (Dirk Morgna) - v3 flirtation
Lightning Lass (Ayla Ranzz) v4 couple
Devlin O'Ryan, SW6-era flirtation/date
Leviathan (Gim Allon) postboot object of her admiration
Chuck Taine, postboot - dated once (as "friends")
Ferro (Andrew Nolan) postboot admirer

SUN BOY (Dirk Morgna), INFERNO, WILDFIRE II, NRG, PY'RE
Shrinking Violet (Salu Digby) v3 flirtation
Laurel Kent, dated in v3
Gigi Cusimano, dated in v3
Circe, dated in v4
Catspaw (April Dumaka) SW6-era flirtation
"pink-skinned girl", SW6-era flirtation/stalker
Keiki, SW6-era flirtation
X-Bomb Betty, SW6-era flirtation

BOUNCING BOY (Chuck Taine)
Iresa, Adventure-era girlfriend
Triplicate Girl-Duo Damsel-Mono Maid/Triad (Luornu Durgo) Adventure-era couple, married beginning in v2; postboot they've dated; wife in Adult Legion stories (unnamed son)
Violet (Salu Digby) postboot - dated once (as "friends")

MATTER-EATER LAD (Tenzil Kem)
Shrinking Violet (Salu Digby) Action-era date; SW6-era object of his admiration
Eyeful Ethel (Ethel Lyn Niwtyn) preboot date as the result of being the "prize" on a dating gameshow
"Madame Prosecutor", v4 flirtation
Saturn Queen (Eve Aries) married in v4

MON-EL (Lar Gand), LEGIONNAIRE LEMON, MARVEL LAD, VALOR (" AND Eltro Gand), CHAMPION, M'ONEL, WANDERER, VALOROUS LEGION
Shadow Lass (Tasmia Mallor) Adventure-era couple, married late in v3-v4; postboot flirtation
Triplicate Girl/Triad (Luornu Durgo) v4 retconned (Superboy to Lar) admirer; SW6 admirer; postboot admirer
Glorith, v4 admirer/stalker

MYSTERY LAD, ELEMENT LAD (Jan Arrah), ALCHEMIST, PROGENITOR
Lightning Lass (Ayla Ranzz) Adventure-era 'seduction' during the Girls' Revolt story
Marya, Adventure-era flirtation/date
Shvaughn Erin, v3 couple into v4, where she is retconned as Sean Erin
Triad Orange (Luornu Durgo) postboot date
Monstress (Candi "Princess" Pyponte-LeParc III) postboot flirtation/friendship

LIGHTNING LAD II, LIGHTNING LASS (Ayla Ranzz), LIGHT LASS, PULSE, GOSSAMER, SPARK, LIVE WIRE II
Element Lad (Jan Arrah) Adventure-era seduction during the Girls' revolt story
Lone Wolf/Timber Wolf (Brin Londo) Adventure-era couple up through v2; husband in Adult Legion stories (twin sons Brin & Bran, daughter Loni)
Magnetic Kid (Pol Krinn) v3 flirtation
Shrinking Violet or Vi (Salu Digby) v4 relationship
Mordecai, SW6-era admirer
Leviathan (Gim Allon) SW6-era version was set straight when he misunderstood her intentions/affections
Chameleon (Reep Daggle) postboot flirtation

DREAM GIRL (Nura Nal), DREAMY, MISS TERIOUS, DREAMER (Nura Schnappin Nal)
Star Boy/Sir Prize (Thom Kallor) Adventure-era couple up through mid v3; husband in Adult Legion stories
Kenz Nuhor, Adventure-era ex-boyfriend/stalker
Atmos (Marak Russen) v3 affair, possibly due to mental domination
unnamed flirtations, numerous affairs and indiscretions seen or alluded to v3-v4

FERRO LAD (Andrew Nolan), FERRO, IRON LEGION
Inferno (Sandy Anderson) postboot object of his admiration
Violet (Salu Digby) postboot object of his admiration
Dr. Mollie D'Ennum, postboot object of his admiration/flirtation

KARATE KID (Val Armorr)
Noriko Kashu, pre-v2 girlfriend
Princess Projectra/Queen Projectra, v2 girlfriend, married in v3
Iris Jacobs, preboot admirer in the 20th c.
Lialla, postboot flirtation

PRINCESS PROJECTRA ("Jeckie"), QUEEN PROJECTRA, SENSOR GIRL, SENSOR (Jeka Wynzorr), COILED LEGION
Karate Kid (Val Armorr) v2 couple, married in v3
Chameleon (Reep Daggle) postboot flirtation
Ultra Boy (Jo Nah) married in the Elseworlds story, Another Nail

SHADOW LASS (Tasmia Mallor), SHADY, SHADOW WOMAN, UMBRA, DARK LEGION
Brainiac 5 (Querl Dox) Adventure-era object of her admiration
Mon-el/Valor-M'Onel (Lar Gand) Adventure-era couple, married late in v3-v4; postboot flirtation
Eltro Gand, v4 retcon into the role of her husband

CHEMICAL KING (Condo Arlik)
Invisible Kid (Lyle Norg), postboot love interest, sender of "C" note

LONE WOLF, TIMBER WOLF (Brin Londo), T-WOLF, FURBALL
Lightning Lass/Light Lass (Ayla Ranzz) Adventure-era couple up through v2; wife in Adult Legion stories (twin sons Brin & Bran, daughter Loni)
Saturn Girl (Imra Ardeen) preboot they shared an 'intimate moment' on an asteroid
Marella Tao, dated in v3
Gemini (Aria Campbell) v4 flirtation
Jewel (Mysa Nal) late v4 flirtation
Apparition (Tinya Wazzo) postboot object of his admiration beginning in DnA era

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I know it's a long post, but it allows us all to analyzye every Legionnaire, thus far, and fill in any missing blanks or edit any typos.

