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I loved Dillon's art. There are several standout features, such as the expressive face of Sorcsis and the alien landscape, which appeared both barren and majestic. The blimp-steeds were also wonderfully designed. The shot of Val flying one on Page 17 took my breath away.


Unfortunately, he looked pretty Caucasian for most of the preboot, as well--especially in his own series. There's one issue in the early '70s (S/LSH #210), in which Val looks suspiciously like Bruce Lee. Otherwise, most artists--or DC in general--seemed to ignore his ethnicity.



As you noted before, the Xanthu issue doesn't mention the Lost's return either. I think this was a good choice on DnA's part. Clearly, some of the ex-Legionnaires are occupied with more pressing matters and good news doesn't always reach the far ends of the galaxy at the same speed. These events remind me that Juneteenth is now a US holiday because it commemorates the date many African-Americans learned that slavery had been abolished, even though this act had occurred several months prior.

I was in exactly the same boat with this one.


This made me laugh, because both statements are true.


I thought that was neat, too. I didn't have too much of an issue with Val taking the ring, since he had discarded his own, and I think he showed a good deal of foresight. But I remember looking at the countdown and the travel times that were described between the points of action, and I was wondering how exactly they were going to resolve that. Keeping them on Steeple was a good twist, and really shows a lot about Val's character.


Yeah, Giffen really hated Val almost as much as Dirk! My thought here was, and I guess we will find out soon in The Legion, that DnA were just setting this up for something else, either for a basic rescue or some kind of earth-shattering usage of Steeple for something, since its the only DnA-introduced world in this series.


Filler, it was, but it did give us an idea of the Overwatch in action. Before this, we'd only seen mention of them, and M'Onel's one man army approach in the first issue. But other than that...


And you're right - for some reason I was getting the backup issues confused and forgot that they didn't mention it on either Xanthu story! The DnA universe set up an interesting dichotomy on travel and communication in this Legion universe after the Stargates were destroyed. Communication is handled across the light years by telepathic means, so communications are typically fast and close to real time, unlike the travel situation which takes months between worlds for most. Having communications tied to travel times (like pre-industrial times) makes control over a government challenging at best. Here, when you can call for help and have that call answered immediately, but not be able to provide help for months, creates a very dark and dystopian environment.

I remember a lot of speculation at the time that DnA would introduce a rebooted Tyroc from Steeple (or at least a character who is to Tyroc what Shikari is to Dawnstar). I don't remember many details about this theory, other than that the periodic cutting off of Steeple is similar to Marzal's periodical dimensional shifts.

Oooh that?s an interesting parallel! Never thought of that!!!

OMG, that's a really great point, EDE. I'd never considered the Steeple/Marzal parallel...

Legion Worlds #6

Released September 26, 2001
DC Comics, Color
39 Pages

Story #1 - You Are Here:Rimbor
Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning - Writers
Kilian Plunkett - Artist
Tom McCraw - Colors
Mike McAvennie - Editor

Synopsis

We follow the typical LW intro exposition, but this time its Tinya Wazzo thinking about husband Jo Nah's advice of never leaving the Q as an image of Jo is imposed on the background of the establishing shot. Tinya flies into the foreground. Sure enough, she is spotted by the Cobra gang, who cat-call her. Following her husband's remembered advice, she keeps moving but flies right into another hovercar. She phases to pass through it, but her little bundle is not so lucky. Tinya herself ends up somehow landing in an alley. The bundle was gelato, but now the gang-bangers are surrounding and threatening to rape her.

Out of nowhere, the Vipers are attacked by a "Wolf" on the Cobra "turf" with an assist from Tinya herself. Tinya and her rescuer talk about how it was stupid to go wandering outside the "Q" (so the newcomer and Jo's advice were both ignored) and Tinya at least admits it was stupid. But she had a craving for gelato as, it is now revealed, she is VERY pregnant. Why she didn't ask her friend to get it for her is beyond me. But her friend again reinforces the advice that Jo had given her over a year ago - DON'T GO OUT ALONE.

