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Speaking of Dirk, I remember at the time thinking that they'd taken the really bold step of rebooting him as female, which was ironic considering his traditional "womanizer" portrayal.

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Would have been bold... of course, ended up not being Dirk! I wonder if the creative team had planned for girl-Inferno to be a rebooted Dirk...

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Originally Posted by Eryk Davis Ester
Speaking of Dirk, I remember at the time thinking that they'd taken the really bold step of rebooting him as female, which was ironic considering his traditional "womanizer" portrayal.

Shades of Blake Edwards' 1991 movie "Switch."


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Would have been bold... of course, ended up not being Dirk! I wonder if the creative team had planned for girl-Inferno to be a rebooted Dirk...

I kind of wonder if they intentionally left it ambiguous at first, to see what the reaction would be. They didn't seem to have much of a plan with what to do with Dirk once they finally introduced him.

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Good point! Wouldn't be the first time they changed something mid-stream...

And yeah, poor Dirk. First appeared and gained powers in Legionnaires 29... but they did nothing with him again until LSH 81, so he missed the boat on joining the Legion in time for the Fatal Five / Chu sting (LSH 77-80, Legionnaires 34-37). Then he promptly re-appears and loses his powers in LSH 83-84...

they were also moving forward with bringing girl-Inferno into the Legion, she shows up suddenly in LSH 84 and is part of the group stranded in the 20th century... but leaves the team in LSH 96, never officially joining as a full-time member... though it would have been a big stretch bringing her in, as we see her killing someone in Legionnaires 21... yet they did give her some good moments, especially in Legionnaires Annual 2. eh.

most hilarious "hardcore, I'm edgy" moment for me was in LSH 85. Inferno asks Brainy: "are you the genius that builds time machines? is it your fault we're stranded in the past?" and promptly tries to burn him... um Inferno, if you kill the genius how are you getting home???

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Yeah, the storylines of both characters seemed to lead nowhere. I don't believe they ever met, did they? That might have been interesting.

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No, Inferno remained in the 20th century once that storyline mercifully ended.

But yeah, I thought them meeting would have been great.

I think any controversy of recasting Inferno as a woman and not even introducing Dirk may have been more along the lines of when Katee Sackhoff was cast as Starbuck in the BSG relaunch.


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Dirk Morgna was a womanizer but not an unpleasant/crude one. Recasting Starbuck is a good example of taking a party guy (if I recall the original correctly) and giving his role to a strong woman. I'm also reminded of a Penelope Cruz movie in which she played a sexy female waitress in the afterlife after being a mafia boss who abused women, more of a joke on the original character.

Dirk Magz is pretty much a cipher to me at this point, don't recall much about him at all.


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Dirk Morgna and Sandy Anderson did meet in LSH 84 smile they teamed up to attack Regulus together and got knocked out for their efforts.

Sandy complimented Dirk on being? hot headed

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I'll have to look that up some time, because I don't remember it at all.

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Dirk Morgna and Sandy Anderson did meet in LSH 84 smile they teamed up to attack Regulus together and got knocked out for their efforts.

Sandy complimented Dirk on being? hot headed

That's right! I totally forgot that they were both in play just before Emerald Vi. Can't believe I forgot that! LOL


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Fun and mayhem continues!

As FC commented there is some good character development continuing here in spite of the rapidly increasing cast. There are 16 characters in the final group shot and everyone of them had their moment to act and speak, some multiple times, during the story with each displaying their personality. This all without interrupting but instead furthering the plot itself. Good writing.

I can't remember if we ever find out who was behind the breakout. Presumably White Triangle shenanigans but we will see. I still agree that five years is too long but whatever.

Gim's smashing of the ships as the only way to contain the criminals is a bold move but also consistent with his SP training background.

Good comments on the legionnaires always being the ones to watch others' backs. The workforce show some strength but they don't shine as a team. (Jo's obvious enjoyment at the lack of communications with McCauley is fun.) I thought briefly that they might have been better to stay in the air using their ship's weaponry but it would have meant they couldn't use their powers and McCauley ordered them down anyway.