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#12730 10/09/04 05:29 PM
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Looks like Tenzil's prosecutorial friend will remain unnamed!

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Why do you say that, Eryk? Is she an unnamed character?

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Re-read the issue today, and I couldn't find a name, beyond "Madame Prosecutor".

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Thanks for researching it.

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Cool moment in the issue: When Tenzil excavates the Batcave claiming it as evidence of "The Titan Presidents of Bismoll", his theory is disputed by Prof. Bob Finger. As in Bob Kane and Bill Finger, creators of Batman.

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ERG-1, WILDFIRE (Drake Burroughs), ATOM'X (Randall Burroughs), BLAST-OFF (Jahr Drake Ningle), FIRE LEGION
Kerri Wong, pre-v2 girlfriend
Dawnstar/Shikari Lonestar, v2 (?) flirtation/intimate friendship up through v3; postboot DnA-era flirtation/intimate friendship
Lamprey (Tayla Skot) v3 admirer
Nightwind (Berta Skye Haris) v3 admirer

TYROC (Troy Stewart), SCREAM OF THE DEVIL
Computo II (Danielle Foccart) SW6-era admirer

DAWNSTAR, DAWNY, BOUNTY, SHIKARI (Shikari "Kari" Lonestar)
Wildfire v2 (?) flirtation/intimate friendship up through v3; postboot DnA-era flirtation/intimate friendship
Jhodan, v3 flirtation w/ benefits

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#12736 10/10/04 08:23 AM
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Atom'x is from Xanthu (where he served in the Amazers) while Blast-Off is from Earth, if I recall.

Excellent job, Miss T!

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I'll have to demur about my sister ...

Dawnstar was not rebooted as Shikari. DnA, who created Shikari, have stressed this in interviews and on line repeatedly. Shikari had profound differences from Dawny in origin, culture, conceptual use, body, wings, unique "power" skills, social attitudes, and other areas. Please change this and separate Shikari for her own entry.

I'd demur about Jhodan ("TalesLSH" 321-323 and several mentions afterwards) being simply a "flirtation." It's clearly implied that Dawnstar spent two of three nights in very close liaison with the Kol priest, in more than just neighboring sleeping bags. The Comics Code wouldn't allow showing that, even in 1986.

After the "Bounty" episode, her relationship with Wildfire didn't involve any "flirtation," I'd contend, since by then they knew each other too well.

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Until such time as the one, true Dawnstar returns (and until we find out if Shikari will still exist in the main DCU - either as a Titan, etc.), I will connect Dawny and Shikari in this work. I do recognize there are several differences, but there are subtle connections too. Differences/connections exist between Jeckie and Jeka, too. And, I've read DnA's intent before so I'm familiar that argument. Basically, I can see the point of your argument but I disagree. For the purposes of this thread, I will list them as two different versions of the same character. If this information were collected for the Encyclopedia forum, then yes, the characters should probably be delineated.

I'll change Jhodan to flirtation w/ benefits as I listed Brainy's relationship with Dr. Chaseer.

And, as I remember it, Wildfire was gone in v4. After Dirk died his life force/energy form became Wildfire II and NRG - correct?

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At least you're noting that you're simply ... choosing to say so. Just as Chaim Keller, about the same matter in his Legion.hlp file, is simply ... choosing to say so.

Whether either one fits the evidence of the characters' details and the statements of those who created them is, o'course, quite another matter. You're both simply ... saying so.

If this isn't, in fact, a collaborative reference effort (as with the Legion World Directory), if this is shaped so closely by your own choices, I would see this as being more appropriate as a OneVision thread over in Bits -- so it isn't misleading.

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Grey, I'm not going to argue this matter with you. I realize how much you like Dawnstar and you apparently feel strongly about it. I'm posting my take on the characters. You've expressed the other side of the opinion; therefore posters capable of reading more than one post at a time, will see both sides of the argument and can make their own decision. This work IS collaborative, but I reserve the right to collect the data that I find cogent and dress it up with my pretty colors. Just as you may post the way you see it. No one is being misled when they have the ability to make their own judgments without being pressured.

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White Witch (Mysa Nal) v3 flirtation/intimate friendship

INVISIBLE KID II (Jacques Foccart), EVANESCE
Infectious Lass (Drura Sehpt) v4 wife

HAG, XOLA AQ, WHITE WITCH (Mysa Nal of Naltor), JEWEL, LADY MYSA
Blok, v3 flirtation/intimate friendship
Mordru, 5YG husband
Timber Wolf (Brin Londo) late v4 flirtation
Dragonmage (Xao Jin) postboot flirtation

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For the ones you have questions on, Drura & Jacques were indeed married in v4 and Xao was just a close friend and apprentice to Mysa. Feelings may have developed, though, on both sides.

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Polla, Adventure-era (?) girlfriend
Lightning Lass (Ayla Ranzz) v3 flirtation

POLAR BOY (Brek Bannin)
Styx, v4 relationship
Stiletta, v4 relationship

QUISLET

TELLUS (Ganglios)

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Paging Ester, Future, and anyone else who pays attention to this thread.

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All is well that I can tell. Quislet and Tellus had few friendships going and no romance to my knowledge. The other too seem accurate, though I can't recall Polla at all and Styx & Stiletta were crushing on Brek more than anything.

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I hope Ester gives some feedback on Polla and Styx & Stiletta.

I'm almost done with this! YAY!

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