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The FEMS Edition is almost complete and the Auburns are getting there, but I want to get the competition for those with black hair organized. As always, there's a form to fill out. Things are just a TAD different this time...

There will be 5 male contestants and 5 female contestants competing. Normally, all characters from Legion comics are invited to join, whether they are villains, actual Legionnaires, supporting characters, etc. This time, though, I really want to limit the number of actual Legionnaires included, so...

1. Which 2 male Legionnaires would you like to see in this competition? Why?

2. Which 2 female Legionnaires would you like to see in this competition? Why?

3. Which 3 male non-Legionnaires would you like to see in this competition? Why?

4. Which 3 female non-Legionnaires would you like to see in this competition? Why?


Answering "why" will be very important. Please include that part in your response! YOur reason may be more compelling than the popular vote.

Note- if less than two Legionnaires are voted in, that request will stand. So, if NO Legionnaires are nominated and voted in, that is acceptable. (I think that'll be unlikely, but we'll see.)

5. I would like to have the first judges come back for this competition; Saturn Girl, Emerald Empress and Marte Allon. However, Ms. Allon is often busy. Is there another person who might make a good fill-in?

6. Dream Girl is the obvious choice for host, but popular opinion can definitely change that. Is there someone else that you'd like to see host?

7. We at Pinup Models, Inc. already have some interesting ideas for challenges, but is there an idea, location, prop, etc. that you'd like to see used in this competition?

8. Anything else?

Thank you!

Me first!

1. Which 2 male Legionnaires would you like to see in this competition? Why?

I think it'd be fun to take Superboy out of his normal look. Do something kinda wacky with him.

Tyroc is a historically misunderstood character, so I'd like him to see some spotlight.

2. Which 2 female Legionnaires would you like to see in this competition? Why?

Dawnstar and Kid Quantum II
I LOVE Dawnstar and miss her, so she could use a boost. KQII is a bombshell, and I'd love to see her work it.

3. Which 3 male non-Legionnaires would you like to see in this competition? Why?

Phantom Lad because it's fun to bring a fairly obscure character into the forefront.

Jungle King, because he's pure male model.

Dynamo Boy because he's a totally different type.


4. Which 3 female non-Legionnaires would you like to see in this competition? Why?

Laurel Kent, because she is the most beautiful character in Legion comics, ever!

Captain Frake. She's evil and mean!

Mystelor because she's glamorous and beautiful and I'd like to see her compete with Laurel Kent.


5. Winema Wazzo seems like a natural replacement for Marte Allon, though she'll surely be tougher.

6. Long live hostess, Dream Girl!

Male Legionnaires:
-Rokk. To me he's the quintessential black-haired Legionnaire. Even if he dyed his hair in the threeboot.
-And I support your nomination for Superboy

Female Legionnaires:
-Violet. I especially like the short-haired, scarred version of her from the 5YL period. Tough and beautiful.
-Danielle Foccard, alias Computo

Male non-Legionnaires
-Dragonmage. A bit of East Asian exotism...
-How about Color Kid? I'm sure you could do good things with him.
-Here's a ball from left field: the Prophet (from the Omen storyline)

Female non-Legionnaires
-Winema Wazzo: I want her as a contestant, not as a judge!
-Captain Frake would be great.
-Ivy, from 5YL. I suppose she was a Legionnaire for a short while, but I think she fits better in this category. And she'd be different allright.

As for judges, how about Tellus? Or Blok?

Personally, I'd like to have another hostess. In my opinion Dawnstar would be much better as a hostess than as a contestant.

So I made a list, for ease of reference, 'cause I hate reading through other people's reccomendations after posting my own and thinking, 'Oh! I forget them! Can I change my vote?'

Legion
Male – Cosmic Boy, Tyroc, Superman, Invisible Kid II, Star Boy (threeboot), Mon-El, Bouncing Boy, Chemical King, Matter-Eater Lad,

Female – Dawnstar, Phantom Girl, Kid Quantum II, Shadow Lass, Shrinking Violet,

Other
Male – Rond Vidar, Blockade Boy, Color Kid, Dragonmage, Kent Shakespeare, Karate Kid II (Myg), Kid Quantum I, Magnetic Kid, Cosmic King, Visi-Lad, Ron-Karr, Phantom Lad, Ol-Vir, Tyr, Aviax, Re-Animage,

Female – Night Girl, Life Lass, Laurel Kent

Cosmic Boy and Mon-El.

Cos, because not since the day's of Grell and the nip-exposing-man-kini have we seen Cos letting it all hang out. There was a time when he *wasn't* known for talking too much, and actually was the quietest of the founders!