We now visit three men looking for Tinya. These three appear to be the same three who spoke with Winema Wazzo at the end of the LW3 backup story. They hold a Jinx-dog, a Durlan animal who is a great tracker when a target's DNA is provided to it. And this hexaped has a replica of Tinya's head sticking out of the side of its body! The exposition notes that it has a "bio-sympathetic nature" which is what causes the head replica. A bunch of Emerald Dragons threaten the three men - wearing Ultra Boy's sign as he was apparently a member of that gang. THe three men then reveal their secret - they are not humans, but rather wearing human "suits"; one is a Dominator, one is a Gil'Dan in a robot suit, an another is a very burly man. One assumes they disposed of the Emerald Dragons.

The next scene takes us to the Wolf Gang den, where Tinya has returned. Her savior, Brin, shows concern over Tinya and wants to take her to the doctor. She apparently shoud not be phasing while pregnant (nor should she be dropping several stories into an alley). We get a little more backstory here- she's with the Wolf Clan because Tinya apparently saved Brin's life, so her being there is something of a life debt going on here. We do get recognition (thankfully) that Tinya is half Carggite, which is part of why Brin is so concerned.

Tinya rests in little Hubble's room, and the readers are finally given some backstory exposition. After the rift incident, Winema took control of Tinya's life for four months, so naturally she ran away to the biggest crime den in the galaxy looking for traces of her husband's life. She started asking around about his people, got in immediate trouble and somehow met Brin.

The hunters, again in their human suits, field a call from Winema on Earth. True to form, Winema insults her daughter and reveals that she declared Winema legally incompetent.

Brin and Tinya discuss their owing each other their lives before a meeting Tinya is about to have. Apparently in the event where Brin saved Tinya, Tinya also saved Brin on a "wild night." Tinya goes in to meet Jo's mother. The reboot Jo is apparently a bastard child who ran away from home. Tinya wants to try and connect with Jo's family for emotional support. She tells the woman (unknown if this is Mytra) that she is the VP's daughter, who naturally then wants a payoff. She phases away, hurting herself, before Brin comes in to break it up.

Back at the Wolf Lounge, the crew is starting to freak out about the baby coming. Then news comes of the Legion returning to Earth! And Tinya's going into labor! One of the crew rushes to get the doctor, but is attacked by the hunters who have tracked Tinya to the Wolf hideout. The hunters burst in and, finally, address Brin fully - Brin Londo, AKA Timber Wolf - of COURSE it's Timber Wolf! Xoth (the Dominator), Swool (the Gil'Dan) and Kuga (the muscle), along with their Durlan hound are here to take Tinya.

The climactic fight sequence begins and it turns out, Kuga is a Carggite, so triplicates for the fight. Xoth enters Hubble's room to examine Tinya. He's just after the baby, as no money was offered for Tinya herself, threatening to deliver the baby as a C-section without the ansthesia. Brin goes into Timber Wolf mode and dispatches Kuga, then focuses on Swool.

We are given exposition telling us that the Jinx-dog is growing more like Tinya, so is sharing birth pains and, as we see, a maternal protectiveness, so jumps at Xoth, grabbing him and pushing them both out the window. Tinya cries out to Jo and the baby suddenly appears above, and outside, Tinya's stomoch. Brin struggles with Swool, who then is dispatched by Tinya phasing through his exo-suit, damaging it and saving Brin. Mother looks amazing and the baby is fine.

What is apparently the next day, Brin and Tinya (now wearing her Legion jumpsuit) are headed back to Earth, having pilfered the hunters' tickets on the new Footstep Liner that happened to be at the starport. They leave both having found something in each other and toss about baby names.


Story #2 - A Moment Here
Dan Abnett - Writer
Mike McKone - Pencils
Marlo Alquizza - Inks
Tom McCraw - Colors
Mike McAvennie - Editor

This story takes place a year prior, at the memorial of the Legionnaires lost in the rift. Newly elected President McCauley dedicates the memorial and disbands the Legion in one fell speech. He offers travel to anyone who wants to return to their home. Then the narrative splits. Rokk and Ayla muse about hope; Val takes Andy under his wing for his journey; Tinya and Lyle confer, where Lyle tells Tinya he knows she's pregnant; Dyrk, Shvaughn and Zoe discuss Dyrk becoming a Sci-Cop and Zoe enlisting, with Shvaugn seeming a bit resistant; Vi and Jeka talk about Saturn Girl and how so much has changed; M'Onel meets with Venge.

