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Re: Recent Legion-verse sightings in DCU proper
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The latest episode of Young Justice has a pretty huge Legion info dump. Apparently in the Young Justice timeline, Zod and the other Kryptonian criminals are never released from the Phantom Zone in the current era because everybody who knew they were imprisoned died when Krypton exploded, and they are instead pardoned and released in the 31st century after 1,000 years and relocated onto the planet Daxam, where the sun drains their powers. Zod smuggles them off-world and they attempt to take over the United Planets. After some shenanigans, Lar-Zod (who spent 1,000 years as a fetus in the Phantom Zone and has a serious hatred for the Legion) takes a time sphere and alters the past so that the Legion never forms, but because the stranded Legion trio were bombarded with timey-wimey chronoton energy they remained separate from this new timeline and survived with memories of how things used to be. They came to the past to ensure the event that created the Legion would happen, which apparently involves Superboy ten years into the current day's future. Or something. And now Impulse is helping them. And Lar-Zod is not a part of Savage's plan. This also implies that the Zod we see in the Phantom Zone in the last episode is not a part of any of these plots, since he has only been in the Phantom Zone for a few decades and has no idea about any of it. New Legionnaires shown briefly in flashback: Lightning Lad and Brainiac 5. Garth resembles the Bendis version, and Brainy doesn't have a nose.
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Brainy doesn't have a nose. How does he smell? Awful.
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The latest episode of Young Justice has a pretty huge Legion info dump. Apparently in the Young Justice timeline, Zod and the other Kryptonian criminals are never released from the Phantom Zone in the current era because everybody who knew they were imprisoned died when Krypton exploded, and they are instead pardoned and released in the 31st century after 1,000 years and relocated onto the planet Daxam, where the sun drains their powers. Zod smuggles them off-world and they attempt to take over the United Planets. After some shenanigans, Lar-Zod (who spent 1,000 years as a fetus in the Phantom Zone and has a serious hatred for the Legion) takes a time sphere and alters the past so that the Legion never forms, but because the stranded Legion trio were bombarded with timey-wimey chronoton energy they remained separate from this new timeline and survived with memories of how things used to be. They came to the past to ensure the event that created the Legion would happen, which apparently involves Superboy ten years into the current day's future. Or something. And now Impulse is helping them. And Lar-Zod is not a part of Savage's plan. This also implies that the Zod we see in the Phantom Zone in the last episode is not a part of any of these plots, since he has only been in the Phantom Zone for a few decades and has no idea about any of it. New Legionnaires shown briefly in flashback: Lightning Lad and Brainiac 5. Garth resembles the Bendis version, and Brainy doesn't have a nose. And the fact they're using Bendis's racist cardboard cutout version of Garth just immediately killed my interest and made the past several weeks even worse.
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No Legionnaire appearances this Young Justice episode except for Phantom Girl's rag doll body, buuuuut... ...I'm pretty sure that was a very tiny Eye of Ekron that Lar-Zod snatched out of one of Metron's lockers. He quickly swipes it without anyone seeing and he is apparently shocked to see it and acts quickly. And being a 31st century native in this timeline, he would likely know of the eye because of the Fatal Five. It was barely bigger than a marble though.
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I always like me some out-of-context Shakespeare.
Next time we have a DC/Marvel crossover, I want it to take place in the Hostessverse
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Apparently Jim Lee's variant cover for Dark Crisis 1 has a lot of DCEU characters including TDK in the top left corner next to Starro. https://www.cbr.com/jim-lee-epic-dark-crisis-variant-cover-details-artwork-revealed/This is the first time I've posted a link. Please let me know if I did it incorrectly.
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Some more advancement in the latest episode of Young Justice, though not too much until the end as far as the Legion: Saturn Girl telepathically reaches inside the Phantom Zone and wakes Phantom Girl up just before the projector is destroyed, but Lor-Zod takes Imra hostage and commands Chameleon Boy to fly their ship away with him on it. So now Imra, Cham, Lor-Zod, Impulse, and Miss Martian's brother are on the bioship to who knows where.
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Thanks for the spoiler warning, Alexander!
It was good to see more Legionnaires in this ep, but it was also nice to see the plot move forward (finally).
While I love Young Justice's attention to minutiae and small character moments, it does tend to drag the plot out. This was the most fast paced episode in months.
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Two new appearances. First in the suicide squad dark story in round robin 2 (I’m pretty sure it’s digital only) Matter Eater Lad appears. And some dominator tech appears in the Supeboy story.
Second in the free comic book day Dao Crisis 0 there is a panel set during crisis where Dawnstar’s wings are visible.
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thanks for sharing wow, Matter-Eater Lad!!
