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wow. Just... wow.

And kudos to you for cataloging the many love affairs of Cobie

I'm super-impressed that you included Rocky's cousin Makarona!

I'm surprised there's room for any of us on the list given all of Cobies "relations."

Ex, I had some of my names wrong, I looked in my notes.

Anyways, as Tempest is confusing as it is, I made my own little tree, I hope this will help with your project.

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OK, so I think I got the Dev/Sharky section squared away. I've gone ahead and isolated it from the rest of the tree to let you guys confirm.

New connecting lines are:

Red (crossed) - genetically engineeered
Green (cross hatched) - DNA contributed




So basically:

- Francis and Gretta Aurelius had twin daughters, Suzanne and Helena

- Suzanne had a love affair with Kar Em, from which Dev was born
- Using Dev's DNA as a template, Suzanne genetically engineered Lon
- Lon was raised by Kar as Dev's brother (I used the "adopted" line here)

- Helena genetically engineed Sharky, Beaver, and Woodchuck (among others - indicated by the diamond) using the DNA of Josiah Marner

- Although Suzanne is dead, she maintains a spiritual connection to Helena (sometimes taking over her mind)

- Dev is married to Princess Alyson, with two kids, Han and Jon
- Lon has a current non-committed relationship with Kalla Hrykos (the illegitimate daughter of the former head of the clan Hrykos and an unnamed peasant woman)
- Sharky has a current committed relationship with Lolita (I've included her "Mary Hatch" lineage here, but that can be removed if Cobie doesn't agree)
- Sharky had a former casual relationship with Icefyre, the half-brother of Semi


Look right?

Jeepers this is complicated!

Isn't it about time for a reboot?

Why... who is Reboot related to?

Ex, for Lolita, that history for her would only exist in the Mary Hatch timeline. For now, her past is purposely mysterious so that absolutely nothing prior to her first meeting Cobie is known. (And even that is vague and purposely misleading). 

So yeah, you can remove.

Another complicated bit:

Cobie had a short fling with Frio, Cali's sister. Later, Frio had a relationship with Gary Concord, who turned out to be an alternate Earth / reality version of Cobie.

So cool, Ex... looks great!

OMG ... I'm in!

I mean MLLASH'S HOARY HOSTS!!! ... I'm in!

Looks right. Great job.

OK, time for the Cobie and Tempest sections of the tree.

A couple new connecting lines:

-Red (triple dashed) - Parallel world doppleganger
-Grey (double circle with arrow) - Tempest's "shades"; magical mental projections that manifested as real people on LW, but didn't actually exist. I've further indicated these by shading the individuals on the side not facing Tempest.




So... deep breath:

- Cobie has been married three times (twice annulled to Space Tart then HPV, currently "soul-bonded" to Spellbinder).

- He's had past committed relationships with Debauchery Damsel and Lolita, more casual relationships with Princess Makarona, Princess No-Protection, Sure Lee and Tiffany Spiffany, and flings with Thora, Frio, Dessert Rose, Golden Girl and Myriad.

- He's had children with Space Tart - Ulgorith, Thora - Umber, DD - The Archduke of Tiime, Dessert Rose - Robot 99, Golden Girl - Numf El, and Myriad - Triplicate Girl

- His two parallel world selves, Gary Concord and the Earth 4 Cobie, have had relationships respectively with Frio and the Earth 4 Thora, the latter of which produced Amber (also known as Homecoming Queen), a parallel world version of Umber.





- Tempest, from the lineage shown highest has, in the past, projected "shades" that seemingly had various relationships with Legion Worlders. These include:

- High Priestess Vivianne, once married to Cobie, also had romantic relationships with Loser Lad (who also dated Space Tart), Kent Shakespeare (who also dated Myriad), Future, and had an affair with Abin Quank (which produced a "shade" daughter, Divine Opal Janell).
- Morgause (HPV's "sister") who had a relationship with Loser Lad.

- I have only included these 3 Shades (of many) as they have the most LW specific relations. For the same reason, I've removed the 3rd "sister" of HPV and Morgause, Igraine.

- For Tempest's ancestry I've only included the direct lineage (not the full extent including aunts, uncles, cousins, etc.) to try to keep this line as directly LW-centric as I could. (I followed a similar guide earlier for Red Arrow, who also has a extensive character specific lineage).

- I do have a question, though, Tempest, about the generational placement of your lineage. Reading through your wiki article, I get the sense that these magical/fey characters are extremely long-lived and date back to the Middle ages. Is that correct?