I am reminded of the times in the Baxter period where half a dozen legionnaires were enough to contain a breakout at Takron-Galtos. Still maybe it wasn't so many and this team is still young and learning as compared to the experienced confidence of the original Legion. Also the thing that makes the difference here is the cons getting their hands on all that weaponry. (I wondered briefly why energy weapons make the same loading noises as projectile weapons loading rounds into the chamber but I suppose the energy packs are kept separate as a safety precaution.)

That final full page panel makes a great cliff-hanger ending, even better than the previous issue. Even though I haven't read this for years I still remembered Brainiac 5's (Don't call me Brainy) "Does it matter?"

Looking forward to see how they get out of this one.

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The finale of Planet Hell! Will the combined intelligence of Brainiac 5, Invisible Kid and Evolvo be able to repair the shields and the magnetic tunnel? How will the Legionnaires, Workforce and prisoners deal with the stress of being slow-cooked inside a sun?

Thoughts:

The seeds of the Brainy-Lyle rivalry are planted here. Brainy doubts the level of Lyle's intelligence but acknowledges (perhaps a bit begrudgingly) his creativity. Lyle definitely knows that it's a bit of an issue for Brainy.

Lyle's not clean either - he refuses to admit his fear of heights (though he does successfully conquer it) and is a little cocky too (though he backs it up with results).

Brainy's very intelligently pragmatic and quickly takes charge, even giving Cosmic Boy a short speech about swift initiative (despite Cos just wanting to wish him good luck!). He knows he's smarter than Evolvo, Lyle and Imra but is willing to involve them, so we know his ego's not that big.

Some interesting insights derived from the incarcerated Legion/Workforce:

1) Live Wire and Spark still don't quite make peace despite their lives being in danger. There's quite a conflict here: Garth's mad at Ayla for taking his Legion slot, yet he also warns her about the lightning being dangerous because it builds up anger and violence. So if that's the case, why is Legion membership so important? Does he think it can help him control the lightning (but shouldn't he be happy that it will help Ayla?) Is it because he wants to be near Imra, or use the Legion's resources to find Mekt? There's a lot of conflict in that scene, and it shows that Garth's not totally clear on his priorities either.

2) XS and Karate Kid. Val's very quietly confident without being arrogant. He knows he can break through a forcefield (much to my and XS' surprise). XS shows she's probably the friendliest Legionnaire as she really tries to get to know Val. I don't think she's flirting with him, she's genuinely just friendly.

3) Chameleon and Leviathan. Cham's a nice guy, he just has the misfortune of being paired with grumpy and hot-headed Leviathan. He yells at Cham to leave him alone since they can't communicate (did he forget the telepathic earplugs? wait, have they even been introduced by now? perhaps not yet...) Cham gains a lot of points for bearing with it and offering Gim a snack!

4) Cosmic Boy/Apparition and Spider-Girl/Ultra Boy. Selfless Cos tells Tinya to phase, since it doesn't make sense that she don't. Tinya was just being nice. Makes me wonder, if the whole prison burns up in the star she'd likely survive in phased form - though she wouldn't be able to get out without outside help. I don't think her jetpack (if she could retrieve it) would be enough to get her back to Earth. Oh well.

Poor Tinya walks in on Jo and Sussa heavily making out. I think Tinya's shocked more by it being Jo (with whom she had a moment last issue) than by them kissing - she walked in on a naked guy using adult entertainment back at McCauley's Moon base remember?
Poor Tinya, and boy what a lug you are Jo. Playing around with two women at the same time. Okay, not quite playing around, but he obviously can't get Tinya off his mind. Not good.

I guess Sussa and Jo don't quite mind being seen? I mean, those prison screens are transparent...

5) Triad and Inferno. I'm not a fan of Inferno's rampant bullying, but she DID have a point as Triad's three bodies were taking up too much space. I still don't get the whole "I don't have to kill you" thing. I know she's pretty casual when it comes to killing, but really? Would she really have killed Triad for not re-integrating? Maybe she's just bluffing and maintaining her persona.