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This is probably mindless speculation on my part since I have a tendency to see the Legion of Superheroes everywhere I look, and this also might not be the best thread for speculation so mods can move this to a new thread if they want, but: https://www.cbr.com/flashpoint-beyond-involves-major-justice-society-revelations-repercussions-dc/To quote Geoff Johns from the article, about Flashpoint Beyond: "It's a self-contained story that affects a lot of characters moving forward in the DC universe," he said. "It's self-contained (like Sinestro Corps was back when I did that) and affects the entire DC Universe. This event specifically affects members of the Justice Society, particularly the ones who are both from the past and the future. Flashpoint Beyond affects time and all things related to time. The story becomes very character-based by the time it comes to an end, and it spills out into several things that we can't talk about just yet." What member of the Justice Society is from the future? All I can think of is Thom Kallor, who was on the team as Starman during Johns' legendary run with the JSA franchise. Am I forgetting some other future-based member? A bit of a tangent here: We already know the story of Flashpoint Beyond will affect the Legion in some capacity (even if only a little, or even just as set-up for future stories) since the Legion was included on the chalkboard tease. I know Geoff Johns' work isn't popular with everyone here, but whatever your personal opinion of his creative output is, his affection for the original Legion has always been genuine and obvious so it would likely center on them. What is also obvious, at least to me, is that the original plan for Doomsday Clock was to bring the first (or retroboot) Legion back during the climax. I'll remind you there was a whole year of Saturn Girl teases in other DC books like Batman (Imra is in Arkham), Supergirl (Imra's appearance in Orlando's Supergirl was clearly scrapped at the last minute), and the Justice League VS Suicide Squad (the Emerald Empress babbling on about her). Johns was clearly forced to make it the Bendisboot Legion (and to tease 5G) when he was already mostly through with Doomsday Clock, which is why the Bendisboot Legion's appearance at the end of the last issue made no sense whatsoever from a narrative point-of-view given the build up of the previous issues. It sounds like Flashpoint Beyond's connections to Doomsday Clock might be Geoff Johns' attempt at correcting that last bit? Like he originally wanted to do? Its not like the Bendisboot has been well received by critics, or readers, or fans of coherence. His time at DC is clearly over once his current Naomi and Justice League VS Legion runs end. If Flashpoint Beyond leads to the original/retroboot Legion I would be ecstatic.
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First in the suicide squad dark story in round robin 2 (I’m pretty sure it’s digital only) Matter Eater Lad appears. "I'mma go Mouthful Mode" should be Tenzil's new catchphrase whenever he leaps into battle. Its only on DC Infinite, if anyone is wondering what Tenzil looks like with his jaw cartoonishly unhinged, snake-like, as he consumes Swamp Thing's arm fist-first before getting his skin yanked off with a gentle tug.
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or Tenzil could co-opt the Threeboot battle cry "Eat it, Grandpa!"
except drop the "it"...
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Only Phantom Girl in the latest Young Justice episode, but a fairly decent amount of dialogue from her. As far as lore goes, PG explains that Bgztl and Mars (or their dimensions) are linked by the Phantom Zone.
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Only Phantom Girl in the latest Young Justice episode, but a fairly decent amount of dialogue from her. As far as lore goes, PG explains that Bgztl and Mars (or their dimensions) are linked by the Phantom Zone. Is this the first time we've heard "Bgtzl" spoken aloud?
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Only Phantom Girl in the latest Young Justice episode, but a fairly decent amount of dialogue from her. As far as lore goes, PG explains that Bgztl and Mars (or their dimensions) are linked by the Phantom Zone. Is this the first time we've heard "Bgtzl" spoken aloud? that alone is worth the price of admission!
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Another episode of Young Justice and the Legion trio continue to romp about, but only Phantom Girl was prominent in this one. We do get to see Bgztl in the 21st century after Tinya phases to it with Miss Martian, but only briefly. Its a blasted wasteland with lightning storms, but Phantom Girl claims in the 31st century it is a giant city. Tinya also exclaims some kind of phrase with the word Bgztl in it but I didn't catch what she said since it was in her strange, vowel-averse language.
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Action Comics #1043 gives another view of the 21st Century Durlan United Planets President who is shown with similar appearance to President Brande in the most recent Legion series. Not a direct Legion link but interesting. Of course being Durlan they could use any shape they wanted.
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So, the latest episode of Young Justice, huge spoiler: Ursa is chosen by the Emerald Eye of Ekron and becomes the Emerald Empress. Then she goes frolicking with the Eye before cameras, 1,000 years early. I think its safe to say this Legion's future timeline has been altered pretty bad. So badly they may not have a future to return to in the end, and may stay in the 21st century... I think there is only one episode left.
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Yeah, to be honest, I'm not all that happy with this season. A lot of stuff that went nowhere dragged out way too long and now we have to wrap it up in an episode.
This whole season has been like a Bendis comic.
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At this point I'm back to watching the show just for Will and Lian Harper
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Okay I don't care if t's gauche to say it but you need to read the DC Pride book so I can tell you all what I did
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