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Re: Recent Legion-verse sightings in DCU proper
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Originally Posted by Sarcasm Kid
Okay I don't care if t's gauche to say it but you need to read the DC Pride book so I can tell you all what I did

They may only be cameos, but at least they acknowledge the characters and the team.


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Originally Posted by Sarcasm Kid
Okay I don't care if t's gauche to say it but you need to read the DC Pride book so I can tell you all what I did

They may only be cameos, but at least they acknowledge the characters and the team.

So now I can finally say it.

Devin Grayson contacted me in winter about consulting for her Jon Kent story. She read an article I wrote about DC's Icemaiden where I mentioned my disappointment at the lack of many of DC's older queer characters in last year's Pride anthology. She wanted to use some of them in her story, and I narrowed it down to the Legionnaires, as well as Dorothy Spinner and Coagula from the Doom Patrol.

My original plan was to have the classic versions appear. I narrowed it down to:

Silver Age Chemical King and Invisible Kid
Reboot Brainiac 5.1 and Invisible Kid
Retroboot Shrinking Violet & Lightning Lass, Dawnstar, Element Lad & Shvaughn Erin

You guys need to thank supragirl because I spoke with her in private about Brainy's identity as demisexual.

I argued that we have no idea what Bendis's plans might be for making his Legionnaires queer. If he even cares. And I felt using the classics, having them addressed and acknowledged on panel as queer, would've meant a lot to everyone after the 40 years of innuendo and subtext. We could've had Shvaughn as a straightforward trans woman, and Ayla and Vi would've finally been KISSING.

Devin was all for this and she suggested we send the references directly to Nick Robles, bypassing editorial. Unfortunately, the editors insisted on Jon's Legion because they know each other.

The instagram comments were based on my suggestions as well.

I did this for everyone on here. And the friends who've passed on like Dev and Lash. I know how bad things are and they're getting worse. I just, I love all of you so much and when Devin gave me this opportunity I took it and I tried to do right by the Legion and all of you.

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This was awesome, man. That's such a cool way to make an impact. Even though it wasn't everything quite the way that you wanted (and we would all have appreciated the hell out of), it was a good first step.


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Congratulations Sarky!

Comixology has fallen out with Google Play for whatever reason (but will be money). So I had to wait to get home to find my amazon password...then couldn't see the Pride book. *Finally* found it after a direct search for it. Only had a chance for the quickest of glances. But as soon as I spotted our Leigon pals in there, and Devin as writer, I had a feeling that it would be your involvement right there. So good to see them there. I didn't spot Ayla in my super speed flick through, but will give it a read tomorrow.

Awesome stuff Sarky!


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Just as a note for those using the DCU online app to view comics - even though they usually put in a 6 month delay for new releases, you can see it today if you're a subscriber.


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that's so cool and awesome, thank you Sarky for doing that!

and Devin sounds really cool too!

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Great job Sarky!. Good to see a true Legion fan making sure they are represented. Thanks for your contribution. (And hope it leads to more in the future.)

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I admit I've been annoyed about some of the complaints about the handling of Jon and Damian Wayne in the story, but I did what I set out to do and I gave this to all of you.

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Hey, this version of Shrinking Violet just got more character development in one frame than she did in the last 18-ish issues that she's been in lately. I also declare its canon for all versions of her. smile


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Go Vi, go Vi! (and Jan, Dawny, Brainy... and of course Jon Kent and Jay)!

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Does anyone have any scans of the pages they can post on here? I am just awful when it comes to posting images on this site.

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So the new Black Adam trailer dropped. I might be imagining things, but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCvwy4dFUmw

At about the 1:10 mark we see a kid wearing a purple shirt with a giant gold star in the middle that looks very much like Star Boy's original outfit. He's clearly a pedestrian, but you never know. Could just be a sly reference that means nothing though. The only connection between Thom Kallor and Black Adam is the Justice Society, and the JSA is all over this film, so just maybe.

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that would be cool smile and even if not, it's a cool easter egg!

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I agree! Plus it will be so cool to see some of the JSA heroes make their long-awaited debut into the movie world!! Can't wai!!! smile


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Originally Posted by Sarcasm Kid
Does anyone have any scans of the pages they can post on here? I am just awful when it comes to posting images on this site.


Here you go:
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The instagram comments were based on suggestions I made. I needed to make sure Dawny and Brainy got identified proper.

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I've still to read it yet. I did enjoy Robin's relentless checklist of threats, that descended from the plausible to alligators possibly controlled by Killer Croc. Again, only from a skim, but Jon and Damian didn't seem that different from the few other stories I've seen them in.


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The final episode of Young Justice season 4. Lots of Legion-related content under the spoiler tag. Watch it before you read it, if you can.

The pregnant Ursa (as the Emerald Empress) is the only one of the Kryptonians to make it out of the finale intact, and the Eye of Ekron forces her through space to Daxam and that is the last we see of her. So Daxam is to play a role in season 5, if there is one. Sounds like a potential Mon-El set-up, or maybe just parts of the Invasion storyline. On a side note, the eye of this show isn't made of glass or whatever. When it hits the ground it made a bit of a bouncy squish sound.

Robotic no-nose Brainiac 5 shows up in a time sphere to bring the Legion trio back. So it looks like they won't be stranded in the 21st century like I assumed. No recurring Legion cast for season 5, I guess. Bummer.

The evil martian (Miss Martian's brother) is rewarded by Darkseid for his service. He is gifted a planet of his own to start his own society. It's an unpopulated Durla. This explains why Chameleon Boy looks martian; durlans of this continuity are descendants of martians.

Oh, and Supergirl shows up after the credits. In Young Justice continuity she was apparently placed into the Phantom Zone instead of shot off in a rocket, then she was freed and taken in by Granny Goodness (along with Mary Marvel) to become one of the Furies.

I don't think I missed anything...

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I've still to read it yet. I did enjoy Robin's relentless checklist of threats, that descended from the plausible to alligators possibly controlled by Killer Croc. Again, only from a skim, but Jon and Damian didn't seem that different from the few other stories I've seen them in.

THANK YOU, that's how I felt!

It's really frustrating me how everyone's jumping on Devin because of Damian and Jon, like I've had to restrain myself from lashing out multiple times.

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really? Damian and Jon seem well-written and in-character to me... and Jay seems like a sweetheart

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So you see my point.

Here's what Devin has to say to everyone on LW:

"Thank them for keeping these wonderful characters safe in their hearts and let them know that I'm celebrating their return along with them! And maybe share that the lovely line about there being no wrong way to be yourself came from my amazing trans step-son, and that my whole family continues to be dedicated to the well-being of lgbtqia2s+ heroes everywhere and everywhen, factual and fictional alike."

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I've always liked Devin. I can totally relate to what she's saying.


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Very minor spoilers for Flashpoint Beyond #3:

The last page shows a bunch of distorted images of various "events" or teams from DC's history that are being distorted by Hypertime. Or something. Its hard to tell whats happening just yet. Anyway, one of them is retroboot Cosmic Boy, Saturn Girl, and Lightning Lad.

I should note that this is the first time any non-Bendis Legion has shown up on page since he took over the franchise, at least as far as I know.

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Interesting...! thanks for sharing!

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Indeed...


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