Imra has a great idea in using Bur Rac to calm the prisoners, but sadly she wasn't able to screen his thoughts. Oops. His racist thoughts point to a larger conspiracy afoot and may be related to the movement to destroy the UP.

Lyle pulls off a last-minute save by not only reactivating the forcefield, but causing it to repel the sun's energy and propel Planet Hell out of it! He can also generate the field anywhere he wants, and with a snap he contains all the prisoners.

Last page shows Jo talking with Tinya, and then attempting to pacify an angry Sussa. Grife, make up your mind will you? Garth is talking to Lu, but Ayla's nowhere to be seen - guess they still haven't made up. And Jenni's still hanging out with Val - boy, she sure is friendly! Or was something more being planned?

Planet Hell Part 3 is a good comic and shows how character relationships are handled well and made interesting. They take up as much space as the main action without slowing down the momentum of the story. Heck, each of the dozen-plus characters gets at least one good bit in this story! A+ for me.


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Reverse a force field polarity, expel the prison from the star, use forcefield to also contain prisoners until SPs arrive and that's a wrap. Comic book science at its best, courtesy of Lyle Norg (and Tom Peyer). It's the character interactions that make this issue shine, however.

Not surprising, it all gets solved relatively quickly once Lyle is given free reign to apply practical science. It could be Brainy was trying too hard to fix Coluan technology, while Lyle just looked for a way for them all to survive.

Their interaction is open to interpretation. Brainy admits that he asked Lyle a gibberish question as a test and Lyle gave a gibberish answer, which demonstrated his inventiveness. Brainy must know there's more to solving a problem than the ability to come up with a quick lie. I read it as Brainy initially snubbing Lyle then finding a way to save face and include him. Evolvo might be expected to provide some help and Imra supplied surveillance; Brainy might have expected Lyle to contribute practical expertise. Ironically, it was Evolvo's brute force self that was needed and one has to wonder if Brainy had that in mind as well. It's not clear at this point if Brainy is a good strategist.

Lyle's fear of heights is tossed in there, possibly for a future story (although I don't recall it was used again).

I agree with IB that XS is just a very friendly person; there's no sense that she's flirting with Val. She seems to be practicing a karate kick at the end. Val comes off as very sensible as he justifies working for a man he doesn't respect. Among the incarcerated, Val is the only one trying to break out - and he succeeds. Tinya could phase out, as she does only to check in on Jo, but why wouldn't Rokk have instructed her to check on the others if she could move between cells?

The Ranzz twins together raise the question of why people wound up together. Was it just random shoving two Legionnaires/Workforce into a cell, or did they chose to be together? I like the idea that Garth and Ayla chose to be together, family bond in time of trouble, although they just snipe at each other. The idea that use of the lightning builds up anger in the wielder hasn't been directly addressed in past stories although there's always been something impulsive and explosive about the Ranzz children. It's another foreboding element for the future.

Inferno's a curious character. Hard, tough - a front or it that her real personality? She shows some sense here, telling Triad to combine into one given the heat in that two-person cell. I'm interested to see how Inferno goes from who she is at present to eventually working with the Legion.


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Re Lyle's fear of heights, it comes into play in L* 33! When "Starfinger" dissolves Lyle's flight ring. A fun little trivia fact, though I don't remember it coming into play in the later Reboot...

Re Tinya phasing through cells, I often wondered what she would have done if she had been seen. Could have been interpreted as an escape attempt... Also interesting that she can escape from the heat and light while phased, but makes sense - we've seen energy attacks go through her. She has the best chance of surviving among everyone here I think.

Also, two-person cells... there's not even enough space for both of them to lie down

And Sussa/Jo making out in full view of everyone just screams "jock and cheerleader"

Gim smashing ships was indeed a nice tactical move,

and I agree with stile -excellent writing, so many characters but each had their time to shine and a distinct personality

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This doesn't quite seem to grip me as much as the previous two issues but I can't tell if that is just because it is wrapping up or because I have read it so often that I know what's going to happen. It's still pretty good, continues and finishes the story while further deepening the relationships.