Additional stuff:

- Amber had a relationship with Beagle Boy

- Caliente is married to Actor Lad and had an earlier love affair with Tamper Lad. Her twin sister, Frio, as previously mentioned, had relationships with Cobie and Gary Concord

- Faraway Lad is married to Gigglebot Girl, but had a brief affair with Space Tart.

- Tamper Lad had a relationship with Thora

- Mystery Lad was Cobie's College Roomate

- Sonnie Bloke is Numf's "brother" but I can't figure out how that would work, so I'm just going to say that they are very tight.

- Tiffany Spiffany's brother Lester is engaged to Leap Year Lass.

- All of the characters with an "x" line proceeding to a diamond is just my shorthand to indicate that their particular character-specific sections of the tree have been cut out for the purpose of this image.

- I know, Cobie, that you also had a relationship with Antiquated Forms of Communications Lass, but she's clear on the other side of the tree and I can't figure out how to connect her to you without crossing like 50 lines. I'll give it a think.





Whew!

Look about right, guys?

I am not going to make definitive time line for any of Tempest's ancestors. The storyline between Janiel and Raudulfr started in the middle ages, he was released from the lake in the 2950s. Raudulfr was born in the early middle ages, and his mother was about 19 when she gave birth to him.

I like Marvel's Asgard, so their history will stand as such (though I really won't delve too much into it). As for the maternal side of the family, Janiel obviously came before Titania, and Oberon is probably a few years younger than Janiel. But they have all definitely been around longer than the Middle Ages.

Awesome edits on they chart!

Cool, glad you dig it!

I think what I'll do for the final complete version is put in some sort of "break lines" to indicate general eras.

1. The bottom one will go as high as the earliest Rockhopper Lad ancestor shown and refer to the 30th/31st centuries.

2. Above that, I'll put a block for the 20th/21st century for characters explicitely originating from there. Dedman and the Yellow Kid come to mind, but I'm sure there are others.

3. Above that, I'll have a vague "Middle Ages" block where I can put Raudulfr and his parents.

4. Above that, a vague "Ancient" block for Pagan Lass, STU, etc. as well as your Janiel line.

5. And the highest level will be a "Prehistoric" block for godlike ancient beings like Pornis, The One Called the One, etc.

A few more things...(don't shoot me )

- no worries on how to connect AFC Lass with Cobie. For the record, it's been revealed that Cobie lost his virginity to her.

- Cobie hooked up with Kara, an LMBer who was also Icefyre's cousin.

- another complex one: Cobie briefing dated Danger Damsel, then just Anne, who is now deceased. She also dates Sciopio Taltarus, who is also deceased. Anne had a sister, Sara, who dated Invisible Brainiac. I know, I know, not exactly what you wanted to hear for adding MORE. :eel:

- Eryk has had a longtime on-again, off-again romance with Kid Gender Stereotype Reversal II. FYI, her brother, Kid Gender Stereotype Reversal I is deceased.

Not at all... I love this stuff

OK... well let me ask you this, then... Is she merely Icefyre's cousin... or also that of his half brother Semi? That is to say, is she a cousin through the shared parent (which, for simplicity's sake, I'm assuming is their father)?

That is actually perfect, because "Sara" worked at Cafe Cramer. I've been looking for a way to link in FC, and if the only connection was FC to Sara to Ibby, I would have thought that was too loose. But if I can tie that same girl into the Scipio Taltarus thing, than I think that's more than enough to justify a "Cramer" block. w00t!

Yeah, I actually did that one already, but I haven't shown the Lardy/Eryk section again since the first draft.


OK... so if I don't mind adding all these things, then I feel no compunction about continuing to pester you with questions.

Here's the latest thing bugging me:

STU and Raging Bull. It is stated that they are brothers, but Abin established that STU hails from ancient Egypt. Does that mean the RB is from that time period, as well (which I really hope is the case, because it opens up a cool possibility as to why there is so much "Bull" symbolism in ancient religions)?

If we're going in and recording all these flings, IB had a "fling" with Spelling Bee. Everyone else thinks they just made out, but...

She's only appeared once, but she's gonna appear again soon.

I love how much you're loving this, Ex. Nearly anyone else I know would have gone nuts from all the history behind this.

Also it has long been established that Stoopid Cat and Fat Cramer are brother and sister.

How that works has never been revealed. LOL!

Great Job EX!

What are we going to name Ex & My's first child?

As long as you're still loving this!

Since only Icey ever acknowledged Kara as a family member, I'd say she's only his cousin, not Semi's.

Not sure on Raging Bull but I love your ideas for him also being ancient and all the Bull symbolism in religions.

Hmmm... well... I've always been fond of the name, "Phineas".