Rokk tries but fails to give one of his pep talks. Luornu siggests they keep the flight rings based on a recording she received from RJ Brande, who gives the speech Rokk couldn't about how the Legion is a state of mind, a beleif that they all share.

A year later the lost Legionnaires return, and we end with "The Beginning..."


Commentary

So let me start with the art. The art is great in the lead of this issue. Sets the perfect tone of a sci-fi urban sprawl gone horribly wrong, yet still busy. A lot of used, dirty tech, like in Star Wars. It very much reminds me of Nar Shadda from the Star Wars universe; a densly populated, dirty city, lots of species of aliens, lots of bars, lots of flying cars. It was also easy to tell who was who in the different scenes, and the action storytelling worked really well, so big kudos to Plunkett. Brin handles his opponents in spectacularly brutal fashion throughout the story and I was glad to see Tinya taking action and agency. The only thing I wasn't a fan of was "ghost Jo" in the sky at the beginning. He looked weird to me. I did enjoy the new TWolf design - a decent mix of Bronze Age, and 5YL without going too much into Wolverine territory.

I'll put the bottom line up front here. I have always disliked the reboot Tinya Wazzo. I dislike entitled rich kids getting everything they want, making bad decisions and coming out without serious consequence - OR - having serious consequence but then not learning. And this ABSOLTUELY holds true in this story - which means that DnA did their characterization spot on here.

This was a mostly fun read of a story because it was set up so well and the little tidbits of background were strung out through the tale like breadcrumbs, so the reader has to progress through to get the entire story. I was a bit surprised they didn't spend more time with the Emerald Dragon gang, but I guess they wanted to put most of the focus on the new Timber Wolf, which was fine with me. I ended up liking this Brin more than I thought I would - he's ferocious in combat, but has a heart of gold and a light side as well, which was nice to see.

The good bits here:

The hunters in their humans suits was a good call back to the backup LW3 story as well as being creepy as hell.
The gag about towels and hot water.
The hacker kid in the Wolf lounge.
The "I know Tri-Jitsu"-"Do you know first aid" exchange was great.

The not so great bits:

Most everything was in Interlac, but some stuff was using our Latin alphabet that seemed out of place.
Tinya's horrible judgement was on display from the very first panel here, from going out herself for gelato, to talking to Jo's mother, hell, to running away to Rimbor in the first place (I know, then we don't get a story).
I feel like Tinya as a teen mom is a bad idea, so I'm curious to see where they take this. In most sci-fi, kid characters (as in ten or younger) don't fare well.
Granted that this was published just before 9/11 but Tinya & Brin stealing the plane tickets felt weird now.
I may have missed this, but what the hell is a 'Q'?

Where this issue completely steps on the rake is the bit with the Jinx-dog. Waiting to the very end to tell us the species also develops the same feelings as the host is a massive Deus ex machina and undercuts a lot of the story. They could have done a better job of developing that aspect of the animal along the story rather than a) hinging it all on the word "sympathetic" and b) springing that on us at the end. I don't know, have it sniff out the gelato or something. It also would seem to me that aspect may make them a not-so-great hunting animal.

Overall I *did* enjoy the story, mainly because of Brin. Hated the magic dog bit at the end, and in the end Tinya walks out into the sunshine. Who knows if she's really learned any life lessons at this point?

One thought that occurred to me when reading this - we saw the action in Ayla's story from when she escaped the outpost. It would have been great to have seen what happened with Tinya, as she and Vi were separated from Jo in a big explosion. I'm assuming its a "we'd rather not bore you with the details of our escape" kind of situation, but given the fact that Jo and Tasmia got trapped and Vi and Tinya didn't, it seems like a big deal. Also having Vi and Tinya in the same escape pod as she freaks out would have been interesting.

Another interesting aspect that occurred to me - the writers have an interesting opportunity to set up a love triangle with Brin, Tinya and Jo. Personally, in this story, I felt like Brin and Tinya have a million times more chemistry than Tinya and Jo EVER had in the reboot, so that can be a great angle to go down from an inter-team perspective. Especially since the "bad boy Jo" kissing both Shvaugn and Imra have already been introduced.

Secondary Story - this was probably the best backup story of the six, as it ties the whole series together. The only section that felt out of place was the Vi and Sensor chat, as it didn't really seem to mean anything to the rest of the Legion World stories.

It was nice to see a couple glimpses of Lori Morning, dressed in purple.

