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Just thought I would add a new topic.
How many of you are reading this series?
I am not going to spoil anything but I have just read issue #5 and have been totally blown away. I mean the whole series has been fantastic.

This issue also blended very well with the tie in to Firestorm # 6.

Any thoughts?

WARNING - BIG, BIG, BIG, SPOILERS TO FOLLOW!!!

This was the first time in a long time that I could not wait to make the 1/2 hour trip home from the CBS to read the comic. I had to pull into a parking lot to read the issue. Last time I did that was for Legion Lost #12.

What an incredible comic!! For those of you who stopped reading because of the content of the first two issues, I understand, but you are missing out on some really good and intense writing!!

SPOILERS for those who aren't buying the comic ( and why aren't you?)

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The heroes are on the hunt for villains who might be involved with the murder of Sue and attack on Jean. In one fight, Green Lantern (Kyle) gets shot in the face, point-blank(!) by Deadshot. He lives, but apparently might have lost his eyesight. We never do see his face.

One group of hereos (Firestorm/Ronnie Raymond, Captain Marvel, Vixen, and Shining Knight) tracks down the Shadow Thief. The Thief manages to get a hold of the Knight's sword and uses it on Firestorm. The magical properties of the sword cause Firestorm to explode and probably die, although the Firestorm tie-in indictes that Ronnie might still be alive in the new Firestorm.

The Atom and Jean Loring apparently get back together again. I'm not sure what to make of this subplot. Meltzer obviously doesn't put anything in without a reason. This is building to something important.

Captain Boomerang shows his new-found son how to throw boomerangs. In the course of the training, the son discovers that he has super-speed. Boomer is forced to confess that Golden Glider is really not his mother. I'm wondering if Captain Boomer isn't really the dad. Can't think of any female speedsters that would qualify as a pop. Maybe his real dad is a spedster. Next issue of Flash is supposed to be very telling.

Dr. mid-Nite and Mr. Terrific are still doing an autopsy on Sue. Not much progress apparently, but magic is ruled out.

Robin and his dad have a heart-to-heart about Tim's role as Robin. Jack Drake relents and allows Tim to go out on patrol with Batman. As Tim leaves, Jack discovers that a package with a note of warning and a gun are left behind, and it wasn't left by Tim. (I think the person in the shadows on the cell phone left the package. Cell phones have been playing a big part in this series haven't they?)

Just then, an intruder enters the Drake house. Mr. Drake is able to get ahold of Oracle on a cell phone who patches him through to Robin who's riding in the Bamobile with Batman. In an incredibly intense scene, father and son talk one last time as the intruder turns out to be...

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*man I hate to spoil this for anybody, this series is so good*

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...Captain Boomerang, who also insinuates that he was responsible for Sue's death! Batman and Robin are speeding home as fast as they can go. Jack Drake fires a round into Boomerang's chest just as Boomer fires a razorrang right into Jack's chest. The issue ends with both men lying in a pools of blood!


I know it sounds gory and depressing, but this was the most intense comic I have ever read. The conversations between Robin and his dad were done with such strong emotion. Most exciting single issue of any comic I have ever read since the days of Crisis!

Fast skip to miss the spoilers since I didn't get out to pick up my books today.

Not to take anything away from Stargazer but we already have one thread with this exact name for the series and one for each of the previous issues. So we have been discussing the books. The threads just tend to get pushed back a page or two in-between issues.

Simply put:

I really want my comics now.

RECON!

Personaly, i have a feeling that the killer will be

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...Jean Loring WITH Luthor backing her! AND i have a feeling Atom may stumble on to this fairly soon too.

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Captain Boomerang's newfound "son", who I'm guessing is actually Amazo in disguise (using J'onn Jonzz's shape-changing power).

My guess for the killer will be .... the mystery woman that bore Captain Boomerang's son!!

Anyway, I'm actually getting less excited about the series as it goes on. It seems to be more of the same to me and we don't seem to be getting much lately in terms of the developing mystery.

I'm also turned off by the way the heroes are acting. It reminds me of "Avengers Disassembled" in that we're seeing these heroes in a more "human" light, reacting the way people might genuinely react in these extreme circumstances, but it seems off to me because it seems to disregard that *they've all been through this and much worse in the past*. Yes, their loved ones are in danger, but not only has that happened before (gee, Lois Lane in danger?? No wonder Superman's freaked out), but their loved ones are in danger every time the world is threatened isn't it? Like with Avengers, I don't think we see enough of them acting like seasoned professionals. Instead we see them running around like chickens with their heads cut off, beating up random criminals to get information.

The Deadshot/GL face-off was cool though.