Not much else to add. I enjoyed the Brainy banter with Lyle and just about everyone else. The Brainy/Evolvo mind level discussion always appealed since I had been around long enough to have read the old Luthor Brainiac story where Luthor rewires the original android Brainiac from tenth to twelfth level. Exactly how that ended up being passed on to his fleshy "descendants" has occasionally been referenced over the years (as in "my ancestor found a way" kind of thing) but never really explained.

Val's characterisation also appeals. I think there have actually been times where his "power" has been listed as finding the weak spot in anything, while still leaning into it simply being training, practice and determination.

Garth's love/fear of the lightning is a bit more explored here with him explaining a bit more what he worries about it. I remember that the writers will continue to delve into this which I approve.

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Ah, the Luthor rewiring - that's where this 10th and 12th level stuff comes from. The threeboot also used that distinction between Coluans and DnA trot out the eighth level as being more emotionally balanced. Guess they just stuck to even numbers.


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If I recall, the ?8th level as optimum? comes form reboot - Sharn nux

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Membership drive! This is one of my favorite issues as we're introduced to three new members: familiar face Shrinking Violet; somewhat familiar face Andromeda, who reminds us of 5YL creation Laurel Gand; and completely new face (though with familiar Life Lass powers) Kinetix. This is a much better "introduction" issue than LSH 62 was as we are given enough time to really get to know each of the three.

We also see two "rejects" who do not join for various reasons: Lume, an energy being with light and heat powers; and the teleporting bug Gates.

Thoughts:

The 3 New Legionnaires

Each of the 3 newbies adds a very different set of skills and personalities to the team.

Shrinking Violet is possibly the best hand-to-hand fighter the team has now, as others who've demonstrated some combat skills (Apparition, Saturn Girl, Invisible Kid, Triad) have not shown a level of skill anywhere near Violet's! Her ability to shrink down to the subatomic level is also a key asset, as anyone familiar with the JLA's Atom knows. Her shyness is greatly balanced out by the fact that she's extremely confident in battle; she's clearly had a lot of training, more than most of her teammates.

Kinetix's ability to animate inanimate objects makes a good long-range weapon, and would also be useful in non-combat situations like search and rescue. Her description here makes it clear that she has to control the object when she uses her power on it, so it's not as though she actually gives them a life of their own. She's the most personable of the three and looks like she would get along with everyone else; her fascination with increasing her already impressive powers (making her late for the tryout) is a mild warning button but besides that she looks like she has the makings of a great Legionnaire.

Andromeda is easily the most powerful Legionnaire right now, and she demonstrates impressive control over her powers (she should be strong enough to crush her trainers, but manages to punch one relatively unharmed into the nearby pool)! Sadly, her extreme xenophobia and the need of a transuit to protect her from lead are glaring weaknesses.

The story

Each of the introductions is designed to let us discover what makes each of the characters unique. Andromeda's is a combat situation that neatly shows off all her powers, and demonstrates how bad her xenophobia is. At the very least, she's not actively violent against the others; she doesn't so much as hate other races as just deems them grossly inferior. Of course, the UP (despite some of their questionable decisions lately) wouldn't be so dumb as to accept a Legionnaire who might murder her teammates in their sleep. she'll be difficult to work with, but she'll do her job.

We're also promised a new Xanthuan Legionnaire who's been in a space-cruiser accident. Longtime fans surely picked up on that Star Boy's coming!

I applaud Imra for continuing to be strong and questioning Chu on their membership decisions. Of course, she does also prejudge the new Xanthuan Legionnaire based on her opinion of Kid Quantum.

It was nice seeing Gim and Cham getting along a lot better. Cham's selfless gesture on Planet Hell paid off!


Gim and Cham travel to Silvan to pick up the energy-being Lume, who throws off heat and light. You already see him with some limited shape-changing ability (in one panel he suddenly shrinks, and his default form seems to be as a small burst of light). Sadly, he can't leave his homeworld - is it because he's physically prevented from doing so or he's just afraid of the dark? Too bad, as Lume's powers were promising and he would have added a lot of diversity.

