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Hi, Gaseous Lad.

I don't have the 2995 Sourcebook; hence my reason for asking for exact dates. For my understanding of Legionnaires' birthdays, I relied on the Super DC Calendar published in the 1970s. I wonder if the same dates are used in the 2995 Sourcebook.

There is a certain amount of children's fantasy in the Legion that was more subtle in the preboot but played up more in the reboot. The idea that these are all teenagers who are trusted to be the greatest heroes of their time, and they have a billionaire (later president) rooting for them and paying their bills sounds like something that would appeal to very young readers who don't question things too much. So it makes sense that no one gave a second thought to 15-year-old Tinya getting married and having a baby when she was, what, 17? It's ironic to reflect that in our modern era, teenage weddings are considered something of the past and a feature of less progressive cultures (child brides), while many people from more educated segments of society are waiting until their late 20s and even 30s to have families. I thought it was kind of charming that the reboot creators wanted their young heroes to "have it all," but it also seems kind of creepy now.

I have all 3 Legion Sourcebooks. If you got a pdf viewer here is the 2995 sourcebook

https://smallpdf.com/result#r=0d6a4eef302333631362823386e4b705&t=share-document

They appear to be. I searched for, and found, several editions of the calendar that had been put online. I didn't check everyone, but the birthdays of Rokk, Imra, Garth/Ayla, Luornu and Tinya all track between both. Given the Beirbaums and the Mayfair tendency for tracking those little details, I'd imagine that the calendars (or whatever sources the calendar creators used) are the ultimate source of these dates.


I thought the same. Granted half of the appeal of the Legion is the soap-opera-ish stories between the team members, but the married & pregnant Tinya seemed a bit rushed. And while the Legion was definitely written orginally for kids and teenagers in the 60s & 70s, when they aged the Legionnaires into the 80s & 90s they did so for their reader demographic. So the Reboot was great to get back to the original concept, but yeah, having teenagers wed seemed a bit off to me. I was pretty much ok with most of the other choices the PMS team made, but I think they tried to overcompensate for the fans with the reboot Tinya/Jo relationship and it comes off worse in 2021 than it did in 1995.

And yeah, going by this chronology, and if The Legion picks up one year after LSH 125, Tinya would have been 16 when she had Cub and turned 17 a couple months later. Granted we live in a world of where pregnant teens exist, but I dunno, I'm not sure I'd feature that situation in a teen comic, but then again, in the current title we have a Mon-El who is a teen(?) dad with multiple kids. Again, not my first choice of a depiction.

A (teen?) dad who doesn't mention that to his current girlfriend, and whom the mom(s?) of his 3+ children are conspicuously absent, both from his life, and from his home. Something weird's going on there. It's like a Disney family. A dad with questionable parenting skills and a never-to-be-mentioned absent mother. (See, Ariel, Pocahontas, Belle, Jasmine, etc.)

Then again, the Colossal Boy of the Bendisboot comes from a culture that decants their offspring as fully grown adults, and allows them no childhood at all, so, also yikes. "Welcome to the world my son! We've named you Gim. We'll give you 24 hours to acclimate, but tomorrow you have to move out and get a job."

Oh yeah - first reading a Mon-El who gets his shorts in a bunch and openly pouts before running back home, then seeing him with multiple kids without their mom(s) around, totally shook me out of that world Bendis had been writing. From a world building perspective, the Mon-El situation in Benisverse was one of a handful of elements that REALLY soured me of his run. The bad dialogue was one thing, what he did to Mon-El was something else entirely.


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Wasn't that from the SF 1 where that interview takes place? If so, that makes total sense, as it was a PMS created special issue (specifically Peyer & McCraw, who set those names). I'd also make a supposition that when MM took over he may have done a "soft ageing" of the characters by a couple years, but didn't call it out. However, PMS always generically set the timeframe in the 30th century - they rarely specified years, where MM's run definitely called out years. Granted it was one of those things where they tried to make the Legion "always 1000 years from today" in order to give new readers a frame of reference, but it was always one of those things that I found interesting.

ooh you're right, my bad. RJ Brande was the one in Secret Files 2! thanks for the correction


ugh. that one was just... Mon's constant hissy fits were something I would expect from a teen or younger... and then, wait, he has all these kids????????? made zero sense

You know, based on the birthday list, it would be kinda cool to have the Legionnaire birthdays listed with the LW Member birthdays on the main page.

Not sure how doable that is, but its a neat idea.