And the ending was pitch perfect. I found myself getting a bit emotional reading Brande's speech, especially after the long, dark ride of DnA beginning with Legion of the Damned, then leading into the Legion's return. It definitely left me wanting to see what's next. This backup, paired with Lost, shows that DnA were really starting to get a handle on some of the rhythm of the Legion here.

The art, however, on the backup was very uneven. Some art, like McCauley, and Brande, was great. Other faces, like Vi, XS, Zoe were all over the place and I found it jarring. I'm wondering if there was not a meeting of the minds here between penciller and inker.

So, of the six issues, I'd rank this second, but a very close second, to LW3. I feel like LW3 you could pick up and have a fun sci fi superhero story and have it all be self contained, especially in the backup. LW6 is great, but to get the full effect, you HAVE to have read all five prior issues. And the whole jinx-dog thing kind of knocks it down a few for me.

Looking back at the series its very evident that these are all done to set up plot elements for the up coming monthly title (which we'll get to soon, of course), so I'm interested to see what gets picked up and how.

There was a lot of speculation about where these story threads would go. I remember one about who the true father of Tinya's child could be . . .

I am actually surprised there was any speculation on the father of Tinyas baby

The speculation came from the fact that the Legion Lost had been gone for a year. This lead to two conclusions:

1. Jo is not the father, or

2. The pregnancy lasted longer than the usual nine months.

I just re-read # 6 and SPOILERISH:

Well, right - but both the pregnancy and the other items as we noted are all addressed in this issue, so hence my confusion as to the debate, since the entire arc of the pregnancy is documented here.

Then again we ARE talking Legion here, so speculation always abounds!

The reason for the debate: The cover was released in advance of the issue (as covers often are), so we knew Tinya was with child. We also knew Jo had been gone for a year, so we put two and two together and came up with a negative number.

Ah, ok! THAT makes sense to me. I can definitely see the antennae going up with that early release.

Not addressing why the pregnancy lasts significantly longer than the Terran norm always struck me as extremely sloppy writing. I mean... the problem is pretty easily solved, and it doesn't take much imagination to come up with a "it's a Bgztlian (or Carggite?) thing", but it just seems like something you'd work in a lime about, because it's something readers would obviously question.

Its an unusual detail that I'm surprised they didn't address. They mention it with regards to complications for delivery, but not about the gestation period.

It's an entertaining read because the wrote Timber Wolf and his pack so well, but DnA took a couple shortcuts for sure that did them no favors.

yeah, after all the lovey-dovey Tinya/Jo stuff earlier in the Reboot, it never crossed my mind that the father would be someone else other than Jo!

re the back up, it did help tie things together AND there were some nice character bits (like Sensor's anger, Lule sussing that Tinya was pregnant, Shvaughn's reaction to Zoe wanting to join the Science Police, how Val invited Ferro to come along on his trip, Lu being the one to share Brande's message, at a time when even Cos was ready to throw in the towel). but there wasn't that much NEW in it, most of what was shown we'd already learned through issues 1-5.

I DO agree it was done well, and Brande's speech at the end (and its timing) was wonderful. and then we have the Outpost reappearing. So great execution for sure (even down to the Lori cameo)

re Tinya, I felt that she was written better earlier in the Reboot (before her death) - she was more sympathetic in how she dealt with her overbearing mother, she was a very competent Legionnaire, we saw her several times speaking up and calling people out for bad behavior (like the Sci-Cops on Imsk in LSH 66 who were insensitive towards the Imskites). so early Tinya, rich kid indeed but I didn't feel she was entitled. Later issues felt like a step back to me, especially whiney Tinya in the 30th century. And especially here where Tinya makes silly, bad decisions through most of the issue. It's also a bit sad that several of the Wolfpack die because Tinya was the target.

Jo's mom not even knowing what happened to him (not even knowing he became a Legionnaire...) yeesh. I mean, Jo's real name was well-known. I found that more than a bit odd, you would have expected someone to come in and be like "oh, YOUR name is Nah right? any relation to the Legionnaire?" I wasn't surprised that she didn't follow his exploits or whereabouts, but I am surprised she didn't even know he was a Legionnaire

I always that Q stood for HQ like Headquarters.

