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3 Worst Missteps in Legion History?
#1039553 09/26/24 12:55 PM
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1. Removal of Superboy as the Legion's inspiration--The cause of most of the Legion's troubles...
2. The ridiculous Garth/Proty retcon--Still never made any sense and needlessly tarnished the ADVENTURE COMICS era...
3. Saturn Girl/Cosmic Boy drunken hook-up--Made Imra look pathetic, and Rokk a sex-crazed sleezy creep who would take advantage of a friend...

Agree/Disagree?

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Korbal #1039558 09/26/24 02:23 PM
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Yes on 1. The writer even agrees.

2 I was okay with. It kept Garth's sacrifice, and didn't get that much in the way of later appearances. It also launched a few plots such as LiveWire's personality, and links with Validus plague.

3 Barely recall that other than a firm bleh. So agree there.

I'd also add

Earth Man
DC editorial fiefdoms allowing the super-office dictates, and sending Mark Waid to fight the corner.
Jan/Erin is going to be up there.
Letting Giffen blow up the Earth

Oh, that's 4...


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Korbal #1039562 09/26/24 03:50 PM
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The animated legion of superheroes film that came out last year. Very disappointing and a big whiff. It was just a Supergirl movie that happened to have a handful of legionnaires.

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Originally Posted by Korbal
1. Removal of Superboy as the Legion's inspiration--The cause of most of the Legion's troubles...
2. The ridiculous Garth/Proty retcon--Still never made any sense and needlessly tarnished the ADVENTURE COMICS era...
3. Saturn Girl/Cosmic Boy drunken hook-up--Made Imra look pathetic, and Rokk a sex-crazed sleezy creep who would take advantage of a friend...

Agree/Disagree?

I'll agree with all these for sure.


Originally Posted by thoth lad
Earth Man
DC editorial fiefdoms allowing the super-office dictates, and sending Mark Waid to fight the corner.
Jan/Erin is going to be up there.
Letting Giffen blow up the Earth

Also agree here


Originally Posted by Boy Kid Lad
The animated legion of superheroes film that came out last year. Very disappointing and a big whiff. It was just a Supergirl movie that happened to have a handful of legionnaires.

I actually liked the movie, but you're completely correct in your final statement.


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Korbal #1039571 09/26/24 07:49 PM
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Reboot version top 3:

1. Cub
2. Turning Kinetix into a generic Deus ex machina (or more generally, how poorly the writers treated her overall)
3. Having Imra repeatedly overstretch her powers (twice in the pre-DnA era, twice after)


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Originally Posted by Gaseous Lad
I actually liked the movie, but you're completely correct in your final statement.
I didn’t think the movie was too bad as a Supergirl movie. Just a dud as a legion movie.

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Originally Posted by Gaseous Lad
Reboot version top 3:

1. Cub
2. Turning Kinetix into a generic Deus ex machina (or more generally, how poorly the writers treated her overall)
3. Having Imra repeatedly overstretch her powers (twice in the pre-DnA era, twice after)

Big Yes

Also agree with Earth-Man for sure

And the retcon removing Superboy, whew, that sure messed up a lot

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I'd definitely agree with everything surrounding the removal of Superboy as the biggest single mistake in Legion history.

For my second choice, I'll pick not doing everything possible to keep Dave Cockrum on pencils for as long as possibile

Third, I'll pick the Five Year Gap. While I have mixed feelings on the 5YL storyline, the decision to jump in time and create a discontinuity between that series and what came before, rather than continuing immediately on from the previous series, I think was a mistake in retrospect.

Honorable mentions:

--The original decision to reboot. Even though I love the reboot era stories, there's a strong argument to be mad that the biggest challenge facing the Legion is the fragmentation caused by the various reboots, and so in retrospect it can be considered a questionable decision.

--The end of the Adventure Era with #380. Shifting the Legion from being rhe star of their own series to a backup feature was clearly an unjustified and ill-thought out maneuver, though it might be argued that it actually had beneficial results long-term as the Legion made their comeback.

--Broadly gestures at everything in the past twenty years or so.


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