Mon, because we've *never* seen him doing anything frivolous and it would be interesting, and perhaps scary, to see him doing something like this. (Perhaps with Shady pushing him out on to the stage?)

Phantom Girl just seems like a natural showperson for this sort of thing, with the 'hip' clothes and the great hair. Plus, if Winema is a judge, there can be conflict-of-interest drama in the judge-box.

I'd love Shady, but I think I'd like to see more of Kid Quantum II instead. Jaz was hot with her short hair, legs-accentuating costume and purple lips. If Tinya becomes the host, I'd go with Kid Quantum and Shady.

Gosh, and I just noticed that I nominated a bunch of couples (Mon and Shady, and, even better, Cos and both KQII *and* Night Girl! Fight!! Get the whipped cream!).

Rond Vidar. Even before the little green accessory of space, he was an interesting character.

Ron-Karr. 'Cause he's gonna be flattened by the competition, and that's his specialty! Mr. 'I can cut you in half with my pinkie!' gets no love.

Myg (Karate Kid II). I loved the Timber Wolf & Sensei on Lythl issue. Legion storytelling at it's best, and Myg has a strong look, and, ever more fun, a great overconfident / arrogant attitude.

Night Girl. One word. Beehive!

Laurel Kent! I love Laurel, I really, really do. Space-poncho!

And, uh, there weren't a lot of choices I could find, so I'm gonna leave it at Night Girl and Laurel Kent for now, until other people propose some raven-haired 'others' for me to say, 'Oh yeah!' about...

President Phantom Mom, definitely, with at least one appearance of the severe eye-goggle things that make her look like a hit-woman.

If she doesn't make it as a model, I think Phantom Girl would make a terrific host. She's never lacked personality, even if not being portrayed as 'glam' as Dreamy.

It's fun to imagine Tinya done up in the sorts of outfits that Cher uses to shock and awe her fans.

Don't get me wrong, I like Dreamy, but Ayla was a breathe of fresh air (and my, how perky and globular one looks under anti-gravity!), and I think it would be fun to continue that trend.

Uniforms? Not the same uniform, 'cause that would be boring, different types of Uniform of Space!

Less action shots, more 'posing.' I'm a huge fan of action shots and fight scenes, but they don't always show the model in the most flattering light (or pose, or whatever). I think the posed photo-shoot shots end up being the best ones, while the 'fight shots' tend to not end up as flattering for anyone involved.

Have fun! I know I will, with my arduous task of clicking the thread multiple times a day to see if it's been updated!

Thank you Doctor One and Set! With only three of us making nominations, we already have some characters that have been seconded:

Judge Winema Wazzo

Male Legionnaires Superboy and Cosmic Boy

Female Legionnaire Kid Quantum II

Female Non Legionnaires Laurel Kent and Cpt. Frake

Obviously, this is only the beginning, so things will change a LOT, but I appreciate the early returns. I LOVE this part of these competitions!

That was just counting nominations. The reasons "why" definitely matter, and could alter the outcome...

1. Which 2 male Legionnaires would you like to see in this competition? Why?

Mon-el - for the muscles,man, for the muscles. And we really need a Mon-el fix. I'd prefer him to Superbo--er man (we don't want to start a lawsuit )

Cosmic Boy - Rokk can really work the mojo. And despite rumors/evidence of B-slapping, I think Rokk also has a sensative side that doesn't often get shown.


2. Which 2 female Legionnaires would you like to see in this competition? Why?

Shrinking Violet - Under-appreciated, this could be her chance to shine like the star she is.

Phantom Girl - Well, it was either her or Shadow Lass and having had Lady Memory in the Fems competition, I would prefer Tinya to Tasmia.


3. Which 3 male non-Legionnaires would you like to see in this competition? Why?

Color Kid - no particular reason
Rond Vidar - ditto
Jungle King - (I looked at the other nominations and said "Oh yeah")


4. Which 3 female non-Legionnaires would you like to see in this competition? Why?

Night Girl - Because of the Beehive baby
Life Lass - Just because
Laurel Kent - (I looked at the other nominees and went "oh yeah")


5. I would like to have the first judges come back for this competition; Saturn Girl, Emerald Empress and Marte Allon. However, Ms. Allon is often busy. Is there another person who might make a good fill-in?

Winema Wazzo

6. Dream Girl is the obvious choice for host, but popular opinion can definitely change that. Is there someone else that you'd like to see host?
Will we see Nura with raven locks? Would she look good with black hair?

The only other potential host, I would have Triplicate Girl. 3 hosts in one.

7. We at Pinup Models, Inc. already have some interesting ideas for challenges, but is there an idea, location, prop, etc. that you'd like to see used in this competition?