That was the feeling of a lot of fans back then. One long-time poster expressed her hurt and dismay over any thought that Tinya had been unfaithful to Jo. In hindsight, I can see her point.

However, this was right after DnA had turned Jan into the Progenitor, so there was a feeling that anything could happen. And, as Gas pointed out, Tinya makes some very bad decisions.

Gas snuck in his review of No. 6 while I was ruminating over the pregnancy issue. I'll pop back in later with my thoughts.

Well, I think that's OK in the context of a limited series. It shows the breaking of the fellowship, if you will, to tie the series together, but also give the jump off point to the next series, so I was OK with nothing new in this part.


I think the only guy to MAYBE cash in on that scene was the poor moke who goes to get the doc... everyone else just seems to be gone, and the one guy with headphones is still there - I'd imagine he'd be dead meat too. [/quote]

But to your point about Tinya - agree totally. Up until she met Jo I liked her. But this issues story is driven fundamentally by her bad decisions and Brin watching her back. Not a great way to build rapport with your main character!


Yeah, it was kind weird. The Legionnaires are celebrity. SOMEONE would have said SOMETHING. Granted, I've encountered a ton of willfully ignorant people in my day, but this is a stretch.


OMG - someone hit me on the head with a pan! LOL That makes sense - 'Bor as in RimBOR, Q as in HQ.

My problem is that when I see Q in a sentence I automatically think BarbeQue!

Thanks for sharing the context of the time, HWW!

If I recall well, Legion 9 would state clearly that Jo indeed was the father.

Yes, I can see (and we have seen) Jo being less than faithful to Tinya versus the reverse. That fits in more with his Han Solo persona.

And the trait of loyalty on Tinya's part is one core reason why I was so mad at the end of the New 52 .

Don't worry, we'll get there in a few weeks!

Hm. This hit the stores the day after my birthday. I can't recall if I saw it as a "present," but I remember eagerly anticipating the issue. The pregnancy, as we discussed, was a big revelation, and the new Timber Wolf looked badass. I think he was the one major Adventure-era Legionnaire who hadn't been introduced in the reboot at this point.


Totally agree. I think this is the loveliest Tinya has ever looked. She looks like a real young woman, not a cookie-cutter model, like most super-heroines. The facial expressions are varied and convey so much emotion. When she's in labor, she's a mess--as she should be.


Agreed. Although Tinya isn't portrayed in the best of light, I couldn't help liking her--and her chemistry with Brin was a delight. I think it's totally understandable that Tinya would reach out to Jo's mother--not only to connect with a part of him but possibly as a replacement for her own dysfunctional mother figure. She gives Ms. Nah more than the benefit of a doubt, but Tinya's no dummy. She recognizes a bid for a reward when she sees one.

Jo's mother is a horrible human being. This leads me to wonder how he turned out so decent. Sure, he has his failings, but . . . there's a lot of his back story that could be explored.

I've never been a huge Timber Wolf fan, but I enjoyed this version. His loyalty to Tinya and his own decency despite being a gang leader speak of a multi-faceted personality. The "Think fast" catchphrase grew old very quickly, though.


Yep. I was puzzled as to why they went to the trouble of putting their "flesh-coats" back on in the middle of a fight, though. They didn't need to since Kuga did not use video to communicate with Winema. (This also makes me wonder why Winema didn't use her Titanet adept to keep in touch with her bounty hunters.)


The towels and hot water bit was fun.

The hacker kid threw me as he seems to be plopped into the story suddenly. He's in the background on the previous page, but my focus was on Tinya and Brin, so Hacker Kid was easy to overlook. When he has his closeup on Page 20, I thought we'd switched to a different scene.

As for his fate, Page 27, panel four, is unclear. It looks as if he might have been shot through the right lens of his glasses.

I also wondered what became of Hubble since Brin and Tinya left him behind. (There was a third ticket; he could have come--unless the baby counted as adult fare!)


Totally agree. The jinx-dog turning on Kuga was a cheat.


Eh, I'm with Ibby on this one. It doesn't tell us anything new. Sure, it answers some of our questions about how certain characters got to where they were, but there is too much backpedaling. I'm fine speculating that Andy and Val became friends at some point; I don't need the scene of Val off-handedly inviting Andy to join him on his quest. When a story exists solely to explain other stories, to me it shows the writers' lack of planning.

