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I mean I am in the middle of reading Invincible now, but you kind of know what you're getting with that. But to purposefully do horrific things to characters that don't really deserve it in a DC Superhero comic.... I know there was a time from the late 90s through most of the 00s where that was the expected style to deconstruct in one way or another.

But almost without exception, in every story where I read that, I didn't enjoy it. And then Johns kept getting bumped up the line in DC/WB and continued making questionable decisions with everything he touched.

Crumbs! I had no idea they had all been moidered. I vaguely recall something with Belmont. I probably thought at the time it was to make sure it was your standard grown man taking young child out fighting crime partnership instead. Because, what could be wrong with that?

But I hadn't heard of the others. That's pretty vindictive, misogynistic ( and very unimaginative) sounding.

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Sang an upset Morrissey at being hired as part of Comics British invasion of the '80s.

Danette was murdered too???

I guess Johns thought he was being more gender-balanced by having Marvin be killed by Wonder Dog, and Wendy surviving, albeit crippled. UGH!

and it was also Johns who was responsible for that JSA arc, where family members of legacies were being killed... that attack on the Heywood family picnic was disgusting. So many children killed... but I guess Johns thought he was being cool, showing that a handful of kids survived the slaughter. Sure, they're orphans now, who watched the rest of their family be murdered in terrible ways, but...

Revealed way back in 2000 in Stars and S.T.R.I.P.E. #12.

thanks for citing the issue, EDE

aw, I really liked Danette from the few appearances of hers I read!

Dannette started out with so much potential. She stole the show in the 3-parter that got All Star Squadron off to a great start. But Roy Thomas seemed to lose interest in her quickly.

I like the bits about her having to overcome her own anti-Japanese bias and finding out her father was a Nazi sympathizer. I really wish we'd got to see some of her interacting with her brother.

I think the former bit was poorly executed, but the latter bit was brilliantly done. Shades of Bad Old Joe Kennedy.

ah what could have been

the nice thing is, passionate fanfic writers can always take the character and use her well!

I agree, Ibby.

It's 12 years on since the last time I wrote a JSA fic. Perhaps the time has come to drink again from that particular well.

I would love to read your ideas, Fanfie!

I read through the thirteen original GA Firebrand stories last night. They are basically pretty average GA stories, though surprisingly unfocused for what was the original cover and lead feature of Police Comics. It's easy to see why it soon lost out to the much better developed Plastic Man series.

Still, you've got a decent supporting cast with the valet and ex-boxer Slugger, the greedy capitalist father, and initially shallow but growing more serious as the series progresses fiance Joan. The first story is a pretty typical breaking up a protection racket and then being believed by the police to be the mastermind of the racket type story, but in the second issue he's preventing a military coup on a Caribbean island and then it tends to more fighting spies and saboteurs as the main focus. There's neat little bits like the fact that he and Joan share an interest in aviation and both own and fly their own planes (and Rod designs planes as well). It changes tone a bit. About halfway through Rod and Slugger join the Navy full-time, but that doesn't change the stories too much other than requiring some excuse for Joan to be at whatever port they are at this week. There's one story where he takes down a corrupt politician involbed in a KKK-esque organization.

I encountered Danette way before I encountered Rod.

Rod Reilly: The sailor with a girl in every port. And every one of them is Joan.

Some folks just want loving, every place they visit

Fontana was the name of a water park near where I grew up

The Spencer Davis Group was the band that really unlocked the world of rock music to me.

In the mid-80s, I was just developing the core of my pop music tastes, after mainly listening to whatever my parents had on the radio. This mainly started in 1983 when I first started High School and through various events couldn't get away from the world of pop music. We didn't even have cable, so my only MTV exposure (when they had actual music videos) was at a friend's house.

Anyway, fast forward to 1986, and Steve Winwood hits it big with the Back in the High Life album (which still holds up really well). I really dig his music, then a movie (I think it was Iron Eagle), has Gimme Some Lovin as part of their soundtrack. I say to myself, "Self, that is one banger of a song and the singer sounds a lot like Steve Winwood..." then after I do the research, find out the history of the Spencer Davis Group with Stevie Winwood the prodigy. That in turn opens the door to Blind Faith and Traffic, which leads to Clapton, and the Beatles (the deeper stuff, that is), Pink Floyd, all of that British rock from the time. It also helped that Peter Gabriel was doing his thing around that time as well.

So the summary is that I don't know if I'd be the appreciator of music that I am today without that song.

Savage Garden was that band for me

Now I'm a big Walk the Moon fan.

For me, it wasn't a band or a song so much as an album: the self-titled first album by Garbage.

That said, album two had some gems on it, including "The Trick Is to Keep Breathing," a favorite of Lash's.

Not that I listened to much music growing up, but my dad really liked Spencer Davis. I'd heard, and liked, a number of Winwood's 80's singles. But I remember catching the video for Roll With It on a hot summer's day, so the breathless, humid nature of it has stayed with me. I caught something he was doing recently, and his voice is still superb.

Garbage's Shirley Manson, as Fickles knows, was first in Goodbye Mr Mackenzie. A good friend of mine died earlier this year, and his humanist service had Goodbye Mr Mackenzie playing at the start of the service.

Garbage is great. We saw them opening for Tears for Fears a couple years ago.

Glad to see all the love for Garbage (and, Thoth, my condolences on the loss of your friend.)

I'm sure they're a great live act, but I imagine a lot of the cool studio effects get sacrificed.

Also, the main reason I prefer their early work is that the later stuff sounds less experimental to me, more conventionally rocking.

Shirley's talents as a lyricist and singer have never abated.

Ugh - sorry Thoth - condolences for your loss. I had intended to include that on the reply but then ADHD kicks in...

Anyway regarding Garbage, they are fantastic live, and don't need too many extras onstage, but the way musicians are these days, they just need a computer by one of the players to kick off the sequencer.

Also very sorry for your loss, thoth.