A little background behind Ex's "crush" on My Whee Fem:

Half of the characters included in this project I never even heard of until I started doing the research for that LMB Monitor Board symbol project. When I came across "My", I was stopped in my tracks with what a cool - yet relatively unexplored - concept she was. Even in a technologically advanced 31st century setting, there was still a place for this little Asian assassin girl who just uses knives and swords. I totally got this image in my head of "Deadly Little Miho" from Frank Millers' "Sin City" - "She'll cut you quick... she'll kill you quiet... you won't feel a thing."

For a while now, I've been mulling over writing an LMB story called, "The Long Klordny" that would have a very "film noir" feel to it. There are so many cool characters that could fit in: Matlock- the detective; Quislet Esq. - the lawyer; a couple old Primary Color Gang characters like Red Rage - the washed up boxer and Blue Cheese Lad - in my mind, small time criminal "Fast Eddie Stilton"; certainly Exnihil - the corrupt executive; and definitely My Whee Fem - the exotic femme fatale.

So, anyway, smitten with this fictional girl, I added Ex's feelings toward her as canon during a LMB Halloween story that Emily Sivana and I wrote together last year called The Dead Man\'s Tale .


OK... enough of all that, on to the update.

This time out, the Lash/Cru section:



So...

- Lash is currently married to the wealthy publishing heir, Josh Seigel, with whom he recently became the adoptive sugar-daddy to LMB member, Karie. Through an as yet unrevealed set of circumstances, Lash is also the father of

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- Previously, Lash has had short term relationships with Matt Damon, Raging Bull (who also dated Mattropolis, a hero who occasionally trades places with the Universe 3 heroine, Mantis), a "hard light hologram" of Raging Bull called G. Stallion (who later died during the LMB Zero Hour), and Large Handsome - the late inheritor of the Handsome crime cartel - also known as the criminal, Middlefinger II.

- For a time, an alternate universe version of Lash, known as Micheal Lorenzo Lash - or the Reverse Lash - troubled the LMB.

- Lash's close friend, Sketch Lad, was the creator of the being known as Globe Girl, a heroine that he based off of now deceased LMB member, Silicon Sandra. Sketchy is also cousins with twin sisters, Absolute and Sure Lee, the later of which - as mentioned in the previous section - dated Cobie.

- The House of Jectra - ruled by King Hrold and Queen Suzyn - brought forth the LMB twins, Prince Mykel AKA Crusader (who is married to the sorcerer Maxx) and Princess Crujectra AKA Spellbinder (who has, in the past, dated Raging Bull's brother STU and LMB member Ultra Matt AKA The Boy with Ultra Powers, but is currently "soul bound" to Cobalt Kid).





- Spellbinder's relationship to STU, and their subsequent offspring, is part of a story called "The Children of the LMB". I won't go into the full details of the story - which can be found in Cobalt Kid's Written History of the LMB but, suffice to say, their children, Blu and Lu - along with those of Beagle Boy and Homecoming Queen (Amber, the daughter of the Universe 4 Cobalt Kid and Thora), Beaglegirl, Black Beagle, and Orbeagle (collectively called the "Beagz of Prey") - no longer exist.

- I wasn't going to include these five children but, after reading Cobie's synopsis, I was pretty moved and felt I should. "The Children of the LMB" is a viscious - but poignant - bit of LMB history. I don't think it actually occurred as a proper story - rather played out in small bits - but the collective result is, in my opinion, pretty darned powerful. I've indicated that these children have been erased from the timeline by coloring their respective blocks black.



Other stuff -

- I've already discussed the Leap Year Lass - Spiffany connection but, after reflection, decided to move it to this block of the tree to be in closer proximity to Lash. (Ideally, I'd try to make a triad of Lash, LYL, and EDE... but EDE is too closely tied to the Lard Lad block to make that possible).

- The Middlefinger Legacy: so... "Middlefinger," had been a criminal moniker that had been inherited by the murder of the previous holder... up until Middlefinger VIII (formerly Princess No-Protection) who merely assumed the title, not following protocol. Resultantly, there are currently 6 different active Middlefingers as of this writing... with a "War of the Middlefingers" quietly brewing behind the scenes. I've only included the Middlefingers with direct hooks into the LMB here, namely Large Handsome (Middlefinger II), his brother Molock (IV) and the aforementioned Princess (VIII).

- Although we discussed the possibility in this thread of STU's brother, Raging Bull, hailing from Ancient times, I don't feel comfortable indicating that here without some sort of consent/affirmation. Accordingly, for the time being, STU comes from Ancient Pre-Egypt, RB is contemporary... stranger things have happened.