I liked the parallel father/son stories, but that "DAD!" moment seemed strange to me because there was no reason for Boomerang's kid to react that strongly to that message.

Seems to be the mystery villain left Jack the gun. There's no way Boomerang killed Dibney - kicking in the door doesn't fit the "he was never there" m.o. of the Dibney murder. That and of course we still have another couple issues to go.

I've considered Amazo as well...

But I don't think so, according to Metzler it would be someone appearing in the series. Amazo was only mentioned once, IIRC, and has never been seen.

My guess right now...


the Atom. I think that Jean is STILL in big trouble...

I actually felt more empathy for Captain Boomerang than I did for Tim's dad... probably because of the whole I-just-reconnected-with-my-son bit. I hope he pulls through...

People elsewhere are speculating that CB isn't Owen's dad, but even after Owen guesses that Golden Glider isn't his mom, CB still acts as though he's his son.

Is Jesse Quick too young to be the mom?

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Sorry about additional thread...I honestly did not go back far enough.
I will look for that thread to post..can this one be removed to stop any kind of confusion?

Truly sorry...really

i figured Boomerang's 'son' for the killer since he's the only new character in the series and sticks out as a story point (leading me to ask "why is he there?")

really Barry's (bitter & resentful) son after an affair with Golden Glider?

i've enjoyed a few of the brawls (terminator & the sattelite league, deadshot/gl), the development of a new, informal (and thus probably more effective) 'secret society of supervillains', and the Green Arrow narration (as Metzer really has Ollie's voice IMO), but most of identity crisis doesn't work for me

super hero comics - with all their primary colors - move fast
murder mysteries dangle and twist in the wind, looking different from every angle, shedding new light or shadows depending how you enter it

Identity Crisis, for me, hasn't been successful in making the genres effectively merge

as mysteries go - unmasking Sensor Girl and the murder of Mr. Terrific both rank higher for me

i had high hopes for identity crisis -- and so far, it hasn't quite reached them
at least i don't hate it (that would truly suck)

Danny Blaine:

Well, if I'm right that "Boomerang's son" is him in disguise, he has been seen.

I mean, a kid who suddenly, upon meeting Boomerang, picks up the fine art of boomerang-throwing, and out of nowhere displays super-speed? Someone who perfectly imitated Slipknot's M.O.?

And has a grudge against the JLA?

Whoa
i never even thought of that

or, pushing another point, it could be amazo reprogrammed by calculator or luthor or dr moon

Maybe it'll be revealed that the Atom is really a Manhunter in disguise...

Well, I hope it's not the Atom or Jean. I think their reconnecting and getting back together has been one of the most emotionally moving parts of this whole series. Besides, I love the Atom!

The son as Amazo is something I hadn't considered, but makes perfect sense. There are still too many open questions though now--maybe issue six with a focus on Bat's detective skills will shed some more light.

A very intense issue and very good. My only regret is if Ronnie Raymond is really dead, which would just plain suck for me. Still, like every issue of this series so far, there are parts that blow me away and parts that I'm not too crazy about.

I think the son as Amazo makes the most sense of any other theory I heard. We know the killer has used the powers/abilities of more than one hero/villain. We know the son has an outstanding skill with a boomerang and super-speed. If Boomerang even has a son, I'm betting Amazo has replaced him.

Very interesting theory...
I am still trying to figure out how the events happened in the latest issue. How did the Drakes get involved and where the heck is Jacks wife??

The Drakes, I'm guessing, are involved because the killer knows Robin's ID and this fits the motif of striking at the heroes' loved ones.

We may find out where Jack's wife was after the fact, or it may turn out they just forgot to include her.

I think the person behind it all may be the calculator. Each person that has lost someone or been attacked so far has something to do with the team that stopped calculator back in that Batman book from about 25 years ago.

Then again, if lois is attacked, I might be wrong, lol.

But, the best mysteries are usually those that have an inside man, someone close to the "leads" that is unsuspected.

It's...the revenge of Snapper Carr! (he can teleport now can't he?)

Snapper lost the teleportation power awhile back I believe. I'm not sure how/when that all happened, but I know it was gone by the time he started appearing in "Hourman".

I hope that there's another twist to this or I'm pissed off about who the killer really is.

Well, there is one more issue to go. So, who did they reveal to be the killer? I probably won't be able to get the issue since I haven't been able to afford my books this month.

I'm sticking with my Amazo theory - he has the power of that JLA member (I'm not going to be the one to spoil issue # 6) along with all the others.

SPOILER (DO NOT HIGHLIGHT THE TEXT IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO KNOW!):

The Atom!