They all should go Goth (I'd leave this for one of the middle competitions and not the first one - if used at all)


8. Anything else?

Nope, that is all

Still with the counting of the nominations...

Cosmic Boy is the leader for male Legionnaire.
Supes and Mon tie for second place.

Kid Q, Vi and Phantom Girl all tie for female Legionnaire.

Jungle King, Color Kid and Rond tie for male non Legionnaire.

Laurel Kent is the leader for female non Legionnaire. Capt. Frake and Night Girl tie for second.

Winema has 3 noms for judge.

Host has no current leader....

1. Male Legionnaires

Invisible Kid II (Jacques). Zut! I like that stripe. And if Drura digs him, he's got to be mighty fine. If endearingly uptight at times.

Star Boy (current version). Well, all the chicks seem to dig him. Don't argue with all the chicks. (And don't have sugar or bombs as props/on the space-craft services table.)

2. Female Legionnaires.

None! See #4.

3. male non-Legionnaires

Color Kid. He's got a strange/cool visual going there. Not to mention his powers. Go, Ulu, go!

Rond Vidar. Smart! Brave! Cute! Humble! He'd never enter of his own accord, so we need to deploy some of his female friends to drag him out of his lab and into this contest!

I ditto Dean on Dynamo Dude. Uh, Boy.

4. female non-Legionnaires

<span style="font-size: 16px;">NIGHT GIRL.</span> Because she is Night Girl. That hair! Those heels! The skintight black outfit! Because any Girl who was "the muscle" during the Silver Age is fabulous! Lovely sans beehive as well... see LSH 297 for a primo example. Okay, maybe questionable taste in sentients (please, Lydda, let me introduce you to Rond!) but you have to respect a girl who goes after and gets what she wants. And because there's sure to be trouble if she's not in this.

Life Lass. Such nice kids, those Lallorians. She may be a bit shy, but I think Somi has great potential.

Leung. The young presidential candidate from Baxter 10. Although she did not win the election, she seemed to be headed into a life of government service. Let her have a little fun! Also, I think it's good to have some of the less prominent characters in the mix

Mystelor. Stunning. Excellent costume. Gave villainy a try, didn't care for it. Interesting.

Stiletta. Evillo's short-haired daughter. Feisty & kinda naughty, but a good girl!

5. Judges. I would like the original judges back too! Have Marte make time, dang it! Oh, and I want more Hate Face.

6. Hosts. Why isn't Tenz in my model noms? Because I think he'd be an even better host. He has the gift of gab...really, check those Sourcebooks. MEL either by himself or with Dreamy. They'd have a good time!

7. I resubmit Inshar (world of giant flowers) as a location.

Er, can I second Leung's nomination? Even if I probably have used up all 'my' nominating spots? (that's the trouble of going first...)
And a combo of MEL and Dawnstar would rock as hosts, Tenz making fun of everybody and Dawny trying to keep things serious. As a matter of fact, in an ideal universe Tenz would wear a ridiculous version of whatever the challenge is about. Dawny would also do the challenge, but 'seriously', sort of out of competition.

Of course, Doc! But I'm taking away your nomination of Winema as a contestant. She's a shoe-in for judge, so it's not a total loss.

Here's a summary of those with more than one nomination...

Legion males: Superboy, Cos, Mon

Legion fems: KidQ, Vi, Tinya

Non Legion males: Jungle King, Dynamo Boy, Color Kid, Rond

Non Legion fems: Laurel Kent, Cap. Frake, Mystelor, Night Girl, Life Lass, Leung

Judge: Winema

Host has no front runner....

Remember, reasons why someone should be a contestant will factor.

We've only just begun....

1. Which 2 male Legionnaires would you like to see in this competition? Why?

Bouncing Boy -- His ex-girlfriend won, why not give him a chance?

Cosmic Boy -- He's proven he's not afraid to show some skin, though he should stop the body waxing.

2. Which 2 female Legionnaires would you like to see in this competition? Why?

Phantom Girl -- Anyone who can make bellbottoms work deserves a shot.

Kid Quantum II -- She should be given the chance to look sexy without resorting to butt floss.

3. Which 3 male non-Legionnaires would you like to see in this competition? Why?

Color Kid -- His powers could be visually dynamic, plus he was left out of Chlor's swimsuit/supertot picture, and this is your chance to make up for it.

Jungle King -- Hello, leopard-print bikini!

Rond Vidar -- Nerds can be hot, too (see Michael Shanks in "Stargate SG-1," though, again, leave the trimmer at home).

4. Which 3 female non-Legionnaires would you like to see in this competition? Why?

Night Girl -- TD got it.

