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Elvabird?

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His keys?


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LOL, GL!

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None of the above.

Hint: This species was first introduced during the TMK era.


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Are they sentients or non-sentients?


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Oh, was he hunting a probe, one of those blue eyeless humanoids?

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Oh that makes sense! I was thinking it was one of those creatures that is nothing but mouths, whatever they are called, that Keith used to like to draw so much.


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nice guess! I always wondered, were Probes meant to be sentient, or...

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I always took them to be biological robots.


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made of flesh and blood, but not sentient?

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But that's the effective definition of Android, IIRC. "Artificially made entity," i.e. constructed.

I think that we have fallen in love with the projection of circuitry on androids like Data, for example, but they would more realistically be the messy kind like in the Alien franchise.


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The question of their sentience and therefore slavery seems like it would have been a background plot that they never got around too.

New question soon. Too hot for my brain to think at the moment.

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Originally Posted by stile86
The question of their sentience and therefore slavery seems like it would have been a background plot that they never got around too.

Isn't that part of the TMK drinking game?

/sorry that might have been to snarky for this thread :LOL:


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Originally Posted by Gaseous Lad
But that's the effective definition of Android, IIRC. "Artificially made entity," i.e. constructed.

I think that we have fallen in love with the projection of circuitry on androids like Data, for example, but they would more realistically be the messy kind like in the Alien franchise.

makes sense!

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The question of their sentience and therefore slavery seems like it would have been a background plot that they never got around too.

New question soon. Too hot for my brain to think at the moment.


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"Android" has an interesting history.

Originally it meant any mechanical automaton in human shape, basically the ancestors of modern animatronics.

The term "robot" was introduced by Karel Capek in the 1920s, but Capek's "robots" weren't mechanical at all, but were basically lab-grown humanoids incapable of independent thought. Some early uses of "robot" in English-language science fiction has it being used for actual humans being fitted with mind-control devices.

Then somehow "robot" and "android" kind of switch meanings during the pulp era and Golden Age of Science Fiction, so that "robot" was typically used for mechanical beings, while "android" was generally used for a lab-grown human. See Captain Future, who has both a robot and an android (and a brain-in-a-vat!) as comrades. When androids are mentioned in SA Legion, for example, this what the writers have in mind. But eventually as "robot" kept expanding to indicate pretty much any independently operating mechanical device, "android" kind of shifted back towards its original meaning, becoming a type of robot spedifically designed to emulate humans. Which leaves us without a really standard word for "lab-grown humanoid", so the term for that tends to vary from one fictional work to another.

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The question of their sentience and therefore slavery seems like it would have been a background plot that they never got around too.

I think it was even suggested in a letter printed on one of the letters pages, though, as you said, never followed up.


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Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
"Android" has an interesting history.

Originally it meant any mechanical automaton in human shape, basically the ancestors of modern animatronics.

The term "robot" was introduced by Karel Capek in the 1920s, but Capek's "robots" weren't mechanical at all, but were basically lab-grown humanoids incapable of independent thought. Some early uses of "robot" in English-language science fiction has it being used for actual humans being fitted with mind-control devices.

Then somehow "robot" and "android" kind of switch meanings during the pulp era and Golden Age of Science Fiction, so that "robot" was typically used for mechanical beings, while "android" was generally used for a lab-grown human. See Captain Future, who has both a robot and an android (and a brain-in-a-vat!) as comrades. When androids are mentioned in SA Legion, for example, this what the writers have in mind. But eventually as "robot" kept expanding to indicate pretty much any independently operating mechanical device, "android" kind of shifted back towards its original meaning, becoming a type of robot spedifically designed to emulate humans. Which leaves us without a really standard word for "lab-grown humanoid", so the term for that tends to vary from one fictional work to another.
Fascinating stuff EDE. Now complicated by real life where a robot is usually not in humanoid form - e.g. in automotive factories, robotic warehouses and distribution centres, even some space probes are said to have "robot arms" - so the term in normal usage has come to mean any electro-mechanical computerised device that performs some form of manipulation. On the other side the Vision is often called a synthezoid for a synthetic android/human. Exactly how humanoid he is depends on the writer.

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In an imaginary story, Superman takes Batman to the future where Batman joins the Adult Legion and lives there permanently. What two events caused this to happen?

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hmmm Robin died, and Alfred died?

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Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
hmmm Robin died, and Alfred died?
No but good guesses.
I have left this a bit too open, haven't I?

OK, the first event occurs when the two heroes are teenagers, and the second does involve death but when they are both crime-fighting adults and involves a famous antagonist.
Still pretty open but perhaps helps with guesses.

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Originally Posted by Invisible Brainiac
hmmm Robin died, and Alfred died?
In fact neither Robin nor Alfred appear in this story!

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hmmm did the Joker die, and Batman decided he had finally made Gotham safe?

I would guess one event was Batman visiting the Legion too, and helping them on a case?

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