- Cobie, in your "Written History" you refer to STU and Cru's daughter as "Dru," but in the original post she was called, "Lu," so I decided to go with STU's authorial intent.

- I haven't included the previously used "x-arrow" notation for off-chart connections because - in this case - all of the right pointing lines lead to one place: a romantic connection to Cobie - what a surprise!


Corrections and additions welcome.

Can I be proud of you? Because I am. This is such an amazing task, thank you. I'm loving these.

Thanks so much, Tempest!

Once I started scratching the surface of thing, I kept getting sucked in deeper and deeper. It's like a huge logic puzzle or something that I just have to solve.

I think I came up with a fairly simple solution for that which makes a lot of sense and doesn't violate anything else that's come before. Take a look and let me know if you agree:


So... the Abin/Ibby/Ex/Emily block (or the "It's all about Everyday Girl" block):




OK:

- Abin Quank, the patriarch of the Quank Clan, is the widower of the late Pagan Lass, an ancient Pre-Egyptian sorceress, herself the daughter of the goddess Bast and one of her concubines, Numnuts the Semi Incomprehensible (whose apprentice was the mage, STU).

- Abin also had affair with High Priestess Vivianne (a Shade of the LMBer Tempest) the union of whom produced a daughter, Divine Opal Janell (also a Shade)

- Abin's adopted brother Bart Quank (known as Space Ranger) had a serious relationship with the late Emerald Empress.

- Abin's late wife Pagan Lass (who was served by her familiar Stoopid Cat, himself a creation of Bast) had previously been married to an another man and, during that relationship, had given birth to Princess Diana of Valhalia.

- Princess Valhalia and Hrun the Barbarian (himself the son of an affair between a Barbarian woman and a time traveling Matlock - who, being much older than his appearance would indicate actually had 9 other children with his wife from earlier in his own personal timeline) are the parents of Everyday Girl.

- Everyday Girl, for her own protection, was placed in an orphanage as a small child (where she was close friends with fellow orphans Holly Honey and My Whee Fem) was later adopted by her grandmother Pagan Lass and Abin, who she considers to be her "Gramps".

- Everyday Girl is in a committed relationship with Sam Pureheart but previously had a huge crush on Invisible Brainiac.

- She is also protected by two small sprites named Nobody and Noone, very ancient residents of the Cack dimension. These cacks resemble tiny versions of Cobalt Kid and Eryk Davis Ester for reasons that date back to a time travel trip to Ancient Greece that Cobie and EDE haven't even as yet undertaken (but which Shark Lad has), as related: HERE





- Invisible Brainiac is currently in a commited relationship with Blaze, but has previously been linked to Spelling Bee, and a young girl named Sara (a barista at Cafe Cramer) whose sister Anne (also known as Danger Damsel) previously was involved with Cobie.




(Rampant plugging of Exnihil-authored LMB stories to follow )


- Exnihil (after a long and convoluted series of events involving the collapse of a rogue timeline, related: HERE - which is well worth a read if ever you get a free day or so) is the son of Amelita Ward and Leo Gorcey.

- As related in the previous post, he has undeclared feelings toward My Whee Fem, and had an awkward near romantic faux pas with Red Arrow after he got too drunk: HERE

- He is also very close friends with the talismanic mage, kenaustin, who first encouraged Ex to travel to Legion World, and later taught him a valuable lesson: HERE



- Red Arrow (AKA Emily Sivana) is the product of a long lineage of both heroic and villainous personages (abbreviated here reflect just her LW specific adventures). Of note is the fact that her uncle Lex Knight seems intent on getting her into an arranged marriage with an individual of his choosing for seemingly nerafious reasons.

- At Invisible Brainiac's encouragement she finally entered into a romantic relationship with her long-time associate Sebastian Sage AKA Question Lad. Previously she had a crush on LMB member Power Boy.



Other Stuff:

- I wound up having to drop the "crush" line that Ibby had toward Lolita (as she is currently better placed in the Shark Lad block) but added the Everday Girl crush toward him, as that was more intense in any case.

- I have a feeling that I'm missing some sort of connection between Power Boy and his earlier persona Disaster Boy, but I'm not entirely sure what the deal is there (maybe this is included in the Lord of the Oval epic?)

- Abin had stated that Fat Cramer and Stoopid Cat were brother and sister but that the actual mechanics were unknown. Given that the goddess Bast was explicitely stated to have concubines, it made a lot of sense to me that Fat Cramer's feline race was very likely to have been a product of that system. Perhaps all cats are in some way siblings, as the descendants of Bast. Like I said up top, this is just my suggestion, and can be removed if there is disagreement.


So... look good?