Other two -- no real preference, I'll leave it up to fate.

5. Is there another person who might make a good fill-in?

Keep the drum beating for Winema.

6. Dream Girl is the obvious choice for host, but popular opinion can definitely change that. Is there someone else that you'd like to see host?

I second (or third) the Tenz idea!

7. We at Pinup Models, Inc. already have some interesting ideas for challenges, but is there an idea, location, prop, etc. that you'd like to see used in this competition?

Models get sent to the anime-verse and all have really big eyes.

Actually, it seems that the popular vote coincides with the best reasons...that makes sense...

Right now, the top 4 guys are Cos, Rond, Color Kid and Jungle King. Supes, Mon and Dynamo Boy are tied for the fifth spot.

The top 4 girls are Lydda, Laurel K, Kid Q and Tinya. There are 5 other nominees tied for the fifth spot; Vi, Cap Frake, Mystelor, Life Lass and Leung

Winema is pretty much set as a judge. I suppose she and Marte Allon can share that seat next to Imra and hail the return of the Emerald Empress.

Tenzil has stepped ahead of the pack for host!

Things can change very readily...

Ah ha! I left myself an open slot because I couldn't think of a third nominee for non-Legion femme, and Thriftshop Debutante comes through with Presidential nominee, Leung!

Leung was gorgeous, and so modest, she *so* deserved to be President.

So instead, let's make her a star!

I'm very concerned about how similar Lydda, Laurel, Tinya, Life Lass and Mystelor look. Lydda has the most votes, so I'm tempted to keep her and cut the rest.

She represents the "pretty" dark haired girls. Leung and Jazmin are the exotics. Vi is the "hard" dark beauty with a scar, and Frake is the older, tougher woman.

What does the group think? I'm not saying this is the cast, but it's what I like...

As for the men, I like the top four...Rond as a geeky, caterpillar type. Color Kid as the unusual looking one. Jungle King as the B-movie star, hunky type. Cos, Supes and Mon could each do the job as rep of the establishment, but Cos has the most votes, so he gets it. I would like to add current Star Boy, too.

Summary...
Women:
Lydda
Leung
Jazmin
Vi
Frake

Men:
Cos
Star Boy
Jungle King
Color Kid
Rond Vidar

The polls are still open, but I do wanna get started...

Sounds like a great lineup! I'm looking forward to seeing badass bescarred Vi show us her stuff. I'm no fan of Cos, but this ain't a spokemodel competition so we don't have to listen to him. Yaaaay!

(I don't know about exotic though; it's a relative term. Leung and Jaz seem to be fairly typical of Earthlings/Xanthuans. They don't look like everyone from their planets, but plenty of people from their respective planets look like them.)

I like most of your choices, but I really would prefer either Supes or Mon-el to Star Boy. You want to make an eliminatory round between the three of them? (as if you didn't have enough to do already)

I'm just saying that Leung and Jaz present some visual diversity. They're exotic when compared to all those girls that look alike...Lydda, Laurel, Life Lass, etc...

As for Supes or Mon, well, I really do feel like Cos is filling their role in the competition. Again, Star Boy brings that diversity that I find neccessary.

Still, this isn't settled. If people *really* want Superboy or Mon-El in there, I can flex.

Let's see what happens on Monday...

Please, boy. Dreamy says she "kind of" likes Star Boy which means she totally likes Star Boy. And we know you will heed your absolute tippy-top favorite Legionnaire.

Fine with me, 'cause current Star Boy is a cutie-pie*. (Looks- and personality-wise!)


*made with Splenda

Hm, I see what you are saying... Anyway, I just know that you'll do an excellent job whatever the lineup.

Have I thanked you for doing this yet? I'm really having a lot of fun with this: you are forcing me to check into Legion World several times a day.

To be honest, I'd rather have Tinya than Vi. I know Violet's fun, but I feel like Tinya's the fashion-forward one. And she seems like she'd be more fun to have in the competition than the shy Violet.

I must insistthat TENZIL be involved! As the handsomest Silver-Age Legionnaire* and the kewlest latter-day Legionnaire**, he deserves this!


*There is a thread somehere on the LSH board confirming this!


**Though there is no confirmation thread on the LSH board, can it really even be in doubt?

Cali, it's 5YL Vi. She's only shy an eye and a leg.

Really? That's... creepy.

But I still like Tinya better.

These opinions ALL matter, no decision has been made, yet.

Here's a thought... I've said that I think Tinya, Laurel, Lydda, Life Lass and young Vi look so much alike, maybe I need to come up with some way of making them more distinctive?

Any ideas?