Their second jaunt is to Vyrga, to meet future Legionnaire Gates. I'm pretty sure the letter-columns somewhere revealed that Gates was originally supposed to be a one-shot reject character; I'm glad they eventually did use him. He and Lume helped expand our knowledge of the UP to include some very "alien" worlds. Gates' teleportation powers are also very potent - he can teleport other objects even without being in contact with them. 'Porting Gim and Cham into the air over a sharp cliff was pretty dirty and dangerous though. "Teenage death squad" has got to be one of the funniest phrases I've read since the series started!

Triad's still harboring some resentment towards Inferno - not surprising

Last one is Aleph, for Kinetix. We meet her in a cave where she's searching for something to give her more power. Her brother Thanot probably echoes what was on a lot of reader's minds; her power's already pretty impressive, why play with things that may not actually strengthen her but instead do much more grievous harm?

Her preparations for her audition show a much more "typical teenager" side to her; using her power to have fun and try on different outfits. Hey, who among us would not love to use superpowers such as this in our everyday lives right? She has a nice sense of style too - and she thinks Cham is cute! Here's a hero who wants to have fun, and I found it immediately appealing and attractive Leviathan does as well, apparently. Wonder if this will go anywhere, and if Kinetix can help temper his rough spots. It was also good of the writers to have Chameleon participate in Zoe's power demonstration, as his shapeshifting helped show how versatile her own powers can be.

Now we head over to Imsk where Apparition and Spark are tasked with picking an Imskite. Tinya's clearly taking the lead here - the way she told off the insensitive cop made me cheer. Her experience helping out her mom paid off. The cop's attitude is very immature in fact; I'd think even a "normal" citizen would be in his/her place telling off that cop.

The contest between Violet, Ion and Micro takes a deadly turn as Ion is murdered by Micro. The mystery isn't too deep - an auraflux blade was planted on her and both Violet and Micro would have had motive. Violet's actions clearly show it wouldn't be her unless she's a very good actress, and it would have been surprising to say the least. But the way the mystery was solved is very satisfying, with good teamwork from Spark, Apparition and Violet and a very astounding fight scene where Violet absolutely creams Micro through intelligent use of her powers and amazing combat skills. Tinya's glowing endorsement shows that Violet really is likely the best fighter in the current lineup. Violet really wanted to earn her membership - and she did.

And so we end with 13 Legionnaires, 5 guys and 8 gals. The Legion's always had a pretty decent balance between the sexes, but I can't remember the last time the females outnumbered the males. What's even better is that each of the Legionnaires has a very different personality (and Triad has 3!).

All in all an exciting issue which had a lot of action, and promises a lot more action, drama and fun to come! Definitely an A+ for me.


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The Legionnaires get some say in choosing their new members, albeit from a selection of government approved candidates. It's a combination of old-time tryouts and planetary draftees which allows for a deeper exploration of personalities and powers than we saw with the members who were simply sent by their government.

Lume didn't fit in here, though, not understanding that leaving home was a requirement of joining the Legion. The character was a bit too flower child for my taste, although such an exotic creature would have brought some much-needed alien flavour to the group.

Gates was funny, likeable and demonstrating a useful power. I wonder if first-time readers were disappointed that he rebuffed the Legion. I would have been, for his combination of snark, teleportation and alien look.

The Imskians' scene is the most involved with a murder. Micro is stupid to think he could get away with murder, but his extreme sabotage of another candidate demonstrates the high stakes involved for wannabe Legionnaires. This Violet shows a lot of potential; she's much more of a force to be reckoned with than was evident in her SW6 counterpart. She's smart, observant, a good fighter and ethical; more quiet and reserved than timid.

Kinetix is the performer and one senses her great energy of personality as well as power. She clearly stands out from the other characters, you just expect her to be taking centre stage wherever she goes. High level of confidence, possibly over-confidence is evident. I totally forgot she had a brother.

