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I was also really fascinated by Stoicism at one point. I drifted off (I notice how often I describe myself as drifting off from things), but I should look back into it. I remember that part of the difficulty is that no one (at least no one whose writings survived) really laid out the fundamentals of Stoicism. We had to kind of recreate it from writings of people like Marcus Aurelius, who weren't really systemic writers on philosophy, or the biased writings of people describing it in order to write a refutation.
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Yeah, pretty much everything by the original Greek Stoics (Zeno, Chryssipus, etc.) has been lost, and most of what we have left are Roman sources (the Big Three: Seneca, Epictetus, Aurelius), which are kind of watered down versions. It's not quite as if we lost everything of Christianity except the writings of Joel Osteen, but it's kind of like that.
There is a surprisingly large and diverse neo-Stoic community, however.
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Last night for work, I downloaded the new episodes of three of my comics podcasts.
Titan Up the Defense covered Defenders #50, which ended with Scorpio's suicide.
The Legion Clubhouse covered Adventure #380, which ended with the villain shooting himself in the face.
The Bronze Age Relapse covered the aftermath of Gwen Stacy's death. Thank goodness at least her actual muder was covered last week.
Keep in mind, all three of them dropped yesterday. This wasn't a backlog. Two of my comics podcasts the same day had to stop their usual light banter to talk about how serious suicide is, and how any listeners with suicidal thoughts should seek help.
A bunch of shit also went wrong at work, with two guests getting angry at me, one of whom I had to hang up on because they were shouting at me.
Imagine how badly I wish it was MY Friday, instead of calendar Friday. That's quite a load for one day. Glad you are still keeping going.
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Don't know if it counts as depression but after an infected tooth broke on me the other week, I pulled it and am feeling a lot better bout life in general. Sometimes the physical has an effect on the mental.
Damn you, you kids! Get off my lawn or I'm callin' tha cops!
Something pithy!
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Don't know if it counts as depression but after an infected tooth broke on me the other week, I pulled it and am feeling a lot better bout life in general. Sometimes the physical has an effect on the mental.
In a similar vein, I have found over the past year that I feel a lot healthier by using common sense instead of "preventative care."
Still "Fickles" to my friends.
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Glad you're both generally feeling a lot better!
I've also been more positive about life in general since going to the gym more. I usually go 3-4 times a week now at the gym in our office building. We're getting a new one near the new office we're moving to, and I will probably sign up for that one too (it's only about 10 EUR more expensive...) On the plus side, I'll be able to go even on weekends. The convenience is what matters most, I can force myself to go before heading home from work (I know if I head home first, I'll likely sit on the couch and not move again). And being forced to pay more, is enough psychological incentive to go even on the weekends...
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Well, the Doc cut me off my cigars except for one premium a week. I went from about fifteen a day to one a week. I am supposed to feel better and more healthy, but instead I am glum about it. Not meaning to make light of real depression, don't get me wrong. I know I've been down for long periods, but I honestly don't know the levels needed to be reached to be depressed.
Damn you, you kids! Get off my lawn or I'm callin' tha cops!
Something pithy!
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Well, the Doc cut me off my cigars except for one premium a week. I went from about fifteen a day to one a week. I am supposed to feel better and more healthy, but instead I am glum about it.
Rick, I have a long-time friend my age who chain smoked cigars for the 35 years I've known him. He was an athlete and always active. We've lived in different parts of the country for the past 20 years. I visited him a couple of years ago and was surprised at how unhealthy he was. I easily outwalked and outclimbed him, which was new. As far as I could tell, it was the smoking that had taken its toll. Don't be that guy. This cigar-less gloom will pass, my friend.
"Everything about this is going to feel different." (Saturn Girl, Legion of Super-Heroes #1)
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...This cigar-less gloom will pass, my friend. ..like the lifting of a giant cloud of cigar smoke, funnily enough. A friend said it took him around 4 months to really start to feel over the stopping smoking glums. He said that promoting self confidence really helped, whether it was little rewards or general pep talking.
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
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The initial quitting is always the hardest. Stay strong, Rick. Maybe something else can fill the void?
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Something else like a replacement, but something hugely rewarding too... like Legion World Posting?!
"...not having to believe in a thing to be interested in it and not having to explain a thing to appreciate the wonder of it."
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Hang in there. I bet it isn't easy making such a big change to your intake. If you are felling lousy at the moment then that is how you should be feeling, at the moment. It will take time for your body to adjust but after that things should feel better. Your pocket as well I imagine.
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Been super bummed the past few weeks, anxiety through the roof. Hope everyone here is holding out alright.
Keep up with what I've been watching lately! "Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio? Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you."
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Big hugs, Kappa.  I went through a really deep downer spell just a little over a week ago. But it did have the silver lining of helping me finally admit to myself that living in borderline isolation just doesn't work for me anymore (if it ever did.)
Still "Fickles" to my friends.
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Thank you so much, Ibby!
Still "Fickles" to my friends.
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Ann. (sorry im late)
Keep up with what I've been watching lately! "Where have you gone, Joe DiMaggio? Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you."
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Awww. Thanks, Kappa.
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Hang tough, Ann. I know about self imposed isolation. I broke it by deciding to put myself out there and just try to make new friends. Turns out, I got a wife out of it.
Damn you, you kids! Get off my lawn or I'm callin' tha cops!
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Thanks, Rick. 
Still "Fickles" to my friends.
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As I said a couple days ago in the current Kill This Thread game, I'm dealing with my latest severe bout of depression.
In the last 24 hours, a couple nice things have happened to me that are helping me keep my head held high. But, Gods, it's just so hard a lot of the time to see the point of doing anything productive as the world continues its spiral down the cosmic toilet.
I have no children and no partner, and while I have a small circle of friends and family for direct support, it still gets lonely a lot of the time. And at least in the past I could tell myself that I'm just laying in the bed that I made when I was young and foolish. Now it's like the whole planet is on the same boat.
On the other hand, I need to keep reminding myself that there are a lot of people who have it far worse than I do.
And take everything day by day.
Still "Fickles" to my friends.
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Big hugs, Fanfie.
it can get lonely being alone, indeed. Hope we here can help a bit with that, even if we only interact online.
Glad some nice things have come by to ease things too.
It can be a daily struggle... sending some good vibes your way, and happy to keep sending more every day
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Thank you, Ibby. You and my other Legion Worlder friends help tremendously. 
Still "Fickles" to my friends.
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I?m sorry.  I?m not sure what advice I can provide other than to tell you to focus on those really nice things and try and use them to propel you forward. The last year and a half has been really hard on everyone for so many different reasons, and a lot of us have been there. So there is safety in numbers, I guess. And you have all of us wackadoodles here on LW! 
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Thank you, GL. Yes, Gods bless this Legion of Wackadoodles. Maybe that'd be an even better name for this community than Legion World. 
Still "Fickles" to my friends.
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