Legion World Forums LEGION COMPANION Spaceopoly The Non-Legion Comics Trivia Thread Pt 5

Yes and no. No, because the Vision hadn't yet been created when Black Panther joined the Avengers. Yes, because he wanted to keep tabs on the Avengers, but the whole team.

Hmmm...I guess that's close enough. Ibby gets the next question.

And, BTW, it was indeed a retcon -- and a controversial one. Christopher Priest, who is black and was writing Black Panther's solo book at the time (the late 90s) has been vocal in his opinion that Roy Thomas's Silver Age portrayal of Black Panther as a member of the Avengers is embarrassing and demeaning. That was why Priest did the retcon. This infuriated fans (and fans turned pro such as Kurt Busiek) who loved the "noble" Black Panther of yesteryear, but I personally agree with Priest.

Ah, didn’t realise it was the Avengers as a whole. I read some Black Panther biographies and was trying to recall what i had read

Not familiar with Panther’s first bit of tenure… but it does seem as though the retcon ties in to Panther’s status as ruler of wakanda. Thanks for the history lesson Annfie

Ok…

In the Red Winter storyline, what clue did Sue leave Ralph, which eventually allowed him to foil a key part of Sonar’s plan ?

A tuning fork?

Nope, though good guess given the villain. the clue was not related to Sonar's power though

Jigsaw puzzle? ( I know that is from an earlier case but maybe Sue used it again because it worked before?)

A flag of whatever country Sonar was would be ruler of?

nope and nope

the clue was something more related to Sue, than it was to Sonar

A piece of Sue's clothing?

close enough!

Sue returned her wedding ring to Ralph... and Ralph realized it was not her actual ring! He could only afford a gold-plated, fake diamond ring, but their love was real - Sue sending him a real diamond ring meant her feelings for Sonar were fake. and indeed, Sue was stringing Sonar along so she could learn his plans, and she tipped Ralph off as to the bombs he had hidden around Moscow.

Over to you stile!

Wow. Ok I wouldn't have guessed that. Have to read it sometime. Part of my missing years of comics.

Thinking about a question.

In early Post-Crisis continuity Superman and Batman often didn't get on very well, their different approaches and methods getting on each other's nerves. So Superman is rather disturbed when he finds Batman in Metropolis encroaching on his turf when Batman follows up the case in Gotham City of the unexplained death of a "wandering vagabond". Superman meanwhile has concerns over an unknown woman who knows his secret identity. The connection between the two is a piece of jewellery. What is the jewellery and why does it form a bond of trust between the two heroes?

a ring with Martha on it?

just kidding

a kryptonite ring?bond of trust because Batman wanted to keep it for protection, and Superman ended up giving it to Batman?

That's the one. That good old Martha ring - no, wait ...

(Side rant: I am not as bothered as many by the whole "Martha" thing from Batman V Superman as many fans. Because we all know Superman was raised by the Kents and thinks of himself as a human, we forget that the in-universe characters think differently. The shock of Superman valuing someone named Martha, a name with huge value to Batman, stopped Batman in his tracks but didn't convince him. Lois explaining that it was Superman's mother's name (yes the same name as Batman's mother) made him realise that Superman wasn't just some alien who was a danger to the world and it humanised Superman, made him see all he knew in a different light, that he valued a human above his own life, and also coming from Lois showing her devotion to him. That this wasn't clear to viewers does mean that the scripting needed a tweak but it isn't the total rubbish it is often seen as. End rant.)

Yes It was the Kryptonite ring Luthor had made that cost him his hand. I really like the last few pages, first where Batman reveals that he has had the ring all along and Superman says "You have me at a disadvantage." and Batman says "I know" and leaves but also leaves the ring behind (in a lead box) for Superman. Then in the last Page Superman visits the Batcave and after acknowledging their differences talks about his fear that some enemy might one day control him and hands over the ring. Batman says "Do you realise what you are asking?" Superman says "Yes. Yes I do. I want the means to stop me to be in the hands of a man I can trust with my life." Great Story, great pacing and great characterisation.

Your turn Ibby.

thanks stile I also thought the Martha thing was fairly realistic. It's an important name to Batman too. (the one thing I did feel off about this was Superman saying "Martha" rather than "mom" or "ma"!)

thanks for reminding me about this story too, thought it was a nice start to their friendship.

ok let's see...

In Tales of the Dark Multiverse (a sort of What If for DC), in one world Terra decides to act on her own and murders basically the entire world. Who were the last two superheroes we see her kill?

Geo Force and Changeling?

you got one right! the other one did not have a particular connection to Terra (missed opportunity eh)

Power Girl and Geo Force?

neither is correct!

though one of your correct answers here, is very similar to the 2nd un-guessed correct answer

Supergirl and Changeling?

That’s one correct, and the incorrect one is VERY closely related to the second correct answer!

Matrix and Changeling?

Nope. Same comment, but think a little bit further in terms of relationships re the second character

Superwoman (Kristin Wells?) and Changeling?

Also nope. Same comment as for the last guess

Superman and Changeling?