Andromeda is a big departure from both 5YL and SW6 Andromedas. Cold, superior, duty-bound, she's a political pawn in the U.P. game. Rokk is delighted to have such a powerhouse in the group, but the other faces display some consternation. The image of lovestruck Brainy with a grin on his face is funny, but I found the final page with him just standing there awestruck a lot more promising for a good future story.


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I recall reading that Gates eventually joined because so many fans liked him. That snark and that teleportation power make him an A-class Legionnaire, in my book!

Nice mix of personalities from the 3 new joiners too. Andromeda?s xenophobia versus Kinetix?s energy vs. Vi?s shyness but hidden depths

Also, each provides the team with a great boost. Even Vi?s shrinking, her fight scenes show how effective her power can be. And she?s already the team?s best hand to hand combatant, having shown more martial prowess than even Triad, Apparition or Invisible Kid

Lume. Agree, interesting power and concept - very alien 1 but not being able to leave home due to the darkness or space = cannot fit

The Gim / Cham ?friendship? continues to develop, with Cham?s patience and kindness last issue paying off. It?s a nice development and shows that Gim can be a softie to those who deserve it

Also liked Marla Latham showing up and playing a small role - makes sense that the Legion should have an adult advisor. And he is sensible and level headed, but more stern than RJ Brande - making a nice contrast.

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This issue is a perennial favorite of mine, as it was the introduction of two of my favorite characters of the reboot, Shrinking Violet and Kinetix.

The weaving of the three stories into one issue was very well done. We see Andromeda, newly reintroduced as a xenophobe, beating on some poor sap assigned to spar with her, which was an amusing scene due to the man's reaction to Andromeda's powers.

Kinetix's story was necessarily much more detailed as she was a completely new character at this point - So we have to show her personality, something of her backstory, and obviously her powers. All three were done very well, as we see her looking for artifacts to augment her abilities (which can be seen as a big red flag) with her brother (who here looks older than her - I wasn't a big fan of a lot of Moder's work in that regard). Then she has fun both playing with her wardrobe but also doing her audition with her powers, showing of her fun and flirty nature.

I know Kinetix seemed to be a very binary character with people when the series came out in that they either love her or they hate her, and I guess this is why. She seemed not to take a lot of what was going on very seriously (all the outfits, for example) and I think that rubbed a lot of folks the wrong way even as it endeared her to many others.

And Vi was straight up a badass in this story. Shy, as is her nature, but when its time to get things done, she's all business and takes down Micro with ease. She even feels like its not fair for her to have won by default, not knowing that her fight had been caught on cameras; it says a lot about her sense of fairness. Still, the dialogue implies there was some kind of a deeper relationship between her and Ion, and I would have liked to have seen that followed up on in some way.

Its also interesting that while Vi and Ayla became friendly with each other, the writers never went close to any kind of relationship there on the heels of the pre-ZH Legion. Vi and Tinya I don't think say two words to each other after this issue for the rest of the reboot.


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?I really liked Ion?

Zoe, despite her taking things lightly and having fun here, would go on to have some competent moments at least

And yeah, Vi and Tinya don?t get much screen time together later, other Than both being on the Espionage Squad

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Fat Cramer #1005970 08/20/21 08:24 AM
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Kinetix' lightness and the whole wardrobe thing didn't appeal to me, too Millie the Model comics (which I loved as a little girl). Many people like costume redesigns, though, especially when they're just temporary. It's her serious moments that endear me to the character. I know she gets into some trouble with artifacts of power at some point, but isn't she generally very competent throughout the series?


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I did like the costume changes - though it was flighty, I did like that she genuinely enjoyed using her powers. After all, if I had super powers I would also have fun with them smile

She does have some good serious moments - watch out for L* 25 and LSH 69, where she gets in a couple of good hits against the Composite Durlan (who gains the powers of ALL the Legionnaires!) She also has some very good power use moments later on, such as vs. Mordru, Bizarro Legionnaires, using her powers to repair broken cruisers/damaged Outpost etc.

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