I also felt that the emotions in the story were too muted. Everybody seems to matter-of-factly accept that this is the end of the Legion--the organization to which they've devoted so much of their young lives, made friends, and found a purpose. Granted, some time may have passed since their comrades were lost and since McCauley announced their disbandment, but still somebody should have been in denial or tearful during the ceremony or during that last HQ scene. Perhaps the art could have conveyed what they were feeling, but McKone seems to lack Plunkett's skill with facial expressions. All the Legionnaires on Page 1 look like they have hangovers.

In the end, Brande's speech doesn't inspire me, either. It seems trite to say the Legion is more than an institution or a set of rules. Of course it is, but I think this was already obvious and had been at least since the Chu sting. Brande seems to be talking down to his young charges.

Also, since we know this isn't the end of the Legion, the emotional impact is lost. Perhaps this story would have been better placed in Issue #1.


It's interesting that we agree on so much with regards to this issue but have a very different outlook on how the issues stack up. If I were to rank the main stories from favorite to least favorite, it would look like this:

#2
#1
#5
#4
#6
#3

All of them are at least entertaining, though. I wouldn't rank the backup stories because only two or three seemed significant.

Ugh. I'd totally forgotten about "think fast".

That is correct - there had been a TON of speculation around him during the entire preceding five years as to when/how he would show up. I'm kind of surprised they never brought him back under the earlier McAvennie or Carlson editorships.


The ONLY criticism I had here was that after giving birth she's back to a teen figure wearing her skin tight Legion uniform. I don't care what humanoid species you are, it don't work like that.


I half agree here - Understandable that she would reach out. But the fact that she's on Rimbor should give her massive pause on what she's doing given what's happened in the past. She had some sense this time in taking Brin along with her. And I actually LOVED the chemistry with Brin. As I mentioned in the review, I think that them being a couple makes a lot more sense than Jo, but I'll reserve judgement in the new title. Lost still showed off that horrible co-dependence.


Agree on both here - Jo's background was only touched on early in the reboot, and this shows some really interesting potential. Timber Wolf, quite frankly, mostly bored me for most of the early Legion, and this character was fresh both to this version of the Legion as well as the Legion in general. For some reason, the catchphrase you and EDE mentioned rolled past me and didn't bother me.


This is a great point I hadn't thought of. Best of luck on the 'Bor, Hubble!!


I didn't view this as a lack of planning rather a "closing the loop" on the series, similar to how the first backup story was more a "get the new reader caught up" scenario, this is just to make the limited series come full circle in the main/backup format they were going with. That said, I completely agree with your comment about the emotions being too muted. Obviously some time had passed since the Rift, but it seemed here that a LOT of time had passed given that the plaza was in generally great shape. Maybe that tracks, as Earth's recovery seems to be generally fast tracked as of LW1, so maybe a week has passed to make the 1 year gap make sense.

One other thing about this scene, which I failed to comment on in LW1. Gates is memorialized here. Obviously this ties in with the Vyrgran pandemic referenced, and I do remember generally where this leads. But this is what has always driven me nuts about the McAvennie/DnA continuity - LSH 125 is pretty chaotic, but Gates is shown with Chick on the way to the pods with Rokk. Granted the scene is complete chaos. But still, someone should have said SOMETHING.





OTOH, it was the only bright moment (in coloring as well as tone) that I felt reading the Legion since LSH 121 - so 24-ish issues? The change in tone meant that we were finally getting the Legion back, which, of course, we did.


Oh definitely. If we are only considering the main story in the ranking calculation I'd have to think about that for a bit, because then, I think issue 6 is a solid 3 for me, specifically because of the dog.

For me, a good chunk of Legion stories are about tone and setting, in addition to the story mechanics by itself. So issue 6, I enjoyed the tone and artwork, but the deus ex was a big drawback. Similarly, issue 2 is a great story, but the tone and drawing didn't do it for me. So I'm gonna think about this and reply with my rankings here.

For me, I'm glad that The Legion issues are only 22 pages versus 39! Hope to start that by the end of the week depending on schedules.

Wasn't there a "Lupine" who was a potential Workforce member? A lot of people assumed that would be a version of Timber Wolf.

Yup, good spot EDE. Looked like the Furball Brin. Appeared in one panel in Legionnaires 69 as a potential Workforce candidate