Legion World Forums LEGION CLUBHOUSE The Legion of Super-Heroes Long Live the Legion! Waid's radical reimagining = a postboot 5-Year gap

Future history repeats itself.

are we going to get the nine panel format as well?

I like the idea of a "gap" or "leap" especially as it pertains to The Legion. What I didn't like was the execution of the story telling in the first "gap". I've said it before, but you know there's a problem with the story when the editor has to post summaries at the end of issues to let people know what happened in previous issues.

I think that we can all agree that Legion is unique given that it's setting is the distant future, and the very nature of that setting lends the series to revisioning (read "hiccups in time", you know... what happens in the present affects the future and the future is always mutable based on the choices of today, the old Terminator Timeline Philoshy) better than "today's" series.

It's pretty much a given that I'm going to buy whatever Legion they put out (sorry, but every person must have their vices, and let's face it, I'm weak and easy). So give me great stories and I'll be happy. While I understand that many fans "miss" their favorites, and I'm not faulting them for that, I'm just going to do my best to be optomistic about what the future brings us... even if it turns out to be the 9 panel grid.

I'd love to see the 9-panel grid format used some. No problems there at all for me.

That's right, but I had thought that with the introduction of hypertime we no longer had problems about maintaining consistency between the present and the future of the DC universe.

I guess I was too optimistic

Same here!

It's been a long time since I read the story that intro'd hypertime, and I never paid it much attention other than the nebulous gimmick it was to write stories that may or may not conform to continuity.

It could be argued that hypertime is nothing more than an infinite number of pocket universes. One contains Earth-1, another Earth-2, etc. So we still have the alternate universes they just don't call them that anymore. To me, that's effectively what hypertime did... It allowed any story to be written at any time without strict adherance to continuity. I guess I just don't see it the same way you do. If you want to enlighten me as to what you think hypertime is, I'd be more than happy to read it.

I'm still not sure what hypertaxis was... superevolution maybe?

I'd love to see the 9-panel grid return too.

And a few text-pages at the end of each issue would be cool.

A letter column complete with a "Bits'o Legionnaire business" section would be a welcome addition as well.

And it would be really really cool if Giffen and/or the Bierbaums returned to do a backup or two. Since Waid is such a big fan of the TMK era this seems possible.

I'd love to see any or all of that happen, Kid C!

Why are y'all ruining my weekend? At least my dreams at night, anyway *sigh*

The nine-panel format, when used to further get out a story or showcase various scenes or artwork definitely works for me. I don't know if I could handle every page, every month though! Maybe times have changed.

I actually miss a lot of the old text features at the end of the book! They sometimes tended to acknowledge past continuity and give more character insights than the main story! I positively loved SW6 Violet's diary entries and the various other journals and magazine articles we got to glimpse at.

Hey, we'll get 30 pages a month. It could happen!

Well, I don't think I am good enough for enlightning anyone, but here we go.

Hypertime is a sort of parallel earths where sometimes the flow of events may switch from one timeline to another one and then go back to the first or to a third one. This way inconsistencies can be handled as fluxes among timelines. So if we have two or more different futures for the DC universe (like "Kingdom Come" or "DC One Million", or again "Legion of Super-Heroes") these can be seen as hypertime subsets. Clearly, if abused this tool can be used to make sense of anything, and thus of nothing. However, in Hypertension (Superboy) some rules were given about hypertime and hypertime travels. Also, it may not be as irrelevant as you think for the legion. Busiek (he wrote to me about this) in the last issues of the valor series brought back the Earth one pre-crisis like superboy (see zero hour) and Kesel, in hypertension (2000), has shown us this superboy (with even krypto) alive and well in a pre-crisis like smallville. In the legion title itself, in 1998, we have seen several pocket universes (righting also legion continuity problems due to superman's "time and time again") where the clark kent superboy was alive. These could be interpreted as hypertime branches. Given also that hypertime was introduced in the DC cosmology by Waid himself among others, and given that waid has handled zero hour and valor together with busiek, I would not be surprised if Waid used hypertime to adjust the legion to his ideas of what it should be

We'll see what happens

I can live with a new 5-year gap vs. a complete reboot

Nine panels make me warm and giggly inside.

It's a valid comparison, Lash-man, though i don't think the end result will look anything like TMK.

I wasn't a fan of the nine-panel grid. Most of the time it seemed to cluttered.

I think a nice 5 to 6 panel layout is good especially if we are going to be paying for 30 pages of story and art!! Fallen Angel is $2.50 so I imagine it will be a $3.00 book!!

If DnA were writing, we'd probably get 18 splash pages per